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Orwellian_Logic

Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 5137 Location: Londonistan
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:41 pm Post subject: Belgians losing control of Brussels |
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Belgians losing control of Brussels
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f11_1189887753
Brussels might be 200 miles from London but the two capital cities have a lot in common. Both have extreme left-wing mayors, both are home to a growing migrant population from the Third World, both are home to a growing number of Muslims who are displaying all the signs of successful colonists cowering the indigenous population into submission.
Just two days ago we reported the brutal actions of Brussels police who smashed up a birthday party by Filip deWinter Leader of the Flemish nationalists, Vlaams Belang, to coincide with the sixth anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks by Islamic extremists on America.
The brutality of the Brussels police against just 300 friends and supporters of Mr. deWinter was unprecedented, with three leading VB members clubbed and arrested. Eye witnesses reported a fleet of water cannons, a mounted cavalry unit and a further riot squad were held just yards away in reserve, just in case the real defenders of European democracy including Frank Vanhecke, an elected MEP, were minded to carry out acts of extreme violence.
Minority decision-makers
While the overwhelming majority of the uniformed police officers from the Brussels force are native Belgians the people that made the decision to ban an earlier protest to stop the Islamification of Europe were colonisers.
Every year the authorities in Brussels, the capital of Belgium and of the European Union (EU), receive between 500 and 600 applications for permission to demonstrate or hold protest marches. With very few exceptions permission is always granted. In the past five years only six applications were turned down – an average of one a year. Among these was one for a demonstration by the DHKP/C, a Kurdish terrorist organization. However in August Freddy Thielemans, the Mayor of Brussels, announced that he was banning a demonstration against the Islamization of Europe, planned to be held on September 11 in front of the European Parliament buildings.
Mayor Thielemans was worried that the demonstration will upset the large immigrant population of Brussels. Over half the inhabitants of the Brussels region are of foreign origin, many of them from Morocco. According to the mayor there is a real danger of violence between demonstrators and Muslims living in the neighbourhood. The latter might not tolerate native Europeans protesting against their continent becoming Eurabia.
Thielemans is a member of the Parti Socialiste (PS), a Belgian party which caters for the Muslim population. The PS is the largest party in Brussels, holding 17 of the 47 seats in the city council. 10 of the 17 PS-councillors are Muslims. The PS governs Brussels in a coalition with the Christian-Democrats, who have 11 councillors, of whom 2 are Muslims and 3 are immigrants from Sub-Saharan Africa. Only 13 of the 28 councillors in the governing coalition of the city are native Belgians. Thielemans is the most conspicuous of these. He is an atheist who is fond of Muslims, not because he respects religious people, but because he hates Christians.
Christianaphobe
On 2 April 2005 the Brussels mayor was attending an official cocktail party with the mayor of Angoulême (France), when the news of the death of Pope John Paul II reached him. On hearing the news he ordered “Champagne for everyone!” His French colleague walked out in disgust. Upsetting Catholics has never particularly worried the Socialist mayor of Brussels, for instance when he refused to ban a play (by a Moroccan-born author) which was advertised around the country on posters portraying the Virgin Mary with bare breasts.
In Mr. Thielemans’s absence his deputy, Algerian-born Faouzia Hariche, is Brussels’ acting mayor – which is an improvement. Hariche, too, obviously, is Muslim-friendly, but she has never publicly toasted the death of the Pope.
Last Spring, the Danish group Stop Islamiseringen af Danmark (SIAD), the British group Stop the Islamisation of Europe (SIOE) and the German group Pax Europa, decided to organize a protest march against the introduction of Sharia laws in Europe. The organizers want the march to take place on 9/11 in the streets of Brussels and to end in front of the EU Parliament.
The Brussels ban is a clear example of what happens when the native people lose control, political control of their own towns and cities. What can happen in Brussels today can happen in London, Cardiff or Glasgow tomorrow when the native people become a minority and the decisions are made by a minority with their own vested interests totally at odds with the wishes and aspirations and established traditions of the native people.
And Brussels controls the UK and the rest of Europe??????
Islamification here we come. Excuse me, I suppose I must just be paranoid as an 'agnostic'. |
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Orwellian_Logic

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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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I can't imagine anything worse. Speaking up in your own country at Islamic appeasement, rapid growth and fears of Isalmification, only to be arrested by the Police at your concerns as well as practicing 'Free Speech' something alien in Islamic Countries.
Belgium, will probably go first under Islam at current population growth of Islam followed by France in around 50 years. Depending whether people see sense, most of Europe will fall.
So sad, wonderful cultures, languages histories, will fall as minarets with sickles atop will adourn European Landscapes with not a church to be seen in sight.
The Muslims on here will love it as a way forward. The Socialists will pat them on the back and the liberals will just sit on the fence and do nothing.  |
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oblivion

Joined: 19 Oct 2007 Posts: 1032 Location: Londonistan
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Quite simply, they're f*cked.
And as for the rest of Western Europe - the future is one of declining economic dominance, declining living standards and declining civil cohesion.
Once you reach a certain tipping point i.e you could totally stop immigration tomorrow, but it won't matter because birthrates will determine the future, you've had it - it's too late. The maternity wards will take care of the rest. This is where Belgium is now.
Islam is achieving what Germany could not in two world wars - and all without firing a shot. |
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Boff1

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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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All the European Capitals are being targetted for different reasons and Belgium is seen as the power base for the United States of Europe.
Amsterdam, Paris, Berlin....London! |
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Orwellian_Logic

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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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| oblivion wrote: | Quite simply, they're f*cked.
And as for the rest of Western Europe - the future is one of declining economic dominance, declining living standards and declining civil cohesion.
Once you reach a certain tipping point i.e you could totally stop immigration tomorrow, but it won't matter because birthrates will determine the future, you've had it - it's too late. The maternity wards will take care of the rest. This is where Belgium is now.
Islam is achieving what Germany could not in two world wars - and all without firing a shot. |
That's a very good point. Islam simply will invade with population growth as well as state education in Islam. Let's not also forget:
European Leaders Agree to Create Eurabia
Bat Ye’or in her book about Eurabia documented how European leaders have for years been quietly planning to merge Europe with the Islamic world. This has been denounced as a “conspiracy theory.” Only a few months ago the British Foreign Minister David Miliband said openlythat the European Union should expand to include the Muslim Middle East and North Africa. Now French President Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angela Merkel are saying virtually the same thing. The greatest betrayal in European history is fact, not fiction. And to think that many people supported Sarkozy because he should “halt” Islamization. Now he is speeding it up:
Merkel and Sarkozy Find ‘Club Med’ Compromise (Der Spiegel, 4 March 2008)
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German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Nicolas Sarkozy announced jointly that they had reached a compromise regarding Sarkozy’s proposed Mediterranean Union. At a press conference held jointly with Sarkozy, German Chancellor Angela Merkel added that the ensuing outcome should be called the “Mediterranean Union” and that it “should be a project of all 27 (European Union) member countries.” Merkel was referring to her position that any deal to create a union with the Mediterranean states that border the European Union should be negotiated and drafted in conjunction with all EU member states – not just those that border the sea, as Sarkozy had initially proposed.
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The Eurabia Code
How was a project as big as the creation of Eurabia pulled off? I have thought a lot about this question, and come to the conclusion that it succeeded precisely because of its size. St. Augustine tells the story of a pirate captured by Alexander the Great. “How dare you molest the sea?” asked Alexander. “How dare you molest the whole world?” the pirate replied. “Because I do it with a little ship only, I am called a thief; you, doing it with a great navy, are called an emperor.” It’s a matter of scale. If a small group of people sideline the democratic process in one country and start imposing their own laws on the public, it’s called a coup d’état. If they do so on an entire continent, it’s called the European Union.
The European Union and the Islamization of Europe
The British Foreign Minister David Miliband in November 2007 stated that the European Union should work towards including Middle Eastern and North African countries. The EU involves the free movement of people across borders. If it expands to the Middle East, hundreds of millions of Muslims will have free access to Germany, Italy, France, Britain, Sweden and the Czech Republic. If Turkey becomes a member, it means that Greeks, Bulgarians and others who have fought against oppression by Ottoman Turks for centuries will now be flooded with Muslims from a rapidly re-Islamizing Turkey. The same goes for Poles, Hungarians, Romanians and others who fought against Muslims for centuries. Appeasement of Islam is so deeply immersed in the structural DNA of the EU that the only way to stop the Islamization of Europe is to dismantle the European Union. All of it.
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Farnarkler2

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:22 am Post subject: |
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| OL don't bother with Canada, too cold. Move to Australia. Hell will freeze over before Australians let the islam disease take over. |
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Laugh Out Loud

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:37 am Post subject: Re: Belgians losing control of Brussels |
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Arthur Twosheds

Joined: 11 Apr 2008 Posts: 591 Location: Straddling Dimensions, nr Harrogate.
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:32 am Post subject: Re: Belgians losing control of Brussels |
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| Laugh Out Loud wrote: | | Orwellian_Logic wrote: |  |
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You forgot the screech of violins and a drum roll....  |
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Laugh Out Loud

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:37 am Post subject: |
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ticcan

Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 5602 Location: London
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Both have extreme left-wing mayors |
Up to date article then |
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Orwellian_Logic

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:31 am Post subject: |
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| Farnarkler2 wrote: | | OL don't bother with Canada, too cold. Move to Australia. Hell will freeze over before Australians let the islam disease take over. |
I don't really know if any country will stop the Islamic rot from happening Farn. It will just take the growth of the Muslims in Australia to put death to any resistance there. Like any country in this world that Muslims live, all they have to do is simply grow. They don't have to pick up any weapons and fight. All they have to do is procreate and wait and sheer volume will complete the quiet invasion. Islam will gain places of power, start changing the laws instituing culture change.
The only way any country will stop Islam from Islamifying them is to simply remove Islam from their country or put a stop on their growth and limit them to 1 child only like in China.
All you have to do is look at growth figures in the UK and other countries to see that Islam outruns every other group when it comes to growth. Here in the UK they average around 3-4 times as many children as British.
Canada will very possilby fall to Islam. I just know that I'll be dead by then. The UK and Europe may very well fall under Islamic rule though in my lifetime in the next 50 years or so, and I'd rather be looking at that from the outside in. |
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cejay0

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:35 am Post subject: |
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OL, you are obviously a man of erudition, but please... consider sending out positive vibes into the world once in a while!  |
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Farnarkler2

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:40 am Post subject: |
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OL you underestimate Australians. There has always been the atitude there that we'll let you get away with only so much then we'll come down like a ton of bricks.
That was shown by the Sydney riots not long ago. People wanted to let the lebanese there know that they taken enough shit.
Also remember when the Australian government refused to take a shipload of refugees a few years ago and was condemned by everyone. Did we give a shit? No. |
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cejay0

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| Farnarkler2 wrote: |
That was shown by the Sydney riots not long ago. People wanted to let the lebanese there know that they taken enough shit.
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I love lebanese... oops, I thought youy said Lesbian (Classic cejay0 joke). |
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ticcan

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| No country refuses individuals based on their religion |
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Farnarkler2

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| Tell that to the buddhists in Tibet. |
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Orwellian_Logic

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| cejay0 wrote: | OL, you are obviously a man of erudition, but please... consider sending out positive vibes into the world once in a while!  |
I wish I could send out positive vibes, however how can one be positive when one knows that the destruction of their culture, freedoms and democracy will happen when the Islamification starts?
There's nothing more I'd like to be able to do that post positive vibes about the world but where are they? Typhoons in Burma, Earthquakes in Bhurma, wars all over the world, mostly involving Islam, corrupt politicians pandering to Islam, children killing children in the UK, loss of morals, ethics, civilit, respect.......
I'm sure that once the above starts to change then I'll see positiveness in this world but positiveness unfortunately is being beaten down by negativeness.
Many faiths look and belief systems look at the time today that we live in and it's called the "Time of Chaos". A very appropriate world.
As long as the UK continues to allow uncontrolled immigration in and be run by the politicians that we currently have, who care nought for the people then this country will not only swim in negativity but also drown in it.
I wish very much I could see the positiveness in this world but unfortunatley, I wasn't born to be pig ignorant, a denier of the facts and someone who can't see the wood for the trees. I very much at times wish I was though. |
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oblivion

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:44 am Post subject: |
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| ticcan wrote: | | Quote: | | Both have extreme left-wing mayors |
Up to date article then |
Yes - it is, actually.
'Boris Johnson calls for illegal immigrant amnesty'
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3695048.ece
What, you thought that Boris couldn't be a blue tie wearing, Cameron-hugging Etonite and a liberal, open-borders darling all at the same time?
Tut tut. Of course he can - he's Boris: accepted on the basis of being a slightly less dreary c*nt than Ken was. |
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ticcan

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:47 am Post subject: |
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There is no way Boris can be described as extreme left wing lol
Illegal immigrants are here, paying no tax. If they are here would you rather they paid tax or didnt? |
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Orwellian_Logic

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| Farnarkler2 wrote: | OL you underestimate Australians. There has always been the atitude there that we'll let you get away with only so much then we'll come down like a ton of bricks.
That was shown by the Sydney riots not long ago. People wanted to let the lebanese there know that they taken enough shit.
Also remember when the Australian government refused to take a shipload of refugees a few years ago and was condemned by everyone. Did we give a shit? No. |
Farn,
I've always had the utmost resepct for the Aussies as they've got the Bulldog Spirit that the Brits have lost. I suppose being a scotsman it's in my Celtic/Viking blood so unlike most of the English saps, I'm a far different breed.
However.......
Farn, you're speaking now because you are part of the dying out generation of people that will protect their homelands from the immigrants, refugees, asylum seekers and those whom would change your lifestyle for the worst.
Your education system will change like the UK and become liberal and left wing. Your government is already making that change by it being in office.
It's like I say about Islam. The qualities of the Aussies will disappear, through state education as Islam will take you over by growth. This is inevitable as they procreate more than you and your fellow countrymen will.
The invasion of Australia won't happen from outside. You won't be battling on the streets against the Islamists. Islam will simply grow and grow and grow until they're the same numbers as Aussies, in positions of power to start changing your lifestyles and cultures.
Islamic Invasion will be slow and not violent, you won't even notice the change until one day when it will be too late.
Islam has a belief system over no other and all Muslims world wide follow Islam. They have NO Nationality other than Muslim and any muslim anywhere in the world is a brother or a sister to a muslim and MUST be protected.
The rest of the world is nothing as it does not unite. In the UK the socialists fight against the conservatives while the liberals side with whomever's policies they agree with more.
There is no unification in any country. Christianity is dying, possibly the only thing that could unite people to stand against Islam.
In a nutshell Farn, our foundations are crumbling while Islam's are growing stronger and stronger. We'll simply fall into the ground if any battle were to arise because we believe in nothing and are too busy fighting amongst ourselves to see a far greater threat to our society and civilisations. |
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ticcan

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I've always had the utmost resepct for the Aussies as they've got the Bulldog Spirit that the Brits have lost |
You mean that redneck ignorant spirit, yes plenty of that in Aus
| Quote: | | it's in my Celtic/Viking blood so unlike most of the English saps, I'm a far different breed. |
Fucking immigrants!! |
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oblivion

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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| ticcan wrote: | There is no way Boris can be described as extreme left wing lol
Illegal immigrants are here, paying no tax. If they are here would you rather they paid tax or didnt? |
That's the whole point - in an economic sense, the term "Left wing" no longer has any meaning. It's an anachronism. The free market has established total dominance as the consensus ideology in every major political party.
And so in 2008, when we refer to the terms "left wing" or "right wing" we are no longer referring to the now-redundant economic clashes of, for example, the 1980's. We are referring to social and cultural policy more than anything else.
Q: If you hear someone being described as "right wing" - what's the first thing you think of - their economic or their social crudentials?
Therefore, when I claim that Boris is far left, I do so with justification. Why? Because on the single most important issue that London has ever faced - historic, unprecedented levels of immigration that affects every issue from housing, to schools, to crime, overcrowding, poverty, civil cohesion, strained services, congestion etc etc etc Boris is an open borders b*tch who wants to follow the catastrophic examples Los Angeles and Spain with amnesty.
That's far left in any reasonable person's book. |
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ticcan

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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I find the labels pretty pointless anyway. Makes more sense to take things issue by issue than shouting accusations at eachother about which wing your point of view is from.
As i said, illegal immigrants are here, we dont know how many, but you can be sure they are paying no tax. So we can either carry on as we are with them paying no tax, or we can give them an amnesty so we know how many there are and get them actually paying some tax, cos they aint leaving either way. |
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Opinionated

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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| ticcan wrote: | I find the labels pretty pointless anyway. Makes more sense to take things issue by issue than shouting accusations at eachother about which wing your point of view is from.
As i said, illegal immigrants are here, we dont know how many, but you can be sure they are paying no tax. So we can either carry on as we are with them paying no tax, or we can give them an amnesty so we know how many there are and get them actually paying some tax, cos they aint leaving either way. |
Or we could round them all up and send them home  |
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ticcan

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Opinionated wrote: | | ticcan wrote: | I find the labels pretty pointless anyway. Makes more sense to take things issue by issue than shouting accusations at eachother about which wing your point of view is from.
As i said, illegal immigrants are here, we dont know how many, but you can be sure they are paying no tax. So we can either carry on as we are with them paying no tax, or we can give them an amnesty so we know how many there are and get them actually paying some tax, cos they aint leaving either way. |
Or we could round them all up and send them home  |
If we knew who they were yes we could. |
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