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Hartmann
Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:05 am Post subject: Katy (!) 14 Bloomsbury Way - Western Union FRAUD |
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Katherine000@yahoo.com and suzzy_janet@yahoo.com are fraud email addresses!!!
Katy, first email address, just cost me £850 via WESTERN UNION!!!, money even sent to my own name. She/He sent the picture PDF of the passport of a girl, Katherine Chester and a heartbreaking story being busy in Manchester, not being able to travel to prime London flat location!!
Address advertised for flat: 14 Bloomsbury Way (which does not exist, but as mentioned by receptionist of hotel in the street, people keep asking him for this address(!).... !!! Take care guys! Save the cash! |
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Quinn.H
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 8
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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This bitch e-mail me too, but wasn't going to give any money. I called her out as a scam.
Sorry, mate! |
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the_tidy_kiwi Gumtree Moderator
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 500
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry to hear about this.
I will make sure that they can not contact others.
PLEASE guys, never pay any money until you can view the property. Someone renting their flat should not have to take a security deposit off you. There are plenty of people on Gumtree looking for flats, so they should have a great response anyway.
Read our 'Stay Safe' for more tips. |
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Chase_The_Sun_Supersonic
Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Posts: 2
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: This bitch is going round fast!!! |
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Hey there people!
yeah ... i have just been contact by this Katy Chester whoever this person is... basically telling me that a place in Camden town is going for 550 deposit and that 400 pounds rent per month ....WARNING this persons english is horrible, yes they say this heartbreaking story of how she is working in Manchester and doesn't have the time to come down ....
she has even sent me a Tenancy agreement and her passport scan!!! f*** i can't belive i was so stupid to trust her (i sent my passport scan as well!!! shit!!!)
look people watch for this person .... biggest fraud i have come across
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Syntax
Joined: 11 Jan 2008 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:57 am Post subject: |
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I got an email from Katherine Chester too a while ago. It seemed too good to be true and I was put off by just how bad her English was (considering how English her name sounded), so never even bothered replying. I guess this is the line that gets most people
'i can reserve the room for you for the period you want cos a lot of people have wasted my time on this issue and i really want to deal with people who are serious'
As a result I don't tend to bother placing room wanted adverts anymore, as everything that is on offer you can just seek out in the room offered section.
From: katherine chester (katherine000@live.com)
Sent: 02 January 2008 00:07:37
To:
Hello ,
Am Katy Chester ,23 years old. I thanks so much for the mail and interest i my room and sorry for getting back to you a little bit late,.i have been pretty busy in a conference at Manchester, i but i will be back in couple of weeks.
Am a facilitator and this has put a lot of load on my shoulders, however,the flat is located at (14 Bloomsbury Way, London , WC1A 2BA) with two bedroom flat, am renting the whole flat ,the flat will be available from January 2008, the rooms has a very bid bed that can sleep two people with a television connected to cable,a small refrigerator apart from a big freezer in the kitchen a private bathroom with toilet drawer, more also there is a washing machine in the flat as well.
However the apartment itself has the following for your benefit:a big living room fully furnished with a television connected to cable,internet facility available ,in all the two rooms if you have a laptop you can bring along and connect as well, the transport facilities are quite ok the area as there is a tube station close to the flat
Am sending to you some pictures hope you will love it?and i will send to you a rental agreement form to see what next to do,you may have to pay for a security deposit of 550 pounds and 400 pounds for one month rent in advance to show some seriousness that you really want this flat, and if you need a room you are welcome, so that i can reserve the room for you for the period you want cos a lot of people have wasted my time on this issue and i really want to deal with people who are serious and genuinely interested in the room, i hope you understand me?thanks once again for the interest in my room while waiting to read from you.
Happy New Year ,
Regards,
Katy Chester
Don't get caught out |
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Chase_The_Sun_Supersonic
Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Posts: 2
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Hey she/he is still interested in trying to fool me, she has sent this message saying that it is better for her to recive the funds before she comes down to london, EVEN after i have repeatedly told her that i am not signing this unless i see this thing physically
i have passed by this street (it is quite near uni), such a place does not exist .... i know i am dragging this on ...but was actually hoping for a shred of information that would give them away
anyway
people, i know this may look really stupid ...but this person is crafty ....
i am not suprised they managed to already fraud someone out of this, its imperetive that other people dont waste their precious time and money on idiots like these and procees with some legitimate home hunting.
heres the corresponding message:
Hi there,
Thanks for the reply and for your interest in my room , i hope to have you in my flat soon.
I was glad to know that you are okay with the rental agreement form , and your brother to accept the pictures and the documents.
I will be glad to have the signed rental agreement form from you as soon as you make the payment and this could be paid in cash , but for me to come down to London to meet you after the money arrive you will have to transfer the money from your brothers name to your own name as soon as the money arrive via western union money transfer , and you will have get back to me with the transfer code and all the necessary informations that you receive after the transfer. this will be my proof that my coming to London is Guarantee and as soon as i receive the details i will leave Manchester for London to meet you , and after we meet and signed the rental agreement form face to face you and i can then walk to the nearest western union office where you will cash the money and then pay me in person after the viewing and signing. i hope this is okay with me?
I will be glad if you can make the transfer early on Wednesday so that i can be in London by Wednesday evening and we both can meet either in the evening or on Thursday , i hope this is okay with you? get back to me on this phone number , it is my Fance number you can ask him any question concerning the room and me+447045756960. hoping to read from you soon.
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becjerami
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 14
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, this person is still about! Just contacted me this morning with the same story as detailed by others here, for 14 Bloomsbury Way. This is the 4th dodgy scammer who has contacted me, ad my ad has only been on here 1 week. It is also happening from oops.com. Everyone beware! These ads always follow the same tone. They are usually in central london, the price is around £400 a week and they always mention some kind of agreement form in the first email or two. For those of you outside London - you should know a room in central london is hugely expensive and if it is listed as less than £850 you should be wary. Even if it's over this price, make sure the person gives you all the details in the first email and offers a meeting time. If they take several emails to deliver all the details, or they tell you a lot about themselves personally, it is probably a scam. Make a note: these scammers usually don't place ads, they contact you directly from an ad you have placed. The English is usually really bad also. I have someone trying to sell me a room in Hatton Road, WC1, who claims to be doing a Masters degree and whose father was a lawyer (he died recently on a business trip to Australia from, get this, INFLUENZA, .....get out the violins!) and her English is so bad I'm surprised she even got into uni at all, let alone a Masters degree.
Another girl going by the name of Stefania Osella claimed to be a 23 year old Italian artist, again, whose father died recently, and she was living in his old flat. This girl claimed that her lawyer had demanded that she didn't show anyone the flat until they sent a Western Union transfer as security. She even invited me on MSN to 'chat' about it. Of course I refused to send any money and that was that.
I will list the email addresses and names and fake 'addresses' of all the scammers who have contacted me in the past week in my next entry to this forum. |
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becjerami
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 14
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:22 pm Post subject: new fraudster email address |
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I just wanted to add 'Katy's' new email address. Going by the name of Katy Sara Chester:
ches_sara23@live.com
Beware! |
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BlueLightning
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: Scammer's new Name: Brandy Kelly..email myroom4rent2008@yaho |
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Too many similarities to not be the same person...I got suspicious when the lady had such a quick answer about her odd payment preference. Thanks everyone for sharing and saving me any lost time/money:
Similarities: Bad English, not easily available, a facilitator, western union
Brandy Kelly - myroom4rent2008@yahoo.com
Thanks for getting back to me so well , and i will be happy to make arrangment of the viewing so that you can see what you want to rent with your Money
The apartment is close to central bus lines
As i have said earlier, i am presently very busy at the moment attending a seminar which i am one of the facillitator. But can still come around if we both agree on a perfect date and time to meet,I will like to request for the assurance that you are going to pay me, i mean an evidence that you have the money to pay at hand after when you have come arround to view the flat and you like it as well, Beause Have meet some people who told me that they will like to rent the appartment and i took permission to be absent from the seminar conference,but after when we met and seeing the Flat,they definitely fall in love with it but they dont have money to pay, i dont know how people are so unseriourss and take pleasure in wasting other peoples time,they will start pleading with me and telling me all their problems as regards finances and how they cannot pay until a certain period of time which of course will make me compassionate and i would be forced to help a fellow human being of accommodation at my own detriment.
I hope you can try to understand the way i feel about this issues, people have deceived me into giving them the flat for free ,and i will not fall for it again.
If you are very serious in renting this Flat. I will like you have a payment prove of the deposit fee and the first month payment via through Western union or Money Gram outlet near you, and you will send the Money to your own name or a friend of yours and when we meet for the viewing and you like the appartment we both we go to western union or money gram and get the money out.and after send the Money try and send the scanned receipt to me so that i can confirmed the money and we can know what time to meet on Friday
NOTE THAT: All i am asking for is a prove of payment so as to get to know that you are really serious about my flat and i need as a prove is SCAN THE REREFENCE OF THE RECEIPT to me, which you used from the western union or Money Gram outlet near you. (The western union charge will be giving back to you from the first month rent and also rememeber that the Deposit fee is refoundable.) watting for your reply
Regards
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enrico
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:44 pm Post subject: HE/SHE IS STILL ABOUT |
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I HAVE JUST BEEN CONTACTED BY THIS 2 BIT CRIMINAL BUT I KNEW IT WAS A CON B4 I READ THIS ON HERE. JUST TO LET U KNOW THEY are STILL OBVIOUSLY READING GUMTREE ADS AND NOW GO BY THE EMAIL ADDRESS OF: sara_23_ka@yahoo.com (probably have many more too and likely to be running this scam from somewhere in west africa).
Still not been asked to post money via western union but when i am asked to do so i shall give them a fake western union number and if more do that they will probably give up with this scam.
I think the people most likely to be conned by this scam are foreign students so I hope they are able to read this b4 departing with a lot of money.
BEWARE PEOPLE. |
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ShallWeDanceTonight?

Joined: 27 Aug 2007 Posts: 2396
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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Write to yahoo about the abuse of the email adress to: here
and include the original email, and your reasons for the complaint. |
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FunkyT Gumtree Moderator
Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 124
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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Dont forget guys n gals, please report anything suspicious to us here at Admin.
This can be done through the HELP section on teh Homepage, or via this link http://www.gumtree.com/help/stay_safe#item85 |
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lorene_faure
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:28 am Post subject: FRAUD |
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Hi,
i have as many of you have, been in touch with "katherine chester" and received the exact same message, saying that she is in Manchester...etc..Etc.
I have to warn you that she (or someone else) has now my passport photo and that i know for a fact that she is using my identity to rob people of their money!
My name is Lorene Faure and this person has created an email adress with my name: lorene_fa@yahoo.fr and is sending out my passport photo as a proof of her idendity.
This is a fraud, i am not renting any appartement, neither in London nor in Paris, so beware!
Please if you have any contact with this 'fake Lorene Faure' please let me know so that i can 're-file' a complaint!!!
ps: i have also been in touch with a Diana Johnson: FRAUD as well: email adress: dianasoul2@hotmail.com!!!!!! |
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yell1981
Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 8
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: Another 'stolen' passport... |
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| After reading the last post, I now realise that this is probably how the person who tried to scam me about 8 months ago got 'their' passport from. They sent me a copy of a passport in the name of 'Kerry Bullock,' so if anyone sent the same scammer a copy of their passport, just to let them know they are using it!! Also to be aware of that name... |
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HSL
Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Posts: 2
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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I have been in very long e-mail conversations with [b]Kerry Bullcok[/b] as well. She contacted me in an add I had on gumtree, and litteraly told me her whole life story in the first mail. Her mother died, and now her grandmother is also almost dead, why she has to stay with her in a hospital in Southampton. She also sent me a copy of her british passport, and a very simple tenancy agreement - WITH NO ADDRESS OF THE FLAT. She had this LOVELY 2 bedroom flat with garage in Chiswick for 600 pcm!!! BUT she wanted me to do a Western Unoin Transfer and sent her the MTCN number, so she could track the payment on the internet as proof of deposit! But she never gave any address, exept for a postcode, nor telephone number etc. As we refused to do the WU-transfer she actually went that far to send us a Bank Account number we could transfer the money to instead - which by unknown reasons was in the name of:
Nation Wide
Acoount Holder: Alexander Kauschitz
Account Type: Cashbuilder
Account Nummber: 50135955
SortCode: 071040
329 Green Street
Upton Park
E13 9AB
Branch prefix
0246
Please be aware of her! The email she has contacted me on is:
kerrysflat@yahoo.co.uk
Please also be aware of a Mathew Coleman, who claims to be in Birmingham, but have this wonderful 2 bed room with garage in Chelsea for only 250pw (add was on gumtree, but I did report it as scam)
colemanmathew@gmail.com
We have also been in contact with some people trying to rent out a 2 bed + garage in on Kenwyn Road in Clapham, telling stories about burgelies in ther flat, done by people viewing it, so now their lawyer has advised them to see proof for deposit by doing a western union transfer.
Davalos Schafler
gentledav@gmail.com
PLEASE NOTE that all of the above do not want to you to make a WU-transfer in their name, but they specify that the receiver should be a person you trust! BUT they still want either a scanned copy of the transfer or the MTCN number and receivers name. |
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queenandking
Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 2
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:31 am Post subject: SCAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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THERE ARE LOADS MORE THAN THE ONES YOU JUST MENTIONED...I HAVE BEEN WRITING WITH THEM JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY AS I AM QUITE ENTERTAINED BY THEIR STUPIDITY. HERE ARE FEW OF THE EXAMPLES:
simeontob@gmail.com;
Hello,i have a one bed room flat well furnished and couple with a Garden
> for rest furnished and have tv, washer, in the rear its located at London
> South West - London Victoria - SW1 2BB email me for more details and
> Pictures..
Hello
Thanks for the prompt reply yes the apartment is still available you
can come for viewing anytime as i am free to show you the property
anytime you want and more so i will need to know how serious you are
in renting the house cos i have been fooled alot by people who
pretended to be serious at first. I have waisted alot of money on
boarding train from London to come over here to show people the flat
but not for them to show up, so i have contacted my lawyer about this
and he said that i should get to know how serious you are and if you
have the funds for the security deposit and if you have it then he
will be needing an evidence from you to show it.My asking Price is
£700pcm and the security Deposit is £750 which would be refundable
after Rent if no Damages is Caused to the Property.When is your best
time for Viewing and please do make sure you very serious in renting
the Apartment
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jean_boutier@yahoo.com HE SENT US ENERGY BILLS PASSPORT SCANS VARIOUS PICTURES OF THE FLAT THAT LOOKED LIKE THEY HAD BEEN COPIED FROM ANOTHER PAGE, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN HAD A LAWYER INVOLVED, WITH A NUMBER PRETENDING TO BE ENGLISH BUT WAS A DIVERTED NUMBER TO A FOREIGN NUMBER, EMAIL SIGNATURE CHANGED ALONG THE WAY(WAS FIRST JIMMYBONESLBC2003@YAHOO.COM)) AND A PASSPORT WAS ATTACHED, ON THE PASSPORT WAS A PICTURE OF A MALE WITH GREY HAIR BUT WITH A D.O.B SAYING 29 FEBRUARY 1985, SO A 22 YEAR OLD MALE WITH GREY HAIR, THIS IS PROBABLY SOME ONE ELSE PASSPORT WHO HAS PREVIOUSLY SCANNED THEIR PASSPORT INFORMATION AND EMAILED IT TO THEM, SO THEY HAVE FORGED IT AND ARE NOW SENDING IT ON TO OTHERS. PLEASE PAY ATTENTION WHEN YOU GET THIS SORT OF INFORMATION.
i want you to get this straight..i have had a lot bad experience about this that i will leave cambridge for london to show people apartment but eventually i will end up wasting my time cos they are not capable of renting the flat. i dont know why people do joke with things like this. first..i will have to leave my work for that as you know that am gonna loose alot at work. beside my salary is calculated on number of hours spend at work. you can see am gonna leave certainity for uncertainity. just for me to be sure that you are capable of renting the place...so far you are coming with your girl...this is what you will do..get the first month rent plus security deposit sent to you girl via western union.i mean using your girl as the receiver of the payment..A receipt will be issued to you at the western union and there are some information on the receipt which you will have to provide to your girl before she can retrieve the money at western union.
The thing is that,as soon as you make the transfer,you will have to scan the receipt and have it sent to me.This will be as proof for me and also i will call western union to confirm if you truly made the payment and i will provide them with the information on the receipt such as senders name,receivers name,MTCN and amount sent before they can confirm for me that you truly made the payment....As soon as i confirm that the payment is there...then i will leave cambrigde for london to show you the apartment. after veiwing the apartment if you are okay with what you see then you ur girl will both go to western union to cash the money and get it hand over to me.then i believe you can sign all neccessary paper and i will also give you the keys and issue a receipt for the payment..i have attached the energy bill of the apt
jean
------------THE THIRD ONE -----JUST TOOOO GOOD TO BE TRUE!!!
mrs.jachouston@hotmail.co.uk
Goodday,i have a One bedroom flat located Cromwell Road London SW7 5BT.It has a large living room and kitchen coupled with a garden for rest in the rear.The flat is offered furnished. Please email if you are Interested for more Details and Pictures.
Thanks.
--------------------THE FOURTH ONE----- FUNNY HOW THEY ARE ALL ON YAHOO!!!
erikflat4rent@yahoo.com
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researchglobe256@yahoo.co.uk - THEY ALWAYS SEND LENGTHY MAILS OR TRY AND BE REALLY FRIENDLY WITH YOU - SHE SENT SEVERAL PICTURES AND ONE WITH HERSELF ON IT ASWELL, WHICH ALREADY YOU SHOULD WONDER WHY WOULD ANY PROFESSIONAL PERSON DO THAT ITS REGARDING A FLAT NOT THE NEXT TOP MODEL..HAHA.....ALSO THE PICTURES ATTACHED WASN'T MATCHING THERE WAS PICTURES OF TWO DIFFERENT KITCHENS, IN WHICH HER EXPLANATION WAS(FURTHER DOWN THE PAGE)
Really appreciate your words in assuring to pay me if you like the Flat.I understand you quite okay.However,i do not want to stand on peoples promise of paying me cash or cheque when we meet again because i have met with time wasters.
I was discussing with my colleague about the idea on how i will be so sure that i will not be coming down to London on a futile exercise and she advised that we can work out something via Western Union Transfer.
She made me to understand that she has used it a couple of times for renting out her flat if she is not around .She said that western union can actually hold the money as an evidence and surety that her tenant will pay her at least for the first month and deposit.She explained that you can visit any Western union outlet and transfer the money IN YOUR FIANCEE NAME as the SENDER and RECEIVER will be in YOUR NAME.-You will use his/her name as the SENDER and AFTER viewing and you are okay with the flat/room,we both can go back to withdraw your money from western union close to my flat as she said she has done transactions this way before.
I do not want you to have the feeling that i am asking for money BEFORE you see what you are renting because i know that payment is meant to be done AFTER you have seen the Flat and okay with it.-The reason why you have to be receiver is basically to give you the confidence that your money is still in your name and to make sure that your money is still safe since it is still in you name as the receiver as you are the only one who can collect it with a valid ID,maybe with a passport or drivers license.
So in order for me to also be on a good side,you can go ahead and make the transfer since you have the money ready,let me know immediately you do the transfer so that i can know how to squeeze out time to come and meet you.But i will have to rely on your honesty and truth that you have actually make the payment before i leave here to come down to London to see you.What evidence will you give me so that I can be sure that you have made the payment? I was made to understand that you can SCAN THE RECEIPT to me to see.
I was also made to understand that western union takes some charges for the transfer and i am telling you that i will return back to you the full transfer charges whether you decide to rent the flat or not when we meet,ok?After doing the transfer,then i will have to leave here and be with you in London to meet you immediately.
Please,understand that i am NOT asking you to pay me BEFORE you view the flat as payment is done AFTER viewing.
I only want to be sure that i am not going to waste my time this time around and i think that with this condition,both of us can be sure we are not wasting our times.Let me know if you are okay with this so that we can proceed.Thanks so much while i will be waiting to read from you and i am looking forward to meet you and be great friends eventually.
I will get the contract ready for you to sign if you like to take the flat after viewing and the keys will be handed over to you immediately after contract.
PS:I am sorry for the lengthy mail.I only want to explain myself better
Clara
--EXPLANATION OF KITCHEN PICTURES - HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE...WHAT 1 BEDROOM HOUSE HAS TWO KITCHENS:o ..YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN BY ENTERTAINING:)
Yes there is a Small kitchen close to the livingroom basically meant for the dinning area and the other is the full kitchen seperate and thats why i told you that its a very Large Flat.
THESE ARE GENUINE LANDLORDS:
Hi,
My name is Nathaniel and I'm currently living in a self-contained studio flat in Willesden Green/Cricklewood. I'm moving to a new flat this weekend and I'm trying to find someone who would like to move into my current one. My gumtree add for this flat is as follows:
- Mezzanine double bed with drawers.
- Ground floor with single bed (optional)
- Double sofa and TV
- Kitchen area all cookery and appliances included.
- Separate bathroom
- Lots of storage space
- Washing and drying facilities
- Free internet
- Flexibility with tenancy agreement in terms of short term/mid term/long stay.
- Very close to both Cricklewood high road bus stops within 2 min walk
-10 min walk to Willesden Green and Kilburn tube stations providing great transport to the city center via the Jubilee Line
Would suit a couple or sharers. Please note this is a mezzanine studio apartment not a one bedroom flat.
£180pw
All bills included in price, except electricity top up meter.
Please contact Nathaniel for immediate viewing or further details.
nathaniel.seekins@gmail.com, +44 (0)79 7285 2108
Available Sat. 16 Feb. 2008
Please let me know if you would be interested in a viewing. It's a really nice flat which my girlfriend and I have been renting but my daily commute over to Stratford has proven to be way too long so we're moving over there.
Thanks,
Nathaniel Seekins
Hi
I have a lovely one double bedroom flat with garden,in Harrow (Kenton),less than 5min walk from Kenton Station(Bakerloo line),and ten minutes to Northwick park station((Metro line),about 30mins to central London.
Its newly decorated,nice Kitchen/diner,etc.
Rent is £690pcm excl of bills.If interested e-mail me.
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elxenon
Joined: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 1
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I have been fooled as well, 700 aussie dollars , for flat deposit... happened in januari, I was desperate as i had to accommodation in Sydney ....
Is there any way to get back my lovely cash? crying student....
Could have paid one month's rent in the place where i am living now... fuck |
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the_tidy_kiwi Gumtree Moderator
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 500
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| elxenon wrote: | I have been fooled as well, 700 aussie dollars , for flat deposit... happened in januari, I was desperate as i had to accommodation in Sydney ....
Is there any way to get back my lovely cash? crying student....
Could have paid one month's rent in the place where i am living now... fuck |
Hi elxenon,
Really sorry to hear about your experience. Please report it to us if you have not already via the 'Stay Safe' pages below. |
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nosferatt
Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 1
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Hi
I just recently came across the same situation. And only after reading others peoples posts in this forum I was confident that I was close to be fooled by great flat offer. they advertised the flats on gumtree and I contacted them first to get more details and arrange a viewing.
the new names you better watch out for are:
coleman.rose1@googlemail.com
and
Mrs.Tagliavini Mascha (godownshomes@hotmail.com).
check their mails, its the same scheme - even soeme senteces are the same:
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Thanks for your prompt reply are interest in the flat,Sure i'll would love to invite
you for the viewing but due to some recent inconveniences caused by those wanna be tenant, my lawyer and the landlord and landladies association of West India Quay(E14 4AF) has stated to me that, i should always know my wanna be tenant capability first before even inviting him /her for a viewing,so i'll implore you to try and show me that you are capable by ,paying the deposit and the rent due, with your name as sender and your same name as receiver or if you wanna use your relatives name as receiver,suit your self,all i wanted from you is the payment details or the scanned copy receipt given to your after the transfer ,so that i can show it to the association or my lawyer instead,that you have paid the deposit and a month rent through western union and i'll ring you up for the viewing,and tell you to meet me up at the West India Quay tube station,then after viewing you can go pick up your money and give it to me in cash by hand.i would be responsible for the transfer charges western union will be charging you for the transfer,so you can always be honest to state to me in your mail when sending me the transfer payment details the exact amount you used for the transfer so i'll give you that immediately you come into the flst for the viewing .then after viewing you can go pick up the transferred money for me in cash,i really wanted you to be on the most safer side ,so that no one can have the access to your money ,that was why i don't want you to use my information to make the transfer ,because you will still be the one to pick up your money after viewing,well i'll love to tell you this and understand this ,the association also tell me to be responsible for the transfer charges ,which is gonna be required for the transferring of deposit and a month rent by wanna be tenant,and which i have accepted i'll always give that to you immediately i invited you for the viewing,,so after viewing you can go pick up the transferred money,but before that,i'll give you what ever amount you used for the transfer,i mean the western union transfer charges,hope to hear from you soon, well i know you will love the flat as well 'cuz it's exactly as it is in the pictures,
Mrs Tagliavini Mascha
P.S You can call my husband on this number 07045789630 or ,07024028246,he
knows much about the flat so he can explain to you how you make the transfer to your self i mean you name as Receiver and Your same name as Sender,because after the viewing you will go pick up your money your self,because you name is already there as the receivers name,hope you call my husband..But all i wanna see on the transfer receipt scanned copy is the addition of the rent and deposit ,rent of .£750 + deposit of £600 which will be refunded back to you on the fifth day of move in date.
Total £1350
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Thanks for your prompt reply in the flat,well Sure you can come for the viewing on today or tomorrow ,but i'm sorry i could not provide you my contact phone number,well it was due to my past experience,my mobile phone got stolen by two Ladies,you cant even imagine,they came to my flat for viewing and i never knew ,their impression was to come and steal not to view,they stole my jewelries,rings,and other valuables including my mobile phone,so ever since then,i have report the case to the landlord and landladies housing association in London West India Quay(CANARY WHARFCentre,and they are really eagle watching after my flat for me now,i'm very happy about that despite i'm even trying to secure my flat,so my lawyer said,hence forth,anyone who is willing to come and view the flat should always,show their capability, in the flat and also show that they really have the rent and deposit payment with them,well you can reply me as soon as possible to know what kind of references we will be wanting to see from you,aswe proceed on with the viewing and other things ,once again thanks for your interest in my flat Please i will like to ask you some question below and i will be glad if you can answer me with sincerity.
1) Do you have the rent and deposit with you presently?
2) Do you really want to rent a flat?
3) Do you have any responsible farmily or friend`s in London?
4) Are you renting it alone or with someone?
5) Which country are you from?
6) Can i have look at your ID?
hope to hear from you soon, Await your reply.
Rent is (£750) pcm for the whole flat and all bills are inclusive with the rent!
Deposit is (£600) which will be refunded back to you on the seveth day of your final
move in date!! Reply back now!!!
Mrs.Tagliavini Mascha.
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Hello,
>
> Yeah, i'm renting out the whole flat. It has 2 bedrooms. As i have said
> earlier, i am presently in Birmingham busy attending a seminar which I'm one
> of the facilitator. But can still come around if we both agree on a perfect
> date and time to meet.
>
> But, what i am requesting for is the assurance that you can pay me and
> an evidence that you have the money to pay at hand when i come around,
> because I have had on several times whereby some people said they are
> interested and after viewing and like the room and love to occupy, later
> they will tell me to reduce the amount for them or will pay me later once
> they get a good job.
>
>
> For now i need your suggestion, because i can't afford to leave this
> seminar and come there without an evidence that you have the money to pay
> for the rent once i come over to show you the place and you like it.
>
>
> NOTE: I'm not asking you to pay for the apartment you've not seen.
>
> Regards
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Hello,
Really appreciate your words in assuring to pay me if you like
the Flat.I understand you quite okay.However,i do not want to stand on
people's promise of paying me cash or cheque when we meet again
because i have met with time wasters.I was discussing with my
colleague about the idea on how i will be so sure that i will not be
coming down to London on a futile exercise and she advised that we can
work out something via Western Union Transfer.
She made me to understand that she has used it a couple of
times for renting out her room if she is not around. She said that
western union can actually hold the money as an evidence and surety
that her tenant will pay her at least for the first month and
deposit.She explained that you can visit any Western union outlet and
transfer the money IN YOUR FRIEND NAME as the SENDER and RECEIVER will
be in YOUR NAME.-You will use his/her name as the SENDER and AFTER
viewing and you are okay with the flat,we both can go back to withdraw
your money from western union close to my flat as she said she has
done transactions this way before.
I do not want you to have the feeling that i am asking for
money BEFORE you see what you are renting because i know that payment
is meant to be done AFTER you have seen the Flat and okay with it.-The
reason why you have to be receiver is basically to give you the
confidence that your money is still in your name and to make sure that
your money is still safe since it is still in you name as the receiver
as you are the only one who can collect it with a valid ID,maybe with
a passport or drivers license.
So in order for me to also be on a good side,you can go ahead
and make the transfer since you have the money ready,let me know
immediately you do the transfer so that i can know how to squeeze out
time to come and meet you.But i will have to rely on your honesty and
truth that you have actually make the payment before i leave here to
come down to London to see you.What evidence will you give me so that
I can be sure that you have made the payment? I was made to understand
that you can Send me the (Sender name, Receiver name and MTCN) to
confirm here online on www.westernunion.com if its there before making
my way.
I was also made to understand that western union takes some
charges for the transfer and i am telling you that i will return back
to you the full transfer charges whether you decide to rent the flat
or not when we meet,ok?After doing the transfer,then i will have to
leave here and be with you in London to meet you immediately.
Please,understand that i am NOT asking you to pay me BEFORE you view
the flat as payment is to be done AFTER viewing.
I only want to be sure that i am not going to waste my time
this time around and i think that with this condition,both of us can
be sure we are not wasting our times.Let me know if you are okay with
this so that we can proceed.Thanks so much while i will be waiting to
read from you and i am looking forward to meet you and be great
friends eventually.
I will get the contract ready for you to sign if you like to take the
Flat after viewing and the keys will be handed over to you
immediately after contract.
Receipt of payment will be issued to you after which you have sign the
lease agreement form.
PS:I am sorry for the lengthy mail.I only want to explain myself better
Regards
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Dirty Mom

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| elxenon wrote: | | ... Is there any way to get back my lovely cash? ... |
No. |
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korax
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:00 am Post subject: Scammers location |
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| If they send you the email address I can trace their IP addresses to find out their exact location. |
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All_blacks_2011
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: Scammers location |
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| korax wrote: | | If they send you the email address I can trace their IP addresses to find out their exact location. |
Depends - if they have sent it from Gmail the IP address returned will be from the Gmail server.
Also, add "NATALIE CLEMENTINE <nathaliehome2000@yahoo.com>" to the list too guys. |
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jennye91
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:01 pm Post subject: Katy or how to steale money life_fullsaky@hotmail.com |
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Hi,
I'm french and while seeking for a roomate I got also contacted by the "famous" Katy. Here is her/him message:
Hello,
Thanks so much for the mail and the much interest in my room, I work as facilitator for the organization of one conference nevertheless it demands lot of my time since now and this has put a lot of load on my shoulders.
However,My name is Katy ,I live in New York, I am 24 years-old,female from England study new York and part time working, i like traveling, going out , am an intelligent,,friendly,very approachable,honest and professional girl love music so much and going out with friends working as a full-time life and I am also a fully qualified and going health club.
The location is located in the .....East 15th Street, Manhattan, New York, New York (NY) 10003 Rent: ( 600 dollar Per Month) Refundable security Deposit 800.00 dollar,the room is available from March 2008, In the flat there are two single room and one double room has a very bid bed that can sleep two people with a television connected to cable,a small refrigerator apart from a big freezer in the kitchen a private bathroom with toilet drawer,however the apartment itself has the following for your benefit:a big living room fully furnished with a television connected to cable,internet facility available which i connect my laptop to but if you have a laptop you can bring along lane connect as well,but in case you don't have we can share mine.
The transport facilities are quite ok in the area a is near the tube station and i will be sending to you more pictures of the flat,I would be glad to reserve the room for you till your arrival,But i will want you to understand the fact that before i could reserve the room for you,You will have to get back to me with your full name and your current address with prefer moving in date in other to make the rental agreement form so that you can go through the terms and condition and once you are okay with that then you will need to NEXT proceed other to reserve the room for you.Hope you get all this?Don't hesitate to get back to me if you have more question.Thanks while waiting to read from you.I sincerely thank you!........
Regards
Katy
She/he even sent me a rent agreement.. I'm really glad this forum exists, thanks to you I avoided being stolen... |
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jennye91
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I forgot I also sent him/her my passport copy, I'm Jennifer Pichard from France.
I know he/her might be using it for his/her next character.
Just let you know that I'm not renting anything!!!!!
I feel so ashamed
her/his email address
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Dirty Mom

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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: Scammers location |
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| korax wrote: | | If they send you the email address I can trace their IP addresses to find out their exact location. |
And how do you do this exactly? My "exact" location tends to be within a general 100 miles of me, when I do it on myself. |
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