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ammie
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 Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:46 pm Post subject: Do muslim men have to have beards ? |
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yes or no and if yes why will do.  Please dont tell me that god said they have to..  |
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hmmmm_maybe
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Ploppy
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| you forgot "god says so" |
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ammie
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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So they have to?
Why?
Becuase god said so ....omg |
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Asiya
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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It is the equivalent of 'hijab'
And yes, it is a directive from Allah. But the moustache can be almost completely removed... |
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LittleMinX
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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all muslim men are to have beards? I've met quite a few Egyptian men here who are clean shaven. |
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ammie
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Asiya wrote: | It is the equivalent of 'hijab'
And yes, it is a directive from Allah. But the moustache can be almost completely removed... |
 So it is to stop us lusting over them... works for moi..  |
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hmmmm_maybe
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| LittleMinX wrote: |
all muslim men are to have beards? I've met quite a few Egyptian men here who are clean shaven. |
Me too, not everyone who's a muslim, chooses to follow the teachings of the prophet pbuh. You only have to look at the fantatics who've hijacked Islam for that. |
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Asiya
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| not all muslim men have a beard, not all muslim women wear hijab...it is partially in modesty though. |
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LittleMinX
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| hmmmm_maybe wrote: | | LittleMinX wrote: |
all muslim men are to have beards? I've met quite a few Egyptian men here who are clean shaven. |
Me too, not everyone who's a muslim, chooses to follow the teachings of the prophet pbuh. You only have to look at the fantatics who've hijacked Islam for that. |
in all other respects they appear to follow the teachings (although my knowlege of them is nil so I cant be certain). |
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ammie
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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So this brings me right back to my other thread then.
God so needs to send a message and tell you guys which rules are real and which are fake.
You cant all say yea i am a muslim but i only pick this part..or that part surely? |
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LittleMinX
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| ammie wrote: | So this brings me right back to my other thread then.
God so needs to send a message and tell you guys which rules are real and which are fake.
You cant all say yea i am a muslim but i only pick this part..or that part surely? |
in fairness, thats what most christians do...they are selective on what they practice and what they prefer to ignore or deny etc. |
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Ploppy
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| ammie wrote: | So this brings me right back to my other thread then.
God so needs to send a message and tell you guys which rules are real and which are fake.
You cant all say yea i am a muslim but i only pick this part..or that part surely? |
It seems that way, doesnt it?
Am I the only one that feels that "this bit" os "Fact", but "that bit" is for "interpritation".
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Ploppy
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| LittleMinX wrote: | | ammie wrote: | So this brings me right back to my other thread then.
God so needs to send a message and tell you guys which rules are real and which are fake.
You cant all say yea i am a muslim but i only pick this part..or that part surely? |
in fairness, thats what most christians do...they are selective on what they practice and what they prefer to ignore or deny etc. |
true.
but i'm not a chrisitian.
and i dont come on here telling people that they should be. |
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LittleMinX
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Ploppy wrote: | | LittleMinX wrote: | | ammie wrote: | So this brings me right back to my other thread then.
God so needs to send a message and tell you guys which rules are real and which are fake.
You cant all say yea i am a muslim but i only pick this part..or that part surely? |
in fairness, thats what most christians do...they are selective on what they practice and what they prefer to ignore or deny etc. |
true.
but i'm not a chrisitian.
and i dont come on here telling people that they should be. |
who tells you that you should be muslim? |
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Ploppy
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| LittleMinX wrote: | | Ploppy wrote: | | LittleMinX wrote: | | ammie wrote: | So this brings me right back to my other thread then.
God so needs to send a message and tell you guys which rules are real and which are fake.
You cant all say yea i am a muslim but i only pick this part..or that part surely? |
in fairness, thats what most christians do...they are selective on what they practice and what they prefer to ignore or deny etc. |
true.
but i'm not a chrisitian.
and i dont come on here telling people that they should be. |
who tells you that you should be muslim? |
"revert", the whole "don't worry - you'll be judged when you die" style of posting. |
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LittleMinX
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Ploppy wrote: | | LittleMinX wrote: | | Ploppy wrote: | | LittleMinX wrote: | | ammie wrote: | So this brings me right back to my other thread then.
God so needs to send a message and tell you guys which rules are real and which are fake.
You cant all say yea i am a muslim but i only pick this part..or that part surely? |
in fairness, thats what most christians do...they are selective on what they practice and what they prefer to ignore or deny etc. |
true.
but i'm not a chrisitian.
and i dont come on here telling people that they should be. |
who tells you that you should be muslim? |
"revert", the whole "don't worry - you'll be judged when you die" style of posting. |
whoa...really? who posts like that?  |
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Ploppy
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| I dont mean to be rude, but apart from As and Hm, it's a pretty common theme of Islamic postings. |
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ammie
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| LittleMinX wrote: | | ammie wrote: | So this brings me right back to my other thread then.
God so needs to send a message and tell you guys which rules are real and which are fake.
You cant all say yea i am a muslim but i only pick this part..or that part surely? |
in fairness, thats what most christians do...they are selective on what they practice and what they prefer to ignore or deny etc. |
Thats true- thats what i mean though all these different religions, all the non beleivers ..god has to set the record straight..or maybe he cant becuase he doesnt exist to do so.  |
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KillerK
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:21 am Post subject: Re: Do muslim men have to have beards ? |
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| ammie wrote: | | yes or no and if yes why will do. Please dont tell me that god said they have to.. |
NO
It is from the sunnah as in the prophet had one, and so we follow the prophet mohammed pbuh as an example.
As far as i know, it is not an obligation as such, but pls correct me if i am wrong.
Bare in mind, that at the times o f the prophet, mot men ahd beards and long hair, it was the trend of the time.
Plus, it was a mans world then, and it was seen as manly. |
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Ploppy
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:23 am Post subject: |
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the sunnah being one of the admendums of the day? not the quran, but an "extra"?
is this one of the "authentic" ones, or one of the "questionable" ones? |
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KillerK
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| Ploppy wrote: | the sunnah being one of the admendums of the day? not the quran, but an "extra"?
is this one of the "authentic" ones, or one of the "questionable" ones? |
It is IMO, simpl,y that we follow the prophets example, that is it.
He ahd a beard,s oit is seen as good for us to
Period. |
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Ploppy
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:26 am Post subject: |
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| KillerK wrote: | | Ploppy wrote: | the sunnah being one of the admendums of the day? not the quran, but an "extra"?
is this one of the "authentic" ones, or one of the "questionable" ones? |
It is IMO, simpl,y that we follow the prophets example, that is it.
He ahd a beard,s oit is seen as good for us to
Period. |
can i play devils advocate? |
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KillerK
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:28 am Post subject: |
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| Ploppy wrote: | | KillerK wrote: | | Ploppy wrote: | the sunnah being one of the admendums of the day? not the quran, but an "extra"?
is this one of the "authentic" ones, or one of the "questionable" ones? |
It is IMO, simpl,y that we follow the prophets example, that is it.
He ahd a beard,s oit is seen as good for us to
Period. |
can i play devils advocate? |
if you must. |
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Ploppy
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:30 am Post subject: |
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hehe.
you can so no, if you like. |
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