[whiteouse90310]

I have been the victim of a scammer named Fernando Rodrigues who has a 'company' called Vision08. I have invested £5000 with this individual on the premise that I would receive 10% of that amount every week for the rest of the year. I invested the money at the end of January and have received nothing since.

He has an army of toerags 'working' for him including Daniel Wuche used to use the e-mail address [b]eza4da07@hotmail.com [/b]who uses the e-mail address tiki_08@live.co.uk

I was shocked to find that they paid for an premium top page advertisement on here. I have ito give credit to Gumtree because many a time over the last few weeks I have reported the advert to them and each time they have removed the advert. So I want to thank Gumtree for that. I do hope that Gumtree finds a way to block these people permanently as I dont want others to lose their money as I have.

[weeowen]

Start a civil action, perhaps?

[montyzuma]

Against a fake email address?

[weeowen]

[Panda Bear]

[gums]

what a foooooooool you are

[MurphyLaw]

This post is sent under ,the right of reply.

I represent Visionfinance Uk Ltd. Previously known as Vision 08. We are very happy that the author of this post ,assumes another email address ,which is very well known in Scams.com as a fraudster. It's a shame that Mr Hamilton,Andrew , or Regina ,or Tracey keeps hidding behind a computer screen using several email accounts ,pointing an acusing finger and trying to hold hostage a company that has more then 5000 clients worldwide.It is a shame, that he uses Gumtree to spread his lies ,with no consequence.But Mr Hamilton ,we will locate you and serve you notice ,for you to have a chance to say in court what you claim online. And maybe, then you can explain also, why you were trying to launder £30,000 ... And why you used somebody else bank account, to try to get an account with the company I represent.
We would like to confirm ,that Mr Fernando Rodrigues is a Financial Manager ,working full time at Vision Finance ,and Mr Daniel Wuche is a student ,working as part time agent .
We also would like to declare that we have in our possession emails from Mr Hamilton ,asking to act as agent on behalf of Vision 08.All his correspondence will became public after the legal procedures are complete.

Murphy Simpson

[montyzuma]

If there’s one thing worse than someone lying and bringing your company into disrepute on the web, then it must be said liar starting a sock puppet to push his lying case.

Lets have a look and let you, the jury decide.

Opinions are my own , nowt to do with gumtree and I am fairly unbiased.

First off Whitehouse’s post
In my experience anyone, offering you 10% back a week, on a sum invested has to be a crook.

I managed to find vision08 website amateurish, no contact details, doesn’t look good

Mr Lawyer scam .com is a list of other sites and gives no information that I can see.
He mentions 4 names that aren’t mentioned in the original email, poss 4 punters who have been scammed and he is using a scattergun approach to put them off?
And a wee bit o latin at the end as a frosting on the cake
Interestingly both posters use free emails you would think a lawyer would use his work one.
Please come back Mr Murphy with your company name and address.

Murphy's law is an adage in Western culture that broadly states that if anything can go wrong, it will. "If there's more than one possible outcome of a job or task, and one of those outcomes will result in disaster or an undesirable consequence, then somebody will do it that way." It is most often cited as "Whatever can go wrong, will go wrong" (or, alternately, "Whatever can go wrong will go wrong, and at the worst possible time, in the worst possible way"). The saying is sometimes referred to as Sod's law or Finagle's law.

[MurphyLaw]

Dear montyzuma. Thank you, for your reply.It was fair and sensible. It would take me more than a few lines to get this matter sorted. I do not have the time ,and neither this is the place . I can't go much further on details , This is a court matter and it will be sorted in court.
I'm posting in my name ,and for confidentiality and legal reasons ,and as per my right I use a free email. Hope we clear on that chapter ,or we would have to ask you for your qualifications to act as a moderator. And may be give here your home address...The names used in my post aren't of any other punters than ,mr Hamilton himself.
About the adage ,Murphy's Law ,it's a right that I have, to use as my name is Murphy ,if people can read between the lines ... The "latin bit " means nothing more than a very old Roman saying ,that states simply the wheight of the Law , Hard Law ,It's the Law. And usually it's served wisely.
Vision finance ,website serves it's purposes ,as required by the people who manages it. And NO where on that site is stated that 10% will be paid weekly.
There is a page, where anybody wishing to be contacted by Vision can leave their details. Then it's up Vision Finance to filter that info ,and decide if they want to trade with that person.
Scams.com as changed it's name, but we have copies of the posts ,that we mentioned.
We reserve the right ,to keep all information about that subject confidential ,until court procedures take place.

[weeowen]

For a lawyer, your English is rather ... weak.

[montyzuma]

Absente reo and Absit invidia

i hope you will pardon me from argumentum ad ignorantiam

Hi Murphy law can you give us you companies name and address then?
I cant see what confidenciality that would breach and otherwise it's your word against his. and you might be a scammer.

re your clients webpage most good financial sites have an address and a contact phone no. People are giving their hard earned cash over after all

re the latin yes i know what it means. I was a bit surprised you used it.
A scammer would, to try and promote their case. re the amount of reverend doctors punting 419 scams

Absum!

[weeowen]

[MurphyLaw]

[montyzuma]

Murph in my view you aint helping your case


whats the latin for "put up or shut up"

facta, non verba


(and owen is correct)

[MurphyLaw]

I've posted in the forum ,using the right of reply . As per instructions of my client ,who can't use this forum ,in consequence of the low blows of somebody who makes acusations using a screen name. Now , I have to ask you Monty ,if you are trying somehow to imply that I'm a scammer?

If you would like details to go public ,I have no problem with that ,because now you are addressing directly to me.But before we do that ,you'll have to let me know who you are also ,and on what authority grounds are you making such demands.

If you want to have a private chat ,on who I am and what I do ,it's not problem.

[montyzuma]

If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and quacks like a duck,
I dont think it's a lawyer

I do not have to establish my bona fides as I am not claiming to be anything, You are.


hope you have a lovely day in court, (tennis or law)

[robi_daone]

Mama mia!! Nothing worst than 2 sharks fighting for the same pond.

Just wanna say something ,I've invested £1500 with Vision ,I don't remember the name of the lady I spoke with... Two weeks after I got £3000.
If they are scammers or something else ,I can't say .They promised,they delivered. I have no interest in this thing ,i just thought that would be fair to say my bit.
Thanks

[robi_daone]

[robi_daone]

[montyzuma]

Robi, nice of you to join us.

I see you are new here. How did you hear about us and this specific thread. it's a cracking co-incidence.


Are you saying that the company turned £1500 to £3000 in 2 weeks.

how did they manage that?

did you reinvest with them? If not, why not?


<Maw, git the sock from under the matress, we've hit the motherload>

[Scam Exposer]

I wonder if this is registered with the FSA? Financial companies are required by law to invest with the FSA.

www.visionfinance08.com

Registrar: TUCOWS INC.
Nameservers: NS1.LIVEDNS.CO.UK, NS2.LIVEDNS.CO.UK
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Expires: 22-may-2010
IP Address: 213.171.218.161 (server213-171-218-161.livedns.org.uk)

Whois results from whois.tucows.com:
Registrant:
Vision 08
6 lismore close
isleworth
isleworth, middlesex TW7 6QX
GB
Domain name: VISIONFINANCE08.COM

Administrative Contact:
craig, peter p.craigvisioncash@live.co.uk
4 wayside court
oakington avenue
wembley, middlesex HA9 8HX
GB 02087589093
Technical Contact:
rodrigues, fernando visioncash@live.co.uk
6 lismore close
isleworth
isleworth, middlesex TW7 6QX
GB +442082304093


Registration Service Provider:
UK Reg, domains@fasthosts.co.uk
+44 1452 541252
+44 1452 538485 (fax)
http://www.ukreg.com/



Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 28-May-2008.
Record expires on 22-May-2010.
Record created on 22-May-2008.

Registrar Domain Name Help Center:
http://domainhelp.tucows.com

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.LIVEDNS.CO.UK
NS2.LIVEDNS.CO.UK


Domain status: clientTransferProhibited
clientUpdateProhibited

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[Scam Exposer]

Another company run by the same individual that has advertised on gumtree:

WWW.DOUBLECASHMAKER.COM

Registrar: TUCOWS INC.
Nameservers: NS1.DAILY.CO.UK, NS2.DAILY.CO.UK
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Expires: 15-jun-2010
IP Address: 195.26.90.15 (webhost.daily.co.uk)

Whois results from whois.tucows.com:
Registrant:
fernando rodrigues
6 lismore close
isleworth
isleworth, middlesex TW7 6QX
GB Domain name: DOUBLECASHMAKER.COM


Administrative Contact:
rodrigues, fernando rodgus@gmx.com
6 lismore close
isleworth
isleworth, middlesex TW7 6QX
GB +44.2089082217
Technical Contact:
Support, Technical domains@daily.co.uk
9 Regan Way
Chetwynd Business Park
Chilwell
Nottingham, Nottinghamshire NG9 6RR
UK
+44.8454662100 Fax: +44.1159725140



Registration Service Provider:
Daily Internet Services Limited, helpdesk@daily.co.uk
+44.8454662100
+44.8454660102 (fax)
http://www.daily.co.uk



Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 15-Jun-2008.
Record expires on 15-Jun-2010.
Record created on 15-Jun-2008.

Registrar Domain Name Help Center:
http://domainhelp.tucows.com

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.DAILY.CO.UK
NS2.DAILY.CO.UK

http://www.doublecashmaker.com/3.html
Our product is unique.

Can anybody that you know ,double your money in 2 weeks?Our competition say they can ...

seeing is believing.

We can double your cash !On a investment between £100 to £1000,we will double it in 2 weeks! On a investment between £1000 to £3000 WE CAN DOUBLE IT IN A MONTH!!

Chalenge us!

donnelly@doublecashmaker.com

[Scam Exposer]

An incredible boast by a fraudulent lying scammer:

http://www.visionfinance08.com/id47.html

We offer ,what nobody else ,can even dream of offering.We promise and we will deliver. Our range of investments is aimed to bring you financial wealth.We don't ask you to do any work ,and your profits are tax free.

Short term, 3 weeks investment-For investments between £750 to £1500.After 3 weeks we'll pay you 75% on the top of your initial investment.

Medium term, 6 months investment-For investments between £3000 to £5000.We offer you a return of 21% a month.

Long term,12 months investment-For investments between,£5000 to £10 000. We offer you a return of 7,5% per week.

Special Tailored Investments,subject to previous agreement.

DOUBLE YOUR MONEY IN 10 DAYS!! For investments between £100 to £1000

Before investing please check the TAX LAW in your country.

[MurphyLaw]

[Scam Exposer]