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healthy_lemon
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 Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:39 am Post subject: is organic Veg any better for you than normal food? |
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I'm gonna be muching on carrots and apples for the next couple years (unless fate deems otherwise) to detox the body of all the processed food i've eaten since i was a kid.
I often wonder if your organic carrot or apple is gonna be any better or worse in terms of chemical/ mineral/vitamin content than the mass grown value carrots and apples i'm currently eating a la tesco - anyone know of any actual medical proof or is it all just theories, with no actual facts ? |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:29 am Post subject: Re: is organic Veg any better for you than normal food? |
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| healthy_lemon wrote: | I'm gonna be muching on carrots and apples for the next couple years (unless fate deems otherwise) to detox the body of all the processed food i've eaten since i was a kid.
I often wonder if your organic carrot or apple is gonna be any better or worse in terms of chemical/ mineral/vitamin content than the mass grown value carrots and apples i'm currently eating a la tesco - anyone know of any actual medical proof or is it all just theories, with no actual facts ? |
there are all sorts of views on that, non organic food contains the same goodness as organic food.even gm food is okay to eat,but is bad for the environment, just make sure that you wash so called non organic food under running water.
also all this detox stuff is mainly nonsense just eat a normal healthy diet and you will be fine.things like colonic irrigation are bad for you as it destroys bacteria needed to keep you regular.
also switching to a lot of vegetable matter will make you fart a lot and give feeling of being bloated. |
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LiberaMeDomine
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: is organic Veg any better for you than normal food? |
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| healthy_lemon wrote: | I'm gonna be muching on carrots and apples for the next couple years (unless fate deems otherwise) to detox the body of all the processed food i've eaten since i was a kid.
I often wonder if your organic carrot or apple is gonna be any better or worse in terms of chemical/ mineral/vitamin content than the mass grown value carrots and apples i'm currently eating a la tesco - anyone know of any actual medical proof or is it all just theories, with no actual facts ? |
healthy, you look Über sexy in your new vid...I need a closer look at that tat on your left shoulder  oh yeah re detox, I've restricted myself to eating meat once a week and enjoy a diet of mostly rice, good fresh fish, organic sweet potato (mashed and seasoned), organic or free range eggs (no more than two in a week), washed and prepared spinach...basically lots of fresh fruit and veg.
I go for organic garlic simply because it lasts about three times as long as the garlic you can buy for 10p a pound. I'm also a stickler for porridge (cooked well with skimmed milk and sweetened slightly with organic honey). these are all fillers and then you don't feel bad when you get yourself a treat. |
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healthy_lemon
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:12 pm Post subject: Re: is organic Veg any better for you than normal food? |
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| LiberaMeDomine wrote: | | healthy_lemon wrote: | I'm gonna be muching on carrots and apples for the next couple years (unless fate deems otherwise) to detox the body of all the processed food i've eaten since i was a kid.
I often wonder if your organic carrot or apple is gonna be any better or worse in terms of chemical/ mineral/vitamin content than the mass grown value carrots and apples i'm currently eating a la tesco - anyone know of any actual medical proof or is it all just theories, with no actual facts ? |
healthy, you look Über sexy in your new vid...I need a closer look at that tat on your left shoulder oh yeah re detox, I've restricted myself to eating meat once a week and enjoy a diet of mostly rice, good fresh fish, organic sweet potato (mashed and seasoned), organic or free range eggs (no more than two in a week), washed and prepared spinach...basically lots of fresh fruit and veg.
I go for organic garlic simply because it lasts about three times as long as the garlic you can buy for 10p a pound. I'm also a stickler for porridge (cooked well with skimmed milk and sweetened slightly with organic honey). these are all fillers and then you don't feel bad when you get yourself a treat. |
yeah, i've started on the free range eggs, becomming consious of what you eat and where it came from is part of the process of living a healthier lifestlye I guess. |
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Elina
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How odd? The organic garlic that I've bought has always gone woopy before the non-organic one. Ok, great to buy non-organic because it lasts longer but having said that I'm a wee bit worried about all the additives used to make it last. With all the GM food, I'm worried about what I actually am eating. Pesticides, no news. Additives, I would love to think that my apple didn't have any but being non-organic and staying hard for a week, it must have something in it
I buy non-organic simply because my eating habits are erratic and I need stuff to keep. I wash them to get rid of pesticides and choose to ignore the fact that they've possibly got additives |
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healthy_lemon
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| Elina wrote: | How odd? The organic garlic that I've bought has always gone woopy before the non-organic one. Ok, great to buy non-organic because it lasts longer but having said that I'm a wee bit worried about all the additives used to make it last. With all the GM food, I'm worried about what I actually am eating. Pesticides, no news. Additives, I would love to think that my apple didn't have any but being non-organic and staying hard for a week, it must have something in it
I buy non-organic simply because my eating habits are erratic and I need stuff to keep. I wash them to get rid of pesticides and choose to ignore the fact that they've possibly got additives |
I think they 'erradiate' ? apples and similar fruit to make them last longer - I remember there was a big fuss about 10-15 years ago about it as everyone said they didn't want radiation in food but as far as I know it went unchallenged and it's common place - hence the long lasting apple.
I've forgotten how long stuff actually lasts in it's natural state - I vaguely remeber milk only lasting a day or two in the fridge, which made the milkman popular on our estate, but that was when supermarkets were still abit of a novelty... |
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The Chairman of the Bored
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| imlooking wrote: | | healthy_lemon wrote: | I'm gonna be muching on carrots and apples for the next couple years (unless fate deems otherwise) to detox the body of all the processed food i've eaten since i was a kid.
I often wonder if your organic carrot or apple is gonna be any better or worse in terms of chemical/ mineral/vitamin content than the mass grown value carrots and apples i'm currently eating a la tesco - anyone know of any actual medical proof or is it all just theories, with no actual facts ? |
there are all sorts of views on that, non organic food contains the same goodness as organic food.even gm food is okay to eat,but is bad for the environment, just make sure that you wash so called non organic food under running water.
also all this detox stuff is mainly nonsense just eat a normal healthy diet and you will be fine.things like colonic irrigation are bad for you as it destroys bacteria needed to keep you regular.
also switching to a lot of vegetable matter will make you fart a lot and give feeling of being bloated. |
why are you a guest looky? |
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| When I see food labelled as being organic in Tescos I sometimes wander by whos standards is it organic! Luckily for me living in Devon there's a local delivery service for organic food I use called Tor To Tor. Fresh food straight from a local butchers on Dartmoor so at least I know I'm getting the most genuine form of organic food and fresh meat that you can get! |
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Joy Ray
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Hi, I'm working on the same process you are, and from what I've read, it not only matters what is put on food [pesticides], but what soil the food is grown in, as well as how it is handled!
If soil is over farmed, there isn't the mineral content that we need, so It's any body's guess just how good any food is!
I grow some foods in containers as we are renting, and use soil, compost manure and seaweed, and spinach, tomatoes, lettuce, herbs, and even snow peas grow well in tubs, and taste great. Don't know about the minerals!
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Reggleworm
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: is organic Veg any better for you than normal food? |
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| healthy_lemon wrote: | I'm gonna be muching on carrots and apples for the next couple years (unless fate deems otherwise) to detox the body of all the processed food i've eaten since i was a kid.
I often wonder if your organic carrot or apple is gonna be any better or worse in terms of chemical/ mineral/vitamin content than the mass grown value carrots and apples i'm currently eating a la tesco - anyone know of any actual medical proof or is it all just theories, with no actual facts ? |
  Organic is always better - if you can get the real stuff. Markets are the cheapest way of buying these in Australia but I am not sure about other countries. Check out my theories on my website ... http://www.cancertohealthylifestyle.com |
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montyzuma
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last figures i saw on bbc and other trusted sites were that contrary to public opinion
organic is no better for you than non organic
yes, i know, i was surprised too
and de-tox diets etc etc are a load of hogwash as well
google de-tox diet scam
it isnt widely promoted because theres a lot of money to be made if flogging people detox stuff etc
eat a healthy balanced diet, in moderation and you wont go far wrong.
some people think they tase better ok fine
try a blind taste test with a friend and see if it true
just remember no one gets out alive
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Reggleworm
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:26 pm Post subject: Detox or not |
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I am cautious to recommend too much detox - I don't disagree with it but I do know you have to be careful what you use etc. Yes I agree alot of the health stuff can seem to be money influenced but I would rather put my money in that direction than the pharmaceutical world's - I would rather prevent than try to cure - I know I have been there myself with curing cancer - and I do believe fresh, nonsprayed, non-chemically produced would be better by far. | montyzuma wrote: | last figures i saw on bbc and other trusted sites were that contrary to public opinion
organic is no better for you than non organic
yes, i know, i was surprised to
and de-tox diets etc etc are a load of hogwash as well
google de-tox diet scam
it isnt widely promoted because theres a lot of money to be made if flogging people detox stuff etc
eat a healthy balanced diet, in moderation and you wont go far wrong.
some people think they tase better ok fine
try a blind taste test with a friend and see if it true
just remember no one gets out alive |
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montyzuma
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should i get cancer, i know where i'd be betting my life
tested phama companies drugs or some guru's heathy happy clappy think beautiful thoughts regime.
have you ever read John Diamond's book when he was pegging it and tried alternative therapys. ????
It nice to think the nasty big companies are out to get you and you can do it on your own with flowers and nature but testing doesnt hold it up
still i intend to live forever so it wont affect me
(it's working so far)
you pays your money etc etc
dunno if it'll be of assistance to you or not but Canada has recently started a thing called project false hope warning against the amount of fraudulent cancer cures going about, link to it below
http://www.ic.gc.ca/cmb/welcomeic.nsf/261ce500dfcd7259852564820068dc6d/85256a5d006b97208525740a004d408c!OpenDocument
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Growing your own veg is the only way you know its going to be pact full of nutrients. You know what you do or don't put on it (I suggest compost). Plus it's the time it take to get from soil to plate that depleats most of it's nutrients.
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Reggleworm
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:33 pm Post subject: Home grown is best |
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| medousa wrote: | Growing your own veg is the only way you know its going to be pact full of nutrients. You know what you do or don't put on it (I suggest compost). Plus it's the time it take to get from soil to plate that depleats most of it's nutrients.
Stay healthy lemon. |
I agree - we went to the farmers markets yesterday and my daughter bought seedlings to start her own garden - unfortunately I live in an apartment for now but I have herb pots etc. When her garden takes I will look forward to those yummy nutrients. And yes compost is great - had a worm farm once too. Here's to Great Health "Stay Healthy Lemon" - great name!
Jennyreg
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medousa
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: Home grown is best |
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| Reggleworm wrote: | | medousa wrote: | Growing your own veg is the only way you know its going to be pact full of nutrients. You know what you do or don't put on it (I suggest compost). Plus it's the time it take to get from soil to plate that depleats most of it's nutrients.
Stay healthy lemon. |
I agree - we went to the farmers markets yesterday and my daughter bought seedlings to start her own garden - unfortunately I live in an apartment for now but I have herb pots etc. When her garden takes I will look forward to those yummy nutrients. And yes compost is great - had a worm farm once too. Here's to Great Health "Stay Healthy Lemon" - great name!
Jennyreg
[url]www.cancertohealthylifestyle.com
[/url]http:lovelifeormoney.blogspot.com |
I used to grow tomatoes in small pots on the window sill, when I lived in a flat, the yield wasn't great but they were simply bursting with flavour.
You could even try sprouting beans and peas in the airing cupboard, chickpeas are good for that sort of thing. You can get special packs of sprouting beans from health food shops. Once you know what can sprout, you can just by individual stuff from most shops, it will be cheaper that way. Kids love the magic of that, and it only takes few days to do.. |
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healthy_lemon
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| medousa wrote: | Growing your own veg is the only way you know its going to be pact full of nutrients. You know what you do or don't put on it (I suggest compost). Plus it's the time it take to get from soil to plate that depleats most of it's nutrients.
Stay healthy lemon. |
we have an added problem of soil purity that hasn't seen much senible talk - that is the mass spraying of fields in the south of England (east to west coast) in the 40's and 50's - with dodgey test pestacide chemical's by the government - when it was popular to grow your veggies out side in an allotment.
Info. was released at kew after a 50 privacy ban was lifted - which basically implied mass spraying was carried out without concern of the potential side effects to the soil (or people) long term.
Reminds me of mercury fillings - be abit hard to take out all the posion from the soil though.... |
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Reggleworm
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject: Re: Home grown is best |
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| medousa wrote: | | Reggleworm wrote: | | medousa wrote: | Growing your own veg is the only way you know its going to be pact full of nutrients. You know what you do or don't put on it (I suggest compost). Plus it's the time it take to get from soil to plate that depleats most of it's nutrients.
Stay healthy lemon. |
I agree - we went to the farmers markets yesterday and my daughter bought seedlings to start her own garden - unfortunately I live in an apartment for now but I have herb pots etc. When her garden takes I will look forward to those yummy nutrients. And yes compost is great - had a worm farm once too. Here's to Great Health "Stay Healthy Lemon" - great name!
Jennyreg
[url]www.cancertohealthylifestyle.com
[/url]http:lovelifeormoney.blogspot.com |
I used to grow tomatoes in small pots on the window sill, when I lived in a flat, the yield wasn't great but they were simply bursting with flavour.
You could even try sprouting beans and peas in the airing cupboard, chickpeas are good for that sort of thing. You can get special packs of sprouting beans from health food shops. Once you know what can sprout, you can just by individual stuff from most shops, it will be cheaper that way. Kids love the magic of that, and it only takes few days to do.. |
Thank you for that information - I am keen to try the tomatoes as I love cherry tomatoes. 'Certainly the better way to go - not only is it good for you but it gives you a sense of achievement eating your own produce. Thank you once again.
Jennyreg
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http://lovelifeormoney.blogspot.com[/url] |
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medousa
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| healthy_lemon wrote: | | medousa wrote: | Growing your own veg is the only way you know its going to be pact full of nutrients. You know what you do or don't put on it (I suggest compost). Plus it's the time it take to get from soil to plate that depleats most of it's nutrients.
Stay healthy lemon. |
we have an added problem of soil purity that hasn't seen much senible talk - that is the mass spraying of fields in the south of England (east to west coast) in the 40's and 50's - with dodgey test pestacide chemical's by the government - when it was popular to grow your veggies out side in an allotment.
Info. was released at kew after a 50 privacy ban was lifted - which basically implied mass spraying was carried out without concern of the potential side effects to the soil (or people) long term.
Reminds me of mercury fillings - be abit hard to take out all the posion from the soil though.... |
Thing is there is always so much to worry about. If I couldn't find anything to worry about I used to worry about worrying. Things aren't always as bad as it seems, If this soil contamination started fifty years ago, chances are we are all infected with some poison or other, so you can't really do anything about it, if you see what I mean.. keep your mind on the future and making your own life today happy. We can all learn from the past, but we can't turn the clocks back. |
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medousa
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: Home grown is best |
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| Reggleworm wrote: | | medousa wrote: | | Reggleworm wrote: | | medousa wrote: | Growing your own veg is the only way you know its going to be pact full of nutrients. You know what you do or don't put on it (I suggest compost). Plus it's the time it take to get from soil to plate that depleats most of it's nutrients.
Stay healthy lemon. |
I agree - we went to the farmers markets yesterday and my daughter bought seedlings to start her own garden - unfortunately I live in an apartment for now but I have herb pots etc. When her garden takes I will look forward to those yummy nutrients. And yes compost is great - had a worm farm once too. Here's to Great Health "Stay Healthy Lemon" - great name!
Jennyreg
[url]www.cancertohealthylifestyle.com
[/url]http:lovelifeormoney.blogspot.com |
I used to grow tomatoes in small pots on the window sill, when I lived in a flat, the yield wasn't great but they were simply bursting with flavour.
You could even try sprouting beans and peas in the airing cupboard, chickpeas are good for that sort of thing. You can get special packs of sprouting beans from health food shops. Once you know what can sprout, you can just by individual stuff from most shops, it will be cheaper that way. Kids love the magic of that, and it only takes few days to do.. |
Thank you for that information - I am keen to try the tomatoes as I love cherry tomatoes. 'Certainly the better way to go - not only is it good for you but it gives you a sense of achievement eating your own produce. Thank you once again.
Jennyreg
[url]http://www.cancertohealthylifestyle.com
http://lovelifeormoney.blogspot.com[/url] |
If you want to grow cherry tomatoes, go for a Golden yellow variety, they really are the best. |
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Reggleworm
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:52 pm Post subject: Re: Home grown is best |
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| medousa wrote: | | Reggleworm wrote: | | medousa wrote: | | Reggleworm wrote: | | medousa wrote: | Growing your own veg is the only way you know its going to be pact full of nutrients. You know what you do or don't put on it (I suggest compost). Plus it's the time it take to get from soil to plate that depleats most of it's nutrients.
Stay healthy lemon. |
I agree - we went to the farmers markets yesterday and my daughter bought seedlings to start her own garden - unfortunately I live in an apartment for now but I have herb pots etc. When her garden takes I will look forward to those yummy nutrients. And yes compost is great - had a worm farm once too. Here's to Great Health "Stay Healthy Lemon" - great name!
Jennyreg
[url]www.cancertohealthylifestyle.com
[/url]http:lovelifeormoney.blogspot.com |
I used to grow tomatoes in small pots on the window sill, when I lived in a flat, the yield wasn't great but they were simply bursting with flavour.
You could even try sprouting beans and peas in the airing cupboard, chickpeas are good for that sort of thing. You can get special packs of sprouting beans from health food shops. Once you know what can sprout, you can just by individual stuff from most shops, it will be cheaper that way. Kids love the magic of that, and it only takes few days to do.. |
Thank you for that information - I am keen to try the tomatoes as I love cherry tomatoes. 'Certainly the better way to go - not only is it good for you but it gives you a sense of achievement eating your own produce. Thank you once again.
Jennyreg
[url]http://www.cancertohealthylifestyle.com
http://lovelifeormoney.blogspot.com[/url] |
If you want to grow cherry tomatoes, go for a Golden yellow variety, they really are the best. |
Thank you for that - I will try them. What success do you have with herbs? Jennyreg [url]www.cancertohealthylifestyle.com[/url] |
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medousa
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I have several types of thyme in my garden, they are good ground cover for shallow patches of earth. I have a lovely camomile step, the smell is quite intoxicating when i sit on it. My other outdoor herbs have all been eaten by the dog!! I did used to have some parsley and coriander on my window sill, but I think the winter killed them off.
What about you, any luck on the herb front? |
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Reggleworm
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| medousa wrote: | I have several types of thyme in my garden, they are good ground cover for shallow patches of earth. I have a lovely camomile step, the smell is quite intoxicating when i sit on it. My other outdoor herbs have all been eaten by the dog!! I did used to have some parsley and coriander on my window sill, but I think the winter killed them off.
What about you, any luck on the herb front? |
That all sounds lovely - even if the dog destroyed some of it - I do miss my garden! One day again I'll have one, in the meantime I have parsely, chives and lavender in pots - oh and jazzmine - I love jazzmine when it is in flower. I am going to invest in some more herbs though - maybe even as soon as this weekend! What part of the world are you in?
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