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moody_blue
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wow username.... are you trying to tempt bk into considering it? Hehe  |
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seeker099
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:03 pm Post subject: Hi |
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I dont see how prostitution equates to rape and beating women and children? Morals are subjective, so what you find offensive, others find acceptable. Some tribes in the congo marry as young as 12, but in the western world that would be child abuse, yet we dont go in guns blazing enforcing our morals. That is why morals should not be the sole basis of law, as morals are dictated by beliefs and religion. Both of which have no place in a structured debate.
I think if a woman or man wants to have sex for money then let them do so, as long as its there decision and no harm comes to either party. After all how many people marry or have relationships for money alone (gold digger). Many people both men and women regularly will have one night stands with strangers, shall we call them abused too? or is it only when money is envolved.
Too say that all women envolved are drug adicts, abused and or there because their forced into it is factually wrong. Yes of course them industry in Ireland is a seedy and dangerous one, but thats nothing to do with 'paying for sex' being morally wrong, but rather the crimals envolved, and to be honest to have such an aggression opinion on it says more about your state of mind and an unhealthy regard for sex and womens sexuality in general. I suppose next you'll say you dont masturbate and never looked at porn?
Alot of places in the modern world run legal prostitution and the majority of woman are there through free will. Both in europe and America.
If we really were concerned about these women in Ireland, we would legalise it, but instead our 'morals' keep these women tied to vicious pimps and organised crime, giving drug addicts a there next fix while getting std's and allowing the use of children in these brothels. All of which is there because its not regulated.
If that is what keeps smug moralistic people asleep at night, you can keep your morals. |
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username22
Joined: 24 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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N0ow awaiting a barrage of abuse from the Birmingham area!  |
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username22
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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| moody_blue wrote: | | wow username.... are you trying to tempt bk into considering it? Hehe |
No chance........
At 19 he's missing he's missing two essentials factors.
No balls and minimal sexual experience!
hahahaha...........he wouldn;t make any money! |
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moody_blue
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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hahaha I'm enjoying this thread now!  |
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BrummyLad
Joined: 07 Jan 2009
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lol here i come
Ok yes, it brings money, however i know im young etc etc, but this is what is f**king everything up, all anyone is interested in anymore is money, money money.
I can guarrenty, i would put my life on it that the majority of those women you drove around had been raped or participated in something theydidnt want to during there escort carear however the thing that drives them on is once again MONEY, if they spoke out i am guessing it would damage there carear yes or no?.
People need to look seriously into there own lives, i guess i say this is because ive been at rock bottem, seriously rock bottem even though im only 19, maybe everyone needs this to happen to them to truly admire the RIGHT things in life.
I and im sure many other people agree with me do not like the escort services, why does anyone feel the need to do these type of things.
If all you want is sex (this is to men) then stay single, sleep with other birds who want the same thing. You shouldnt have to pay for it, both particpants should experience it in the same way.
Im single, and even when im broke as hell i still seem to manage to sleep with a few birds (attractive ofcourse lol) without having to pay and then think to myself, man i must be really scummy if i have to pay for sex.
It just degrades both sides of the gender, the women sell there body and the men just atthemselves up inside.
Its just not right in anyway and i fail to see in anyway it is, what because of the money and flash car?
Who needs a flash car when you cant drive it above 70?
I mean come on, seriously either way you look at it, it aint right. |
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seeker099
Joined: 09 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Hey com'on, his heart is in the right place and he is only 19. Dont be ganging up now, its not like he wanted to harm women, he just has a different if somewhat virulent view point. |
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BrummyLad
Joined: 07 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: Hi |
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| seeker099 wrote: | I dont see how prostitution equates to rape and beating women and children? Morals are subjective, so what you find offensive, others find acceptable. Some tribes in the congo marry as young as 12, but in the western world that would be child abuse, yet we dont go in guns blazing enforcing our morals. That is why morals should not be the sole basis of law, as morals are dictated by beliefs and religion. Both of which have no place in a structured debate.
I think if a woman or man wants to have sex for money then let them do so, as long as its there decision and no harm comes to either party. After all how many people marry or have relationships for money alone (gold digger). Many people both men and women regularly will have one night stands with strangers, shall we call them abused too? or is it only when money is envolved.
Too say that all women envolved are drug adicts, abused and or there because their forced into it is factually wrong. Yes of course them industry in Ireland is a seedy and dangerous one, but thats nothing to do with 'paying for sex' being morally wrong, but rather the crimals envolved, and to be honest to have such an aggression opinion on it says more about your state of mind and an unhealthy regard for sex and womens sexuality in general. I suppose next you'll say you dont masturbate and never looked at porn?
Alot of places in the modern world run legal prostitution and the majority of woman are there through free will. Both in europe and America.
If we really were concerned about these women in Ireland, we would legalise it, but instead our 'morals' keep these women tied to vicious pimps and organised crime, giving drug addicts a there next fix while getting std's and allowing the use of children in these brothels. All of which is there because its not regulated.
If that is what keeps smug moralistic people asleep at night, you can keep your morals. |
Probebley might come to a shock to you but no since the age of 17 (since i was able to get into clubs) and wised up, ive never jacked off to porn, i dont need to...all you need to do is explain to the girl your situation like me, i just simply say i aint looking for nothing just for some nsa how about you (obviously not the firstliner, think i might get a smack in the jaw for just sproutng that out lol), if she agrees of we go to my place for some fun and everyones happy.
No one feels degraded, no one has to beat themselves up.
Ok it might be a different subject for ugly and fat blokes but still no reason to pay for sex. |
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username22
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| BrummyLad wrote: | lol here i come
Ok yes, it brings money, however i know im young etc etc, but this is what is f**king everything up, all anyone is interested in anymore is money, money money.
I can guarrenty, i would put my life on it that the majority of those women you drove around had been raped or participated in something theydidnt want to during there escort carear however the thing that drives them on is once again MONEY, if they spoke out i am guessing it would damage there carear yes or no?.
People need to look seriously into there own lives, i guess i say this is because ive been at rock bottem, seriously rock bottem even though im only 19, maybe everyone needs this to happen to them to truly admire the RIGHT things in life.
I and im sure many other people agree with me do not like the escort services, why does anyone feel the need to do these type of things.
If all you want is sex (this is to men) then stay single, sleep with other birds who want the same thing. You shouldnt have to pay for it, both particpants should experience it in the same way.
Im single, and even when im broke as hell i still seem to manage to sleep with a few birds (attractive ofcourse lol) without having to pay and then think to myself, man i must be really scummy if i have to pay for sex.
It just degrades both sides of the gender, the women sell there body and the men just atthemselves up inside.
Its just not right in anyway and i fail to see in anyway it is, what because of the money and flash car?
Who needs a flash car when you cant drive it above 70?
I mean come on, seriously either way you look at it, it aint right. |
Ok BrummyLad...........I'm warming to you once again!
The problem here is nothing to do with the subject (escorts). The problem here is that you are applying your beliefs to everyone else. Not everyone will agree with you, no matter what you say/think or do. Your views are as important/unimportant as mine and there is nothing either of us can do to convince others we are right............so why bother?
Just let people decide for themselves.
Escorting............it exists............ love it or hate it...........FACT |
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username22
Joined: 24 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: Hi |
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if she agrees of we go to my place for some fun and everyones happy.
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Surely you mean Mummy and Daddy's place? You mean you lie to these girls?
Morals????? |
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BrummyLad
Joined: 07 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| And we come to the end of the subject, diplomacy just doesnt work lol. |
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BrummyLad
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: Hi |
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| username22 wrote: | | BrummyLad wrote: |
if she agrees of we go to my place for some fun and everyones happy.
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Surely you mean Mummy and Daddy's place? You mean you lie to these girls?
Morals????? |
lol, ok i told a wee porky, we usually end up going back to there place if my house isnt free
Hey come on there 30 year olds still unable to afford to move out lol |
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seeker099
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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I hear what your saying but again, just to say 'its just not right' does not make it so. Why is it 'scummy'? why is it wrong? Why is it ok to sleep around consentually and not if money changes hands. And of course escorts have to do things they dont want to do, thats why they get paid €350 an hour. But then again janitors and nurses have to do things they dont like either. I gather you must be very religious or something, as i dont see how money in itself is an evil.
What this comes down too is the right of a person to consentually have sex for money, where both parties have free will and no harm is brought to bare on either, as opposed others who want to stop them due to beliefs religion, morals etc.
Honestly a guy paying an escort €4500 for a night in an upper class hotel! and shes the one being taken advantage of! |
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seeker099
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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Heres a thought for you all.
If men we able to get money from women to have sex, in the same quantity as women do now. How many men do you think would actually be working in proper jobs?
My guess is that the world would be awash with male prostitutes and morals would be a brand of flavoured condoms. |
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username22
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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hahahahaha.............
We'd be undercut and forced out of business by the foreigners! |
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username22
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| BrummyLad wrote: | lol here i come
Ok yes, it brings money, however i know im young etc etc, but this is what is f**king everything up, all anyone is interested in anymore is money, money money.
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Are you enjoying being out of work?
Having no money????
I certainly ain't!
If I was a pretty girl and found myself in the situation I am currently in, I would certainly look seriously at a few hundred pounds an hour! |
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NATIONALEXPRESS
Joined: 10 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:08 pm Post subject: MALE ESCORT |
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i would like to become a male escort but all the sites online are scams i think
send money get nothing that kind of thing so how do you go about finding something genuine  anyone here ever done it or give me some ideas
im 26 single guy and well looking to earn some money i guess as part time kinda things
Thank Q |
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BrummyLad
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| seeker099 wrote: | I hear what your saying but again, just to say 'its just not right' does not make it so. Why is it 'scummy'? why is it wrong? Why is it ok to sleep around consentually and not if money changes hands. And of course escorts have to do things they dont want to do, thats why they get paid €350 an hour. But then again janitors and nurses have to do things they dont like either. I gather you must be very religious or something, as i dont see how money in itself is an evil.
What this comes down too is the right of a person to consentually have sex for money, where both parties have free will and no harm is brought to bare on either, as opposed others who want to stop them due to beliefs religion, morals etc.
Honestly a guy paying an escort €4500 for a night in an upper class hotel! and shes the one being taken advantage of! |
I go back to something i said earlier, if you paid me 10,000 pound to kill someone you want dead, is it right?
f it even takes you longer then a mili second answer that you seriously ether need a good decking or everything in your life atm to fall apar. |
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BrummyLad
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| username22 wrote: | | BrummyLad wrote: | lol here i come
Ok yes, it brings money, however i know im young etc etc, but this is what is f**king everything up, all anyone is interested in anymore is money, money money.
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Are you enjoying being out of work?
Having no money????
I certainly ain't!
If I was a pretty girl and found myself in the situation I am currently in, I would certainly look seriously at a few hundred pounds an hour! |
Ok i can look at it from that point of view, if you were a single girl with no attachments. However not to badmouth bluey but 2 kids!
Hey seather how proud wul you be of your mum when you find out he use to sell her body for money?
May be ok with any girl who is NEVER going to have kids, |
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BrummyLad
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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AAaaahhhhhhh jesus christ, whee are the missing letters!
Anywho my final say is, escorting is wrong end of, if you cannot get a bird without having to pay for it you really need to look at yourself!
I guess the 60's actually is here, well in most of the people who responded, ie there bloodstram.
Next your tell me drugs are OK! |
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BrummyLad
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AAaaahhhhhhh jesus christ, whee are the missing letters!
Anywho my final say is, escorting is wrong end of, if you cannot get a bird without having to pay for it you really need to look at yourself!
I guess the 60's actually is here, well in most of the people who responded, ie there bloodstram.
Next your tell me drugs are OK! |
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seeker099
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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I dont see why you keep associating murder/rape with prostitution? Using your own analogy, "would it be right to kill somebody for money", well under your beliefs no, but under your beliefs it would be once money did not exchange hands! If fact as you say just go up to somebody and ask "do you want to die nsa" and if they say yes, then its fine. But would be wrong if its paid for.
Actually if both are consenting and each are of sound mind and no one is being forced, and one wants to die for what ever reason, then yes i would have no problem there. A point being Euthanasia . |
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username22
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| BrummyLad wrote: |
Anywho my final say is, escorting is wrong end of, if you cannot get a bird without having to pay for it you really need to look at yourself!
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Brummy Lad............
Fistly, this comment of you'rs is totally irrelevent as we are not discussing the "punter" here, and even if we were we all have to choice how we spend our money.
Secondly, you have bashed on about how it is "wrong" but you haven't given any sensible reason as to why. Simply comparing it to murder, rape, genocide or whatever other stupid comparison you dream up does nothing for your case other than making you look stupid.
So Brummy Lad, how about a well thought out and logical reason why escorting is wrong?? |
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username22
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| BrummyLad wrote: |
Next your tell me drugs are OK!
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Drugs are illegal, escorting isn't!
If you going to use comparisons then use fair comparisons, ones that genuinely do compare. |
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moody_blue
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| Erm, Brummyboy, read bk on what you've written. Or better still, what i've written! I HAVE NO INTENTION OF SOLICITING!!!!!!!!!!!! But you know what if it were a choice of keeping a roof over my childrens head or not, regardless of whether they would be proud, you can bet your bottom dollar i would do it. You live in a happy lil promiscuous cacoon where mummy n daddy support you. I neither want nor need your surly childish comments. Go away and GROW UP!!! |
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