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urinefacewash
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
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| JFK wrote: | | urinefacewash wrote: | | JFK wrote: | | urinefacewash wrote: | i'm writing something at the moment of post-traumatic subjectivity and indifference and this cropped up in my research:
| Quote: | | The lesson is thus the old Lacanian one: there is no big Other. The first to get it was Job - after Job is hit by calamities, his theological friends come, offering interpretations which render these calamities meaningful, and the greatness of Job is not so much to protest his innocence as to insist on the meaninglessness of his calamities (when God appears afterwards, he gives right to Job against the theological defenders of faith). The function of the three theological friends is to obfuscate the impact of the trauma with a symbolic semblance. |
are the 9/11 Fetishists not doing precisely the same thing as Job's theological friends... you seek to find the big Other- to point the finger of blame at some transcendent yet always efficiently immanent- in order to render the trauma of the 9/11 atrocity into something less than what it was... let's be clear...
9/11 was not a historical event, it did not produce a new world... 9/11 was not 9/11, which is just a media brand, the fact that these fetishists go along with it shows just how little they care for Truth, even as they nominate it as their's
what happened on the 19th of September 2001 was a pathetic, obsene, (and in the strict Freudian sense) perverted act of meaningless brutality... as much as it was an act of despair it was also, even more so, an act of absolute cowardice and naked murder
the attack of the twin towers was a real and powerful trauma to the American population... these fetishists are effectively slapping traumatised people about the face and telling them to snap out of it...which is simply not on |
Actually it was the families of the victims which were the most traumatized which first started slapping faces resulting in the farce called the "911 commision report", the leaders of which stated after the fact that they"were set up to fail". |
nice shift of responsibility
they may have found failures, omissions and errancy in the report but did they jump to your ridiculous "the government dun it" conclusions?
i am yet to see anyone answer my one question to you fetishists... do you have solid evidence the US Government or a cabal therein plotted and had the 9/11 attacks carried out?
if not all you have is those same failures, omissions and errantsies |
What we have proof of is that the "official story" is just that... A story.
We want the truth. |
which is to say you have no reason to jump to ideas about the US government being actively involved in plotting and carrying out the attacks of the 11th of September
i'll keep reiterating this point: why open up a space of doubt about the offiical version of events simply to shut down the open space of doubt |
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JFK
Joined: 26 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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| urinefacewash wrote: | | JFK wrote: | | urinefacewash wrote: | | JFK wrote: | | urinefacewash wrote: | i'm writing something at the moment of post-traumatic subjectivity and indifference and this cropped up in my research:
| Quote: | | The lesson is thus the old Lacanian one: there is no big Other. The first to get it was Job - after Job is hit by calamities, his theological friends come, offering interpretations which render these calamities meaningful, and the greatness of Job is not so much to protest his innocence as to insist on the meaninglessness of his calamities (when God appears afterwards, he gives right to Job against the theological defenders of faith). The function of the three theological friends is to obfuscate the impact of the trauma with a symbolic semblance. |
are the 9/11 Fetishists not doing precisely the same thing as Job's theological friends... you seek to find the big Other- to point the finger of blame at some transcendent yet always efficiently immanent- in order to render the trauma of the 9/11 atrocity into something less than what it was... let's be clear...
9/11 was not a historical event, it did not produce a new world... 9/11 was not 9/11, which is just a media brand, the fact that these fetishists go along with it shows just how little they care for Truth, even as they nominate it as their's
what happened on the 19th of September 2001 was a pathetic, obsene, (and in the strict Freudian sense) perverted act of meaningless brutality... as much as it was an act of despair it was also, even more so, an act of absolute cowardice and naked murder
the attack of the twin towers was a real and powerful trauma to the American population... these fetishists are effectively slapping traumatised people about the face and telling them to snap out of it...which is simply not on |
Actually it was the families of the victims which were the most traumatized which first started slapping faces resulting in the farce called the "911 commision report", the leaders of which stated after the fact that they"were set up to fail". |
nice shift of responsibility
they may have found failures, omissions and errancy in the report but did they jump to your ridiculous "the government dun it" conclusions?
i am yet to see anyone answer my one question to you fetishists... do you have solid evidence the US Government or a cabal therein plotted and had the 9/11 attacks carried out?
if not all you have is those same failures, omissions and errantsies |
What we have proof of is that the "official story" is just that... A story.
We want the truth. |
which is to say you have no reason to jump to ideas about the US government being actively involved in plotting and carrying out the attacks of the 11th of September
i'll keep reiterating this point: why open up a space of doubt about the offiical version of events simply to shut down the open space of doubt |
Simple, because the official documentation of the events of 911 contradicts the official story told to the people. |
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ThePenguin
Joined: 07 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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| urinefacewash wrote: | | JFK wrote: | | urinefacewash wrote: | | JFK wrote: | | urinefacewash wrote: | i'm writing something at the moment of post-traumatic subjectivity and indifference and this cropped up in my research:
| Quote: | | The lesson is thus the old Lacanian one: there is no big Other. The first to get it was Job - after Job is hit by calamities, his theological friends come, offering interpretations which render these calamities meaningful, and the greatness of Job is not so much to protest his innocence as to insist on the meaninglessness of his calamities (when God appears afterwards, he gives right to Job against the theological defenders of faith). The function of the three theological friends is to obfuscate the impact of the trauma with a symbolic semblance. |
are the 9/11 Fetishists not doing precisely the same thing as Job's theological friends... you seek to find the big Other- to point the finger of blame at some transcendent yet always efficiently immanent- in order to render the trauma of the 9/11 atrocity into something less than what it was... let's be clear...
9/11 was not a historical event, it did not produce a new world... 9/11 was not 9/11, which is just a media brand, the fact that these fetishists go along with it shows just how little they care for Truth, even as they nominate it as their's
what happened on the 19th of September 2001 was a pathetic, obsene, (and in the strict Freudian sense) perverted act of meaningless brutality... as much as it was an act of despair it was also, even more so, an act of absolute cowardice and naked murder
the attack of the twin towers was a real and powerful trauma to the American population... these fetishists are effectively slapping traumatised people about the face and telling them to snap out of it...which is simply not on |
Actually it was the families of the victims which were the most traumatized which first started slapping faces resulting in the farce called the "911 commision report", the leaders of which stated after the fact that they"were set up to fail". |
nice shift of responsibility
they may have found failures, omissions and errancy in the report but did they jump to your ridiculous "the government dun it" conclusions?
i am yet to see anyone answer my one question to you fetishists... do you have solid evidence the US Government or a cabal therein plotted and had the 9/11 attacks carried out?
if not all you have is those same failures, omissions and errantsies |
What we have proof of is that the "official story" is just that... A story.
We want the truth. |
which is to say you have no reason to jump to ideas about the US government being actively involved in plotting and carrying out the attacks of the 11th of September
i'll keep reiterating this point: why open up a space of doubt about the offiical version of events simply to shut down the open space of doubt |
I haven't seen a single scrap of real evidence for Arabs carrying out those attacks, but I'v eseen plenty that punches whopping great big holes in the many hundreds of outright lies of the official story pushed by the Bush Administration.
I'll keep reiterating the point; the official story obviously doesn't work,. so why do you continually defend such utter nonnsense? Are you an idiot????  |
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flame
Joined: 23 Dec 2007
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Location: Between paradigms
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| ThePenguin wrote: | | urinefacewash wrote: | | JFK wrote: | | urinefacewash wrote: | | JFK wrote: | | urinefacewash wrote: | i'm writing something at the moment of post-traumatic subjectivity and indifference and this cropped up in my research:
| Quote: | | The lesson is thus the old Lacanian one: there is no big Other. The first to get it was Job - after Job is hit by calamities, his theological friends come, offering interpretations which render these calamities meaningful, and the greatness of Job is not so much to protest his innocence as to insist on the meaninglessness of his calamities (when God appears afterwards, he gives right to Job against the theological defenders of faith). The function of the three theological friends is to obfuscate the impact of the trauma with a symbolic semblance. |
are the 9/11 Fetishists not doing precisely the same thing as Job's theological friends... you seek to find the big Other- to point the finger of blame at some transcendent yet always efficiently immanent- in order to render the trauma of the 9/11 atrocity into something less than what it was... let's be clear...
9/11 was not a historical event, it did not produce a new world... 9/11 was not 9/11, which is just a media brand, the fact that these fetishists go along with it shows just how little they care for Truth, even as they nominate it as their's
what happened on the 19th of September 2001 was a pathetic, obsene, (and in the strict Freudian sense) perverted act of meaningless brutality... as much as it was an act of despair it was also, even more so, an act of absolute cowardice and naked murder
the attack of the twin towers was a real and powerful trauma to the American population... these fetishists are effectively slapping traumatised people about the face and telling them to snap out of it...which is simply not on |
Actually it was the families of the victims which were the most traumatized which first started slapping faces resulting in the farce called the "911 commision report", the leaders of which stated after the fact that they"were set up to fail". |
nice shift of responsibility
they may have found failures, omissions and errancy in the report but did they jump to your ridiculous "the government dun it" conclusions?
i am yet to see anyone answer my one question to you fetishists... do you have solid evidence the US Government or a cabal therein plotted and had the 9/11 attacks carried out?
if not all you have is those same failures, omissions and errantsies |
What we have proof of is that the "official story" is just that... A story.
We want the truth. |
which is to say you have no reason to jump to ideas about the US government being actively involved in plotting and carrying out the attacks of the 11th of September
i'll keep reiterating this point: why open up a space of doubt about the offiical version of events simply to shut down the open space of doubt |
I haven't seen a single scrap of real evidence for Arabs carrying out those attacks, but I'v eseen plenty that punches whopping great big holes in the many hundreds of outright lies of the official story pushed by the Bush Administration.
I'll keep reiterating the point; the official story obviously doesn't work,. so why do you continually defend such utter nonnsense? Are you an idiot???? |
He's smarter than you.
Believe it! |
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weeowen
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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Scarily so! Smarter than all of us, i fear!
Lets burn him at the stake! |
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weeowen
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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Scarily so! Smarter than all of us, I suspect!
Let's burn him at the stake! |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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| JFK wrote: | | .? wrote: | the pentagon was hit by a plane
it would have been impossible to stage a conspiracy when thousands of people drive past every hour every day |
If it was, why do they not release the tapes ?
There are 85 which came up "responsive" to a FOIA request asking for video footage of the pentagon impact.
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but you are utterly incapable of answering how teh event could have been staged with so many tens of thousands of witnesses passing by every day
how come nobody spotted people dumping large bits of plane about
how come no one reported anyone dumping bloodied body parts
how come no on has come forward to say they say people lopping off lamp posts
how come no one has come forward to say they say workmen gouging plane marks into the pentagon walls
your crap is so easy to debunk - its kids stuff |
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flame
Joined: 23 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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| weeowen wrote: | Scarily so! Smarter than all of us, I suspect!
Let's burn him at the stake! |
Yeah.
Let's get the bastard!   |
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weeowen
Joined: 21 Apr 2008
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| flame wrote: | | weeowen wrote: | Scarily so! Smarter than all of us, I suspect!
Let's burn him at the stake! |
Yeah.
Let's get the bastard! |
Yay! It's mob-o-clock! I'll fetch the burning brands, you grab the pitch-forks! |
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flame
Joined: 23 Dec 2007
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| weeowen wrote: | | flame wrote: | | weeowen wrote: | Scarily so! Smarter than all of us, I suspect!
Let's burn him at the stake! |
Yeah.
Let's get the bastard! |
Yay! It's mob-o-clock! I'll fetch the burning brands, you grab the pitch-forks! |
*grabs pitchfork and flaming torch*
The palace gates are over yonder,come on!
UF,your demise is at hand,you scurrilous charlatan.  |
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JFK
Joined: 26 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| .? wrote: | | JFK wrote: | | .? wrote: | the pentagon was hit by a plane
it would have been impossible to stage a conspiracy when thousands of people drive past every hour every day |
If it was, why do they not release the tapes ?
There are 85 which came up "responsive" to a FOIA request asking for video footage of the pentagon impact.
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but you are utterly incapable of answering how teh event could have been staged with so many tens of thousands of witnesses passing by every day
how come nobody spotted people dumping large bits of plane about
how come no one reported anyone dumping bloodied body parts
how come no on has come forward to say they say people lopping off lamp posts
how come no one has come forward to say they say workmen gouging plane marks into the pentagon walls
your crap is so easy to debunk - its kids stuff |
ROTFLMAO, It's not my crap you need to debunk, it's the official documents which have been released via FOIA requests.
Perhaps if you researched some of those you would not appear like a raving luanatic.
BTW, You have debunked nothing..... Nor have I stated any of my own "theories" of what happened at the Pentagon because that is all the that is... theories.
Now, how did a 767 make that impossible spiral prior to impacting the Pentagon ?
Come on, let's see your math you pretty fart smeller. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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cone on then JFK
in your own time why dont you explain to me how the pentagon was staged
start with the simple questions i have posed above
*waits patiently* |
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Last eastender
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Conspiracy theories=yawn. |
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flame
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Last eastender wrote: | | Conspiracy theories=yawn. |
Indeed. |
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JFK
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| .? wrote: | cone on then JFK
in your own time why dont you explain to me how the pentagon was staged
start with the simple questions i have posed above
*waits patiently* |
That is not my job... That is a job for an independent investigation.
perhaps you will be interested in the official data which contradicts the official story which was released via FOIA request from the government.
Right click and save as....
84 RADES data and software
http://aal77.com/rades/rades.september11.iso
http://aal77.com/rades/rades.wtc.iso
http://aal77.com/rades/rades.pentagon.iso
http://aal77.com/rades/rades.ual93.iso
Flight Data recorder
http://aal77.com/ntsb/aal77.ual93.ntsb.records.iso
NORAD audio - Put the following in the same directory.
http://aal77.com/norad/Norad%20Audio%20Tool.ace ( use winrar )
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%202%20MCC%20Op.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%203%20MCC%20TK.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%204%20ID%20Op.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%205%20ID%20TK.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%207%20ID2%20OP.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%208%20ID2%20TK.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%2010%20TT%20TK.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%2012%20ACWO%20TK.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%2014%20TT%20TK.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%2015%20AST%20Op.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%2016%20AST%20TK.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%2017%20TT%20Op.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%2018%20TT%20TK.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%2019%20SD2%20OP.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM2%20DAT1%20Channel%2020%20SD2%20TK.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%2021%20TT%20Op.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%2024%20AICC.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM3%20DAT2%20Channel%2024%20Emerg-AICC.wav
For determining aircraft turn rates
http://www.csgnetwork.com/aircraftturninfocalc.html
Also something you should be aware of...
[quote]On January 29, 2008, a Complaint for Injunctive Relief was filed with the United States District Court for the Western District of Tennessee located in Memphis, Tennessee against the following defendants:
NATIONAL TRANSPORTATION
SAFETY BOARD
490 L’Enfant Plaza, SW
Washington, DC 20594-0001
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20530-0001
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
1200 New Jersey Ave, SE
Washington, DC 20590.
The Complaint seeks records pertaining to the recovery and custody of the flight data recorder from American Airlines Flight 77 from the NTSB and FBI, and a copy of the original serial bit stream (binary 1’s and 0’s) in waveform format. It further seeks the radar data from Andrews AFB, Dulles and Reagan International Airports in the custody of the FAA, the Sheraton Hotel and other videos which the FBI has in its custody and have delayed the release of.
This is an action by a private citizen under the Freedom of Information Act and will require considerable resources to complete satisfactorily. Donations (DONATE button on sidebar) are critical and greatly appreciated to help with the court costs and expenses involved in discovery and related motions.
Copy of Complaint filed with the Court - http://aal77.com/foia_complaint/08cv02051_complaint.pdf
June 11, 2008 Update
On June 10, 2008 an attorney for the FBI contacted me by phone to inform me that she was working on the release of various videos in their possession. She stated that she wanted to clarify which videos I was most interested in and would be compiling a list which she would forward to me once approved by her supervisor.
Pinnacle has also recieved an information release from the FAA on June 10, 2008.
Good luck, should you decide to use your brain for once. |
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Last eastender
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My local corner shop ran out of milk today!
It must be a zionist neo-con plot to kill all cows and exterminate all humans apart from the selected few who are going to hide in their underground cities in the Nevada desert.
It must be! IT MUST BE!!! |
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flame
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Last eastender wrote: | My local corner shop ran out of milk today!
It must be a zionist neo-con plot to kill all cows and exterminate all humans apart from the selected few who are going to hide in their underground cities in the Nevada desert.
It must be! IT MUST BE!!! |
I imagine Penguin could offer some cut-and-pastes to that effect. |
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Last eastender
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The summer has been a bit shit this year, it must be the Americans and Russians using HAARP technology to change the weather.
It must be true.
*Not that Britain tends to have changeable weather like?? |
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JFK
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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| flame wrote: | | Last eastender wrote: | | Conspiracy theories=yawn. |
Indeed. |
Yeah, I know it is much more fun blowing up brown people....
Speaking of which....
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UaS2bRGS86c
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weeowen
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| JFK wrote: | ... Now, how did a 767 make that impossible spiral prior to impacting the Pentagon ?
Come on, let's see your math you pretty fart smeller. |
To be fair, you'ce not exactly put up the "math" to show that it is impossible.
Thus, your statement is as much conjecture as the next.
Pointless. |
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JFK
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| weeowen wrote: | | JFK wrote: | ... Now, how did a 767 make that impossible spiral prior to impacting the Pentagon ?
Come on, let's see your math you pretty fart smeller. |
To be fair, you'ce not exactly put up the "math" to show that it is impossible.
Thus, your statement is as much conjecture as the next.
Pointless. |
Actually I did in another thread... Keep up will ya ?  |
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weeowen
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| JFK wrote: | | weeowen wrote: | | JFK wrote: | ... Now, how did a 767 make that impossible spiral prior to impacting the Pentagon ?
Come on, let's see your math you pretty fart smeller. |
To be fair, you'ce not exactly put up the "math" to show that it is impossible.
Thus, your statement is as much conjecture as the next.
Pointless. |
Actually I did in another thread... Keep up will ya ? |
Be a good fellow, for all us thread-defficient people, and pop up a link to your supporting statements then in future.
It'd be helpful by the way if said links don't turn out to be to obscure "vested interest" sites, but independantly verified academic sites. |
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JFK
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| weeowen wrote: | | JFK wrote: | | weeowen wrote: | | JFK wrote: | ... Now, how did a 767 make that impossible spiral prior to impacting the Pentagon ?
Come on, let's see your math you pretty fart smeller. |
To be fair, you'ce not exactly put up the "math" to show that it is impossible.
Thus, your statement is as much conjecture as the next.
Pointless. |
Actually I did in another thread... Keep up will ya ? |
Be a good fellow, for all us thread-defficient people, and pop up a link to your supporting statements then in future.
It'd be helpful by the way if said links don't turn out to be to obscure "vested interest" sites, but independantly verified academic sites. |
FFS, here is your support :
[quote="JFK"]
perhaps you will be interested in the official data which contradicts the official story which was released via FOIA request from the government.
Right click and save as....
84 RADES data and software
http://aal77.com/rades/rades.september11.iso
http://aal77.com/rades/rades.wtc.iso
http://aal77.com/rades/rades.pentagon.iso
http://aal77.com/rades/rades.ual93.iso
Flight Data recorder
http://aal77.com/ntsb/aal77.ual93.ntsb.records.iso
NORAD audio - Put the following in the same directory.
http://aal77.com/norad/Norad%20Audio%20Tool.ace ( use winrar )
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%202%20MCC%20Op.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%203%20MCC%20TK.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%204%20ID%20Op.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%205%20ID%20TK.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%207%20ID2%20OP.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%208%20ID2%20TK.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%2010%20TT%20TK.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%2012%20ACWO%20TK.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%2014%20TT%20TK.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%2015%20AST%20Op.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%2016%20AST%20TK.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%2017%20TT%20Op.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%2018%20TT%20TK.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%2019%20SD2%20OP.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM2%20DAT1%20Channel%2020%20SD2%20TK.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%2021%20TT%20Op.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM1%20DAT2%20Channel%2024%20AICC.wav
http://aal77.com/norad/DRM3%20DAT2%20Channel%2024%20Emerg-AICC.wav
For determining aircraft turn rates
http://www.csgnetwork.com/aircraftturninfocalc.html
Also something you should be aware of...
| Quote: | On January 29, 2008, a Complaint for Injunctive Relief was filed with the United States District Court for the Western District of Tennessee located in Memphis, Tennessee against the following defendants:
NATIONAL TRANSPORTATION
SAFETY BOARD
490 L’Enfant Plaza, SW
Washington, DC 20594-0001
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20530-0001
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
1200 New Jersey Ave, SE
Washington, DC 20590.
The Complaint seeks records pertaining to the recovery and custody of the flight data recorder from American Airlines Flight 77 from the NTSB and FBI, and a copy of the original serial bit stream (binary 1’s and 0’s) in waveform format. It further seeks the radar data from Andrews AFB, Dulles and Reagan International Airports in the custody of the FAA, the Sheraton Hotel and other videos which the FBI has in its custody and have delayed the release of.
This is an action by a private citizen under the Freedom of Information Act and will require considerable resources to complete satisfactorily. Donations (DONATE button on sidebar) are critical and greatly appreciated to help with the court costs and expenses involved in discovery and related motions.
Copy of Complaint filed with the Court - http://aal77.com/foia_complaint/08cv02051_complaint.pdf
June 11, 2008 Update
On June 10, 2008 an attorney for the FBI contacted me by phone to inform me that she was working on the release of various videos in their possession. She stated that she wanted to clarify which videos I was most interested in and would be compiling a list which she would forward to me once approved by her supervisor.
Pinnacle has also recieved an information release from the FAA on June 10, 2008.
Good luck, should you decide to use your brain for once. |
Do the math yourself and let us know your results. |
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| JFK wrote: | | flame wrote: | | Last eastender wrote: | | Conspiracy theories=yawn. |
Indeed. |
Yeah, I know it is much more fun blowing up brown people....
Speaking of which....
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UaS2bRGS86c
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I've never blown anyone up. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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| JFK wrote: | | .? wrote: | cone on then JFK
in your own time why dont you explain to me how the pentagon was staged
start with the simple questions i have posed above
*waits patiently* |
That is not my job... That is a job for an independent investigation.
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so you are not able to explain any of the most simple questions i have raised
you regirgitate conspiracy nonsense that is totally exposed as being nonsense by your failure to answer the questions above
game over - you lose
next............. |
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