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Buster Keaton
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 Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:45 am Post subject: What the Qu'ran REALLY says... |
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Surely the nice moderate muslims are kind humble religious believers who lead a good life! But what does their book really say?:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4tNw87A1f3Y&NR=1
I particularly like the scripture that says:
"Allah sometimes kills people for mis-behaving!"   |
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Buster Keaton
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:56 am Post subject: |
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or:
"Allah has prepared a fire for disbelievers. When they want a shower, Allah will give them a shower of molten lead to burn their faces."18.29
Nice! Hmmmmm, maybe I've 'taken it out of context'? Nope, it actually says this shit! |
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Buster Keaton
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:06 am Post subject: |
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or, my all time favourite:
"Disbelievers will wear a garment of fire, boiling fluid will be poured on their heads, their bellies and their skin will be melted, they will be tormented with iron hooks and when they try to escape,they will be driven back with the taunt: Taste the doom of burning."22:19-22.
How nice, what a good god Allah is? |
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maccy
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| dont want to piss on yer bonfire pal but have you ever read the old testament? |
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Asiya
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I can never understand why non-believers even care about the hereafter and the punishments for those times...if you don't believe...then why mention it? Surely it is ridiculous to talk about things and attach importance to them, its rather like saying 'santa claus' has a slave race of elves who do all the hard work all year whilst he collects the admiration of the masses for a nights work!'....
If you have no belief, then the argument is shallow |
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castlelgr
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Ploppy
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:26 am Post subject: |
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| Asiya wrote: | I can never understand why non-believers even care about the hereafter and the punishments for those times...if you don't believe...then why mention it? Surely it is ridiculous to talk about things and attach importance to them, its rather like saying 'santa claus' has a slave race of elves who do all the hard work all year whilst he collects the admiration of the masses for a nights work!'....
If you have no belief, then the argument is shallow |
I dont - as you well know! However, I do resent the comments that some people make on here that I am doomed, as a non-believer.
It comes over as patronising.
If I dont believe, yes, I dont care. But, people shouldnt lecture non-believers either. |
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Asiya
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Ploppy wrote: | | Asiya wrote: | I can never understand why non-believers even care about the hereafter and the punishments for those times...if you don't believe...then why mention it? Surely it is ridiculous to talk about things and attach importance to them, its rather like saying 'santa claus' has a slave race of elves who do all the hard work all year whilst he collects the admiration of the masses for a nights work!'....
If you have no belief, then the argument is shallow |
I dont - as you well know! However, I do resent the comments that some people make on here that I am doomed, as a non-believer.
It comes over as patronising.
If I dont believe, yes, I dont care. But, people shouldnt lecture non-believers either. |
Stating what is a belief of ours does explain our reasons for obeying the rules. You only think it patronising because you don't like it. Yet, something like that which clearly does not affect your life here and now offends you. However, the Muslim baiting/bashing goes on every single day, and hey, we should have no probs with that...  |
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Asiya
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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Ploppy
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Asiya wrote: | | Ploppy wrote: | | Asiya wrote: | I can never understand why non-believers even care about the hereafter and the punishments for those times...if you don't believe...then why mention it? Surely it is ridiculous to talk about things and attach importance to them, its rather like saying 'santa claus' has a slave race of elves who do all the hard work all year whilst he collects the admiration of the masses for a nights work!'....
If you have no belief, then the argument is shallow |
I dont - as you well know! However, I do resent the comments that some people make on here that I am doomed, as a non-believer.
It comes over as patronising.
If I dont believe, yes, I dont care. But, people shouldnt lecture non-believers either. |
Stating what is a belief of ours does explain our reasons for obeying the rules. You only think it patronising because you don't like it. Yet, something like that which clearly does not affect your life here and now offends you. However, the Muslim baiting/bashing goes on every single day, and hey, we should have no probs with that... |
I think you'll find that I will argue with anyone who posts an illogical post on here.
What I meant to try and express was posts like "all you non-believers are going to ... *insert suitable warning here*". only come over as pointless. If we are non-believers, we wont believe in what the comments are saying will happen to us "after". Thus, it makes the "threat" post pointless, does it not?
And, I feel that some of them come over as an attempt to be "I'm pure, because I believe". I dont for example post "You Religious people on here are wasting your life, as there will be nothing awaiting you after death". And if I did, I would expect some comment back from religious people about it.
It is not an issue about your religion, but people - if you think i'm going to hell "after", good for you. I personally dont think that at all.
And, I dont need exagerated posts which to me are more and more pointless, the more extreme they become.
Basically, I respect peoples right to believe in religion, and dont go posting after their posts about how its all rubbish, so i dont really need people posting about my "supposed" doom "after" death. |
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Pauline Hanson
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Buster Keaton wrote: | or, my all time favourite:
"Disbelievers will wear a garment of fire, boiling fluid will be poured on their heads, their bellies and their skin will be melted, they will be tormented with iron hooks and when they try to escape,they will be driven back with the taunt: Taste the doom of burning."22:19-22.
How nice, what a good god Allah is? |
Only when they learn how to light a fuckin BBQ properly. |
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politician
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i think this should b bumped to the top to show people what an evil book of shite that book really is come on mr hmmm come on mrs hhmmm defend the twatiness and evil in your precious fukt up book he has his wife as a slave and then they write all sorts of other shite  |
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Ploppy
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| politician wrote: | | i think this should b bumped to the top to show people what an evil book of shite that book really is come on mr hmmm come on mrs hhmmm defend the twatiness and evil in your precious fukt up book he has his wife as a slave and then they write all sorts of other shite |
Polly, it was written like 2000 years ago. Is the bible any better? |
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politician
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| why dont they fuckin renew it and update it then as it was just a few jealous male arseholes that wrote the shite to their own advantage anyway..personally id burn every one of em ban every fuckin one n write one called pollys book of rules |
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Ploppy
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| politician wrote: | | why dont they fuckin renew it and update it then as it was just a few jealous male arseholes that wrote the shite to their own advantage anyway..personally id burn every one of em ban every fuckin one n write one called pollys book of rules |
*shudder*
Polly, I dont think that it is wrong to follow a guide to good living - after all, it's not like people dont do this sort of thing naturally (or else, why would there be hobbies/clubs/diets/DIY books etc).
I think you should relax a little, as you are taking it all to heart. |
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politician
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do u really think so?do u honestly think i take anything said on this shithole to heart do u own a brain cell  |
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Ploppy
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| politician wrote: | | do u really think so?do u honestly think i take anything said on this shithole to heart do u own a brain cell |
i do actually.
seeing as how you clearly get worked up sometimes, and become more emotional, I would say, yes, i think you do. |
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politician
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| ok maybe thats what you think but i assure you ..it doesnt affect my way of life! |
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CrusaderUK
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| maccy wrote: | | dont want to piss on yer bonfire pal but have you ever read the old testament? |
Fuck muslims but wash them first and fuck the quran |
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Miss_Sashna
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| politician wrote: | | why dont they fuckin renew it and update it then as it was just a few jealous male arseholes that wrote the shite to their own advantage anyway..personally id burn every one of em ban every fuckin one n write one called pollys book of rules |
the Bible is updated...countless times....few taliored to their needs...still i dont see any good changes in chritanity...i.e adultry is on more then ever, abortions etc... |
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hmmmm_maybe
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Miss_Sashna wrote: | | the Bible is updated...countless times....few taliored to their needs...still i dont see any good changes in chritanity...i.e adultry is on more then ever, abortions etc... |
Is that true Christian Crusader? BTW are we talking crusader as in knights of old, spreading Christianity in foreign lands? |
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PatrickMcgoohan
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| hmmmm_maybe wrote: | | Miss_Sashna wrote: | | the Bible is updated...countless times....few taliored to their needs...still i dont see any good changes in chritanity...i.e adultry is on more then ever, abortions etc... |
Is that true Christian Crusader? BTW are we talking crusader as in knights of old, spreading Christianity in foreign lands? |
Here's the man asking innocent questions about the trinity and the crucifixion, pleading ignorance Taquiya Tactcs at their best....are you at war with us now? |
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hmmmm_maybe
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| PatrickMcgoohan wrote: | | Here's the man asking innocent questions about the trinity and the crucifixion, pleading ignorance Taquiya Tactcs at their best....are you at war with us now? |
What's to be at war about? Seems to be a battle just to get you guys to explain your beliefs. Would seem you have little faith in that which you claim to follow. That's often the way though, when the truth is presented. Can't accept it, so I know, lets 'try' and offend and belittle them. You've got 2 other flat mates and Crusader in his armour, and yet between yourselves, you have no answers to very simple questions. I've yet to even begin, to start asking the awkward ones!  |
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Miss_Sashna
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| Yes please am watiting...no offence or anything..or to feel that we are war..just want to know... |
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PatrickMcgoohan
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Oh grow up, you can't even answer your own fath without showing that the reason different men in different countries abuse their women with electrical wire is because Mohamhead said "Allah says:...BEAT THEM!" or why thighing is a contnual problem amongst your brethren deep into the 21st@ is becuase Mo molested a 9 yr old girl!
And YOU wanna debate Theology.......sort your own house out first!  |
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