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Hayley_Samuels



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:26 am    Post subject: SCAM WARNING Reply with quote

I have recently advertised my car for sale on Gumtree. I received an e-mail from a man called Jim Cold including a mobile telephone number and asking for more details.

Today I received an e-mail from Jim doing the usual money laundering con of 'I have a client who owes me £3500, he will transfer it into your account and then you can transfer it on'. I've seen watchdog and know this is a con used on ebay so I've blocked Jim's e-mail: jimcold509@yahoo.com.

I would like to warn other people about Jim and check nobody falls for this scam.
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HandyMan06



Joined: 14 Oct 2006
Posts: 23
Location: LonDon

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:12 pm    Post subject: Re: SCAM WARNING Reply with quote

Hayley_Samuels wrote:
I have recently advertised my car for sale on Gumtree. I received an e-mail from a man called Jim Cold including a mobile telephone number and asking for more details.

Today I received an e-mail from Jim doing the usual money laundering con of 'I have a client who owes me £3500, he will transfer it into your account and then you can transfer it on'. I've seen watchdog and know this is a con used on ebay so I've blocked Jim's e-mail: jimcold509@yahoo.com.

I would like to warn other people about Jim and check nobody falls for this scam.


I WOULD ALSO LIKE U TO BE CAREFUL OF THESE PPL EMIL ADDRESS BELOW AND SOME OF THE THINGS THEY SAID


From : JOHN BILLY <johnbilly00@yahoo.co.uk>
Sent : 24 October 2006 15:44:24
Subject: PAYMENT...Ford Escort..
> > > > > >Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:21:20 +0100 (BST)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Hello,
> > > > > > Thanks alot for the
> response,well
> > > have
> > > > > went
> > > > > >through your explanation about the Ford
> > > Escortand i
> > > > > >want you to know that am ready to purchase
> it
> > > from
> > > > > >you,and i will like to tell you that i have
> a
> > > > > personal
> > > > > >Shipping agent that will be responsible for
> the
> > > > > pick
> > > > > >up of the Item,i will pay you by Cheque
> and it
> > > > > will
> > > > > >be issue to you by a client of mine,it will
> > > come in
> > > > > >amount of £3,700 due to my Shipping Agent
> > > Charges
> > > > > for
> > > > > >the Ford Escort and some other goods they
> have
> > > to
> > > > > pick
> > > > > >up for me also,so i dont want you to be
> > > confused,
> > > > > what
> > > > > >i want you to do is to get the Cheque
> deposit
> > > into
> > > > > >your bank account and when it clears in
> your
> > > > > account,i
> > > > > >want you to remove the amount of the Ford
> > > Escort
which
is £400 and assit me in sending the remaining
balance
of the money to my Shipping agent through the
nearest
Western Union Money Transfer Agent in your
area,so
that he can come for the pick up of the Item
with
someother goods he will be pciking up for
me,
so i
want you to now get back to me with your
details
that
will be written on Cheque......Such as

Full name on Cheque..
Contact Address......
City....
State....
zip code...
Mobile&landline Phone number...

Regards,
Paulo

BUT ON THE EMAIL HIS NAME IS From: JOHN BILLY <johnbilly00@yahoo.co.uk>
FUNNY HOW IT SAY REGARDS POULO



From : keith spencer <keith_spencer01@yahoo.com>
Sent : 20 October 2006 16:14:02
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naza911



Joined: 17 Nov 2006
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:07 pm    Post subject: SCAM JOHN BILLY Reply with quote

STAY CLEAR OF THIS MAN. VARY INTERESTING CON. I PUT A BELKIN 54G WIRELESS ADAPTER ON THE NET AND THE SAME DAY I WAS PLEASE TO SEE A REPLY. I EMAILED HIM AND WITHIN 20MINS GOT A REPLY. VERY KEEN HE WAS UNTIL HE SENT ME THE LAST EMAIL LIKE THE FOLLOWING:

Quote:
'Thanks for your mail and for getting back to me,the
Item Price seem's great and I'm interested in
purchasing it .Concerning the shipment,my shipper will
come and pick it up from your location as soon as we
seal this transaction and I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I
WILL WAIT FOR THE CHEQUE TO CLEAR AT YOUR BANK.A
client of mine in the UK is owing me some
funds(£2,000)I will instruct him to issue the cheque
in your name and You will deduct the cost of
the(Item) (£10) when the cheque clear at your bank and
the remaining balance will be send back to my Shipper
via western union money transfer for immediate
shipping arrangment of the Item at your location for
the pick up.If this is okay with you do get back to me
immediately with your information as listed below for
me to instruct my client to issue the cheque in your
name.Hope to hear from you soonest.

NAME ON CHEQUE:
ADDRESS:
CITY:
STATE:
POSTAL CODE:
COUNTRY:
TEL NUMBER:

Best Regards,
Paulo

N.B,I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I WILL WAIT FOR THE
CHEQUE TO CLEAR AT YOUR BANK BEFORE THE SHIPPER COME
FOR THE PICK-UP AT YOUR LOCATION AND ALSO COMPENSATE
YOU WITH £50 FOR YOU TO REMOVE THE ADVERT FROM THE
INTERNET AND CONSIDER IT SOLD TO ME..'




STEER CLEAR OF THIS GUY. ALL I WAS TRYING TO DO WAS TRYING TO GET RID OF SOMETHING BY PUTTING IT ON THE INTERNET. HE HAD ME GOING FOR A BIT. THE LAST EMAIL WAS DODEY. IF YOU GET ANTHING LIKE THIS WHEN YOU ARE SELLING ON THE INTERNET THEN TYPE THIER NAME INTO GOOGLE AND SCAM. YOU SHOULD GET A HIT. ANYTHING LIKE THIS IS NOT WORTH THE HASSLE.
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Hawkeyes



Joined: 17 Nov 2006
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds a bit like this letter.
This guy has been around scamming on the net for quite some time, trying to buy from everyone, everywhere.

He goes under many names and lives various places but he originally lives in Lagos Nigeria.

Quote:
Dear xxxxxx,
We have instruct our client who owe us some money to issue you a cheque and we want to know whether you have received the cheque, he made a mistake by issue you the whole amount he owe us which is more than the amount we are to pay you.
You will do us a favour to transfer the remain balance to our shipper through Western Union Money Transfer, so that he can prepare to collect the remain Art he want to ship to us.
Kindly inform us after the cheque has been clear so that we can give you the name of the shipper . Please inform us as early as possible the cheque cleared or if you can do us a favour by sending some of the money to shipper in advance so that he can fast to collect the remain art and prepared the document for shipping.
Looking forward to hear from you.
With best regards. xxxxx
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katiec



Joined: 22 Nov 2006
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have got the same email

Hello,
How was your day? Thanks for the response. I live in Dublin but I have a contact in UK who will issue you a cheque drawn from GBP Bank and that is the only way to make the payment to you and the cheque will clear to your account 1st before any pick-up. as I am in Spain presently for a business trip as I need to buy goods in my shop as I do sell laptop, tv, bags e.t.c. the cheque that will be sent to you will be from my Client in Uk. So my customer will be sending a cheque of £3000 to you in whom you will deduct the cost price of the laptop which is £350 and let the rest to be sent to my lawyer who will arrange for the pickup of all my goods and the Items in Uk. So the reason why the money on the cheque is too much is that I also have some goods in Uk which the shipment will be handle by my lawyer and you are to send the balance on the cheque to my lawyer so that he can arrange for the shipment’s I believe I can count on you with the balance on the cheque you are to send to my lawyer...so if that is okay by you and I can trust you with the balance on the cheque, Kindly get back to me with your details below needed for the address of the cheque...

YOUR FULL NAME TO BE ON THE CHEQUE..
FULL ADDRESS....
CITY.....
ZIPCODE...
COUNTRY....
TEL NUMBER........
MOBILE NUMBER........
HOME NUMBER.........
OFFICE NUMBER.....
As soon as I receive this detail I will ensure that you receive the cheque in 7 working days. so don’t sell it to another person because am ready to buy it from you okay just be patient with me and you will receive the cheque and Shipment will also be taken care off and the responsibility of the shipping will be borne by me and I believe I can trust you with the balance on the cheque you are to send to my lawyer.
Regards
SMITH
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Lauran1983



Joined: 19 Dec 2006
Posts: 1
Location: Manchester

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:11 pm    Post subject: Scam Reply with quote

Just thought i'd show you this scam, it was advertised on Gumtree, earn some extra cash i was intrigue so i sent an email and this is the responce i got:

From: Susan Groove <susangroove005@yahoo.com

Subject: DETAIL'S AND APPLICATION FORM.
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 14:05:24 -0800 (PST)


Hello laura,

My name is SUSAN GROOVE an artist residing permanently in the
United Kingdom.I have been selling my art works for the last 3 years now
and I have had my work featured on
trading cards, prints and in
magazines.

I have sold in galleries and to private collectors from all around
the world.I am always facing serious difficulties when it comes to
selling my art works to Americans , Australians, Canadians and some
Europeans they are always offering to pay with financial instruments that are
not I am not familiar with,I undergo so much difficulty in converting
them to cash. At the same time, the cost of travelling to the US, Canada
and Australia is not worth it due to the little amount involved in such transactions.
I got your email contact via a job offer website, where your
resume was posted.

I am currently in search of a representative in the US, Canada,
Australia and parts of Europe who will be working for me as a
partime worker and i am willing to pay 10% for every transaction. Someone who
would help me recieve payments from my customers in the states

All you need do is recieve payments for my paintings, convert them
to cash, deduct 10% of the total amount and wire the balance to me .
If you have read and understood my offer, please send me an email
as soon as possible indicating your willingness to work for me.

The email should include a statement of your acceptance of my offer
and your full name address and phone number. For your convinience, a
simple application form is pasted below this offer letter. Please read
carefully, sign and attach to your reply as well.

As soon as I recieve those from you, I will foward your details to
my customers immediately and they
will make arrangements for mailing
you the payment via courier.

I hope to hear from you soon.

Kind Regards

SUSAN GROOVE


My Responce:
Can you send
me information about your company, your trading details, how will i rec've the money, will it be directly into my back account?


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Susan Groove <susangroove005@yahoo.com>

Subject: RE: DETAIL'S AND APPLICATION FORM.
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:52:40 -0800 (PST)



Hello Laura,



I am sorry i just could read your e-mail.
Well...i would not call my Studio a company,its a personal investment,and well its quite big and has branches in specific countrys.
I think my art works are mainly classified,and cost quite a lot too.
As regards your receipt of payment,a bank account is most favourable as that lessens the risk and expenses.
I will wait for your e-mail, informing otherwise if there is any other desirable mode of payment to you.
I wait for your communication.

Regards..


Susan


My responce:
Hi Sue,
Still need to get my head round this, its seems too good to be true! I do have concerns giving my bank account to anybody, so cheque maybe a option for me. Do you not have a bank account? How would i send the cash to yourself?

Regards

Laura


The reply doesnt even seem like its from the same person

Hello laura,

Thank's for your mail.I must tell you this is true and legit.See am human,and i have concience,life is all about trust and i must tell you honesty pays in life.I believe in living a good and honest life,God has blessed me with lovely kids,and all i have promised them is to do what is right and also,be honest in all i do so it will also go well with them.

When you have the fund's i would send you the details of how to send the money,it's almost the end of the year,and my customer's want to pay me,so they can be credit worthy next year.Me doing business with you,based on trust and the fear of God,as far as you do well.You can open a location near you on my behalf and manage it for me.

What bank account do you use? do you have a lloyds bank,or barcleys near you.Do advise and if you prefer check,then you send me your contact details so you can receive the payment,the week is almost gone,and banks would soon be on holidays,and i need money to get new materials for the new year.

Do have a blessed week,Gods guiadance and protection.Merry christmas and a happy new year in advance.

Susan.


In this world you dont get somthing for nothing
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Bipolar Bear
 
 


Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Posts: 176

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its a classic money laundering scam. google is your friend... Rolling Eyes
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Bluey
Community Moderator


Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Posts: 4806

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, pretty standard scam where someone needs an intermediary to process payments for a cut of the action - any product or trade or name or percentage is used but the anatomy of the scam is the same.

http://forums.gumtree.com/topic20796.html

It involves the person sending a fake cheque to the Mugu (fool) who places it in their bank account and sends back genuine funds before the fake check is identified by the bank in the clearing process.

The art/artisan angle is pretty common

http://forums.gumtree.com/topic47293.html
http://forums.gumtree.com/topic46475.html
http://forums.gumtree.com/topic31770.html
http://forums.gumtree.com/topic30732.html

http://www.met.police.uk/fraudalert/news/uspostal.htm

Google 'advance fee fraud' or 419 scam to get an idea of the diversity and cunning that these schemes involve.

Some scamsters will even clone genuine business websites to convince Mugus that their business is real.

Other people enjoy taunting and stringing along the scamsters - here's a good site

http://www.scambuster419.co.uk/
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castlelgr
 
 


Joined: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 45644
Location: southampton

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you are all idiots
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