Water instead of Fuel? Is this for real?

the beak · Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject:

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:27 pm Post subject: Water instead of Fuel? Is this for real? Reply with quote
It seems to good to be true?

Its basicly saying you can do this to your car then put water in instead of Fuel

Advice of whether I should buy this or not, I think it is legit but it seems to good to be true to put it one way, Advice?

Water Car
this one is a bad joke it couldnt work with that setup as the water would boil
and only produce mostly steam and work on the old idea of water vapour injection.

silverpersian888 · Joined: 25 May 2008 Posts: 20

have a look on ebay they are selling stuff like that to convert your car or bike to run on water the person selling has positive feed back and people that have brought from him have all siad that it works and it is also ment to make your car or bike faster .
i don t think that it is a scam. Smile

montyzuma · Community Moderator Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 2233

yes i would believe that. nothing dodgy ever happens on ebay.
so it must be trooo

gis a auction no. so i can have a look

let me guess they are kits

had a look some are books some are kits some are the wee glass bottles, beats me why we all dont have them. I wonder why.......

MichaelMcCord · Joined: 23 Jun 2008 Posts: 1 Location: Liphook, Hampshire.

This is real. They are not saying you use water instead of fuel, you use water, split into Hydrogen and Oxygen, as a fuel supplement. This is not new, the knowledge has been around for many years. This design is a simple, effective design that can be copied by almost anyone and for a very low cost. Try doing a search for "HHO" or "Browns Gas" and read the results.

montyzuma · Community Moderator Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 2233

it's real in as much as you can buy kits, but
Oxyhydrogen ( brown's gas) is often mentioned in conjunction with devices that claim to increase automotive engine efficiency.

Many of these claims, prima facie, violate the Law of conservation of energy. See Conservation of energy and Electrolysis of water:Efficiency. To date, none of these claims have been proven, and most have been fraudulent.

which is why we are not all running about with a wee browns gas generator under the bonnet

the beak · Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:55 am Post subject:

montyzuma · Community Moderator Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 2233

yahoo lets hope it goes better than steorn

i wonder when they are going to start production

the beak · Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:24 pm Post subject:

montyzuma · Community Moderator Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 2233

yep, i wonder what the energy density of H2 is against propane,
ie what kind of a range you would get.
theres already a network of garages doing propane for cars up and down the country it wouldnt be hard to follow it up with H2.

i briefly had a duel fuel car you started it on petrol and after 30 sec could switch it over to propane. looked a great system unfortunately i didnt get the chance to try it out for long.

the beak · Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject:

montyzuma · Community Moderator Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 2233

dunno, it had a professionally done gas conversion, and the story was you had to start it on petrol, after 30 secs you could flip the switch to change over to gas. I didnt get the chance to drive it much as i bought it from a guy at work , i needed an mot immediately and the mot station managed to drop it off the ramp from 5 ft which, not surprisingly wrote it off.
gas as standard in these things went in a toroidal tank where the spare had been.

montyzuma · Community Moderator Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 2233

ooh from todays bbc slightly off topic

Solar dyes give a guiding light
By Matt McGrath
BBC science correspondent

Current solar plants need large mobile mirrors to produce energy
A new way capturing the energy from the Sun could increase the power generated by solar panels tenfold, a team of American scientists has shown.

The new technique involves coating glass with a specific mixture of transparent dyes which redirect light to photovoltaic cells in the frame.

The technology, outlined in the journal Science, could be used to convert glass buildings into vast energy plants.

The technology could be in production within three years, the team said.

lillyvalleys · Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 20

the beak

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lillyvalleys · Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 20

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the beak · Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:44 pm Post subject:

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montyzuma · Community Moderator Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 2233

FOUND SOME INTERESTING STUFF ON BROWNS GAS
http://www.phact.org/e/bgas.htm

AND A GUY CALLED DENNIS LEE WHO HAS BEEN OFFERING FREE ENERGY DEVICES FOR 30 YEARS
http://www.phact.org/e/dennis.html

the beak · Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject:

browns gas is shite,the correct splitting of water into its different parts is another ball game.

lillyvalleys · Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 20