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C_R
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 Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:01 pm Post subject: How Iran Deals With Its Criminal *Graphic! |
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Public hanging is the most common form of execution in Iran today. Granted, some crimes may warrant execution, some definitely do not.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2a0_1185106657
| Quote: | An Iranian woman who killed her husband and paid two men to murder three of her in-laws has been hanged along with her two accomplices at an execution watched by thousands of people, an Iranian newspaper reports.
The woman, identified only as Houriyeh, 29, and the two men, Farhad and Reza, were sentenced to death for the murders three months ago in north-western Iran, the Tehran-e Emrouz daily said.
The trio were hanged.
Hanging is the most common form of execution in Iran but women are rarely executed in public.
The newspaper published a picture of Houriyeh and the men hauled into the air by ropes attached to cranes.
Houriyeh was wearing a head-to-toe black chador.
The newspaper said the woman had strangled her husband while he slept.
The same night, her two male accomplices strangled her husband's parents and stabbed his brother to death, it said.
"She (Houriyeh) had serious problems with her husband and hated his family. She hired Farhad and Reza to kill her brother-in-law and his parents," an unnamed judiciary official told the paper.
The case attracted great public interest and about 5,000 people, including judiciary and police officials, gathered to watch the hangings.
Murder, rape, adultery, armed robbery, apostasy and drug trafficking are all punishable by death under Iran's Islamic Sharia law, imposed since the 1979 Islamic revolution. |
I don't derive pleasure from watching a fellow human being die, no matter what they did to deserve it. But what strikes me is the chants of the crowd whilst the trio are about to be hanged. I think it's barbaric. I think it's deplorable. Let's look at one of the crimes that is in bold in the above quote. Apostasy, for instance.
| Quote: | | Apostasy (from Greek αποστασία, meaning a defection or revolt, from απο, apo, "away, apart", στασις, stasis, "standing") is a term generally employed to describe the formal renunciation of one's religion, especially if the motive is deemed unworthy. In a technical sense, as used sometimes by sociologists without the pejorative connotations of the word, the term refers to renunciation and criticism of, or opposition to one's former religion. One who commits apostasy is an apostate, or one who apostatises. Apostasy is generally not a self-definition: very few former believers call themselves apostates and they generally consider this term to be a pejorative. One of the possible reasons for this renunciation is loss of faith, another is the failure of alleged religious indoctrination or brainwashing. |
Is this the work of a modern civilisation or a throw back to the dark ages where renunciation of one's religion means that you will face certain death? Man! What ever happened to the freedom of choice? And the right to freedom of speech? You risk being killed just for waking up and realising that religion is ultimately a form of brainwashing, a form of mind control?
Is this the religion of peace? |
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Asiya
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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I couldn't watch the footage. I think that sometimes people behave and react to horror in a 'self protective' way...so become like 'actors' doing their best to fit in. That is a real climate of fear. Mr hmmm can give insighte InshAllah about the truth about Apostacy, but men twist stuff to suit selves. Everyone has a take, but even the Jewish community in Iran refused to leave, they are happy it is their home!
I can't get into the mind of someone who can kill. I don't get it. 
(still as someone assured me today, it will no doubt one day 'get me killed') |
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englishman
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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apostacy - what a frigging joke
how can anyone be an apostate ie renounce religion
when the said religion is utterly farcical
its just a tool for the religious dictators to impose their will through terror |
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hmmmm_maybe
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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I covered Apostasy here..
http://forums.gumtree.com/viewtopic.php?t=100377
[2:256] There is no compulsion in religion. The right direction is henceforth distinct from error. And he who rejecteth false deities and believeth in Allah hath grasped a firm handhold which will never break. Allah is Hearer, Knower.
[2:217] And, whosoever turns from his religion, and dies disbelieving - their works have failed in this world and the next; those are the inhabitants of the Fire; therein they shall dwell forever.
As long as apostasy remains a private matter and does not disrupt the society at large, there is no particular punishment in the Qur’an. However, when it violates sanctity and impinges on the rights of Muslims to practice their belief, then it is treated as a physical aggression towards the faith. At that point it is no mere apostasy. It then becomes an act threatening the unity of the Islamic community and punishable by the severest penalties, framed as self-defense against a violent rebellion against God and the Prophet. |
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Stinkus Poofinger
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Asiya wrote: | | I think that sometimes people behave and react to horror in a 'self protective' way...so become like 'actors' doing their best to fit in. |
Then I suggest you should watch the footage. It isn't an image that Iran should be projecting to the rest of the world as public executions are the tool's of a backward society. It's reminiscent of the Taleban executing a woman for adultery on a grassy football pitch in Kabul. And as in Iran, women are also hanged for adultery.
Savages. |
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ammie
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It does seem very backward, im actually all for the death penalty for certain crimes but not public ones..i wouldnt want to be there,but then you have the whole issue of innocent people being found guilty ect..
So there are two kinds of muslims then? one living in times gone by and one living in the year 2007- thats the conclusion i keep coming to with muslims. |
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Asiya
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I have no intention of watching the hanging of anyone thank you! Its enough that it goes on and froma crane....
The trouble with the people who do these things is the fact that it is oppressive to women. But typical males....they are excused their behaviour...regardless! Though of course this time 2 men were hung also...down to being killrs of men I guess.
But barbaric is the behaviour of many people not just muslims. And I seriously doubt that the population can speak out. What do you think? |
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Stinkus Poofinger
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Asiya wrote: | I have no intention of watching the hanging of anyone thank you! Its enough that it goes on and froma crane....
The trouble with the people who do these things is the fact that it is oppressive to women. But typical males....they are excused their behaviour...regardless! Though of course this time 2 men were hung also...down to being killrs of men I guess.
But barbaric is the behaviour of many people not just muslims. And I seriously doubt that the population can speak out. What do you think? |
Then why do the Islamic courts in Iran sanction the hanging of two 15 year old teenage lovers that so happen to be boys? That kind of punishment is unknown in western civilization and although the behavior of the children will be looked on as abhorrent in certain walks of life, it certainly doesn't warrant their ultimate execution, and in public. Let's face it. Islamic law restricts the rights of the individual and totally deprives the individual of any form of free thinking. It stifles intellect and casts aspersions on anyone that thinks otherwise. |
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BigFatLiar
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Tough shit. That's their criminal justice system. If you don't want to hang in Iran, don't rape, murder or sell dope. Simple as that.
Anyone Iranian who has a desperate need to rape or murder is better off committing the crime here in civilized Britain where he probably won't be found guilty and even if convicted he can look forward to a life of leisure with SkyTV in her majesty's prison. |
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Stinkus Poofinger
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| BigFatLiar wrote: | Tough shit. That's their criminal justice system. If you don't want to hang in Iran, don't rape, murder or sell dope. Simple as that.
Anyone Iranian who has a desperate need to rape or murder is better off committing the crime here in civilized Britain where he probably won't be found guilty and even if convicted he can look forward to a life of leisure with SkyTV in her majesty's prison. |
The ten commandments need amending. For the whole of humanity. |
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BigFatLiar
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| Stinkus Poofinger wrote: | | BigFatLiar wrote: | Tough shit. That's their criminal justice system. If you don't want to hang in Iran, don't rape, murder or sell dope. Simple as that.
Anyone Iranian who has a desperate need to rape or murder is better off committing the crime here in civilized Britain where he probably won't be found guilty and even if convicted he can look forward to a life of leisure with SkyTV in her majesty's prison. |
The ten commandments need amending. For the whole of humanity. |
Which bits would you change?
Thou must commit adultery when you feel like! |
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Stinkus Poofinger
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| BigFatLiar wrote: | | Stinkus Poofinger wrote: | | BigFatLiar wrote: | Tough shit. That's their criminal justice system. If you don't want to hang in Iran, don't rape, murder or sell dope. Simple as that.
Anyone Iranian who has a desperate need to rape or murder is better off committing the crime here in civilized Britain where he probably won't be found guilty and even if convicted he can look forward to a life of leisure with SkyTV in her majesty's prison. |
The ten commandments need amending. For the whole of humanity. |
Which bits would you change?
Thou must commit adultery when you feel like! |
I'm not God. But he did command Moses that 'Thou shalt not kill.' |
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