[MR LEMON]

Well ofcourse it's fact, whether it's completely caused by us humans is another matter. It's a well known fact that the climate changes, we have had ice ages, periods where the whole world is covered in water and tropical times too. Elephants and also mammoths have roamed Britain at different times. We are simply experiencing a new phase in our earths history.

We can ofcourse blindly believe everything our Government tells us "the rain forest is being felled so now we have global warning, there aren't enough trees to soak up the carbon gasses." Strange that, considering most of the harmful gasses are actually sucked up by plancton and zoo plancton.

The world shifts thats all it not only goes round and round but shifts on its axes too.

[ToXiC WaStE DuMp]

[quote="MR LEMON"]Well ofcourse it's fact, whether it's completely caused by us humans is another matter. It's a well known fact that the climate changes, we have had ice ages, periods where the whole world is covered in water and tropical times too. Elephants and also mammoths have roamed Britain at different times. We are simply experiencing a new phase in our earths history.

We can ofcourse blindly believe everything our Government tells us "the rain forest is being felled so now we have global warning, there aren't enough trees to soak up the carbon gasses." Strange that, considering most of the harmful gasses are actually sucked up by plancton and zoo plancton.

The world shifts thats all it not only goes round and round but shifts on its axes too.[/quote]


The coming Ice-age in the seventies, Climate change, Global warming for-f*ck-sakes what ever next? It’s a full-time job trying to keep-up with these Micky-Mouse names.

The facts are the worlds weather has been dropping, so are they by this time next year going to call it ‘Global cooling’?

Lets be done with it and call it “Global Bollocking” because you know it makes sense.

[.?]

climate change is fact - the world has always experienced climate change

have humans been the cause = debatable

are we making it worse = possibly

can we do anything to stop it = fuck all we can do

[healthy_lemon]

James Whale convinced me t's all a load of rubbish (literally)

so I agre with you all, we are part of nature after all.

If nature decides we are finnished - it will stop giving us cures to make us live longer, simple.

[the beak]

[Jenn]

[JurassicJane]

*sighs too*

Sure, the climate has been changing for over 4 billion years. Perfectly naturally in fact. Not sure you'd like the Earth at 700 million years ago, when it was so cold there was sea ice at the equator. And I don't think you'd like it 250 million years ago either when it was hot and dry and 95% of all species had been wiped out in an extinction event.

The earth has a wonderful way of adapting. The earth will prevail regardless of what we do to it. Climate changes on a regular basis, depending on where we are in relation to the sun, how much the earth's axis is tilting, whether there is a lot of volcanic activity. But it happens comparatively slowly - on a geological timescale.

Humans are changing the climate at a frighteningly rapid pace - too rapid for nature to adapt/migrate and reach equilibrium. We are chucking more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than the gassiest volcanoes, and it has all been happening in the past 150 years. You can draw a direct correlation between the start of the Industrial Revolution and a marked increase in carbon dioxide levels.

You know what scares the shit out of me? The wobbling already happening to the North Atlantic Conveyor. If the sea temperature rises and if the salinity decreases much more, there will be no warm water being pulled north from the Caribbean. Without that, the Gulf Stream will shut down. And then we'll have the same average temperatures as Spitsbergen. Try sustaining agriculture on the level we're used to in that sort of weather.

We could go from only needing to import about 15% of our produce to needing to import 100% of it. How fucked would we be then? If that happened over 100 years, we could adapt. But it's going to happen over 10-15 years if we don't stop emitting carbon dioxide on the levels we're doing so.

I've been a geologist for 10 years. I've seen the evidence for myself. With the help of far cleverer geologists I've seen some of the future, and it's terrifying. The earth will recover, but there aren't going to be any humans left to say "I told you we'll be fine".

[the beak]

its to late to do anything to stop it now,all governments do is expect industry to lead the changes that are needed and there is little sign of that happening
people go on about co2 not being that bad,but its the one that holds in the heat and melts the perma frost which in turn methane is released which is 23 times more damaging.
also the oceans are getting to the point of not coping with the excess of co2 so oxygen gets depleted sea turns stagnant hydrogen suphide builds up killing all sea life,then probably bubbles into atmosphere killing most life like it did 250 million years ago. and so far its only taken about 150 years for man to do this where nature tooks hundreds of thousands of years.

[JurassicJane]

[the beak]

[king_tut]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.................................. Who cares???

[JurassicJane]

[the beak]

[healthy_lemon]

will we be killed by a meteorite in the meantime - this is the question - if there was a way to generate electric using an exercise machine and the electric could only be used foe my PC - I'd be really fit now, but i don't know if it would make any difference to the weather!

[the beak]

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