[eddy231161]

i have been buying since last year.. every week through western union and never ever had any bother ( touch wood )

[Mr ScamUwell]

http://portsmouth.gumtree.com/portsmouth/93/28199993.html

IP: 91.144.161.181 Yoshkar Ola. (scam central)
Googling any email address eg: Vera.Kibareva inbox.ru would help members .

Admin will have the IP on sign up/ registration ,I have no idea why they don't do that prior to letting these assholes loose on their site .

[Mr ScamUwell]

Why do you think companies have brand-names?
Nike,Adidas,Puma,are brand-names ...if you don't make these products under license by the above brand-names you are operating an illegal business .

Note to the consumer:
Suggested payment Via Western Union or Money Gram is a red flag regarding any claims of company credibility .
http://www.egypt.com/coindex/ver_en/company_aboutus.php?company_id=150789

[retod]

never pay with WU. and if you hear nigeria then the bells inside your human alarm system should ring veeery loud.

i am a member of an anti nigerian scam club called 419 eater

http://www.419eater.com/

visit this website, bookmark it, and tell others! there are HUGE informations about nigeria scams, how they work whatsoever.... read the "Letters Archive"
there are many stories how we fu**ed with those scamers. (sometimes they are victims to haha)

cheers

[emily_21]

[tiggerisbigger]

any ojne who gets caught out in a scam like this deserves to be ripped off for being a silly b astard !

[Mr ScamUwell]

Yeah ?? and I bet you are just the sort of creep who would be scammed and feel too stupid to tell anyone about it .
I have seen plenty of comments like that from Mr Know-it-alls like you who with further investigation are probably sending spam from their PC without knowing they are hacked up to the top of their fat heads.

[willsharvey]

Hi,

I've included below my recent correspondence with someone regarding renting an apartment in Oxford. Yes, I was naive and stupid to go as far as I did but it's easier than you think when you don't use these websites often or come across these useful forums beforehand. Luckily I pulled the stops in time.

Will
.....

Hi,
My name is Sandra and I have the flat for rent. The rent is 540 £ per month including all bills and the concil tax. I moved in Milan,Italy because I got a new job. I work in a hospital. You can rent the flat as long as you need to stay even for 2 or 3 years. The first payment will be for 2 months 1080 £.In case you want it, let me know so we can arrange the transaction. For me is very hard to come in UK and if I will come i must be 100% sure that I will not come for nothing. As you can see in the photos everything it's new in the flat and the flat is fully furnished and also benefits from wood flooring. You have internet connection, phone, washing machine with dryer, cable TV and most important parking place.

I wait your response.

Respectfully!
Sandra.
…..

Hi Sandra,

That sounds good to me and I would definitely like to move in and I can arrange payment to you shortly. I am a very reliable tenant and I can provide you with references if you need them. Just a couple of things that I would like to know.

1. Is it possible for a friend of mine in Oxford to have a look at the
place before I move in?
2. I am happy to pay 1080 pounds for the first two months, but I would like to have a formal written contract before I pay that amount of money.
3. Is it okay if I move in on Wednesday 22nd April?
4. How much time notice would you need if I wanted to move out?
Hopefully I will be able to stay in your apartment for three years.

Many thanks and best wishes,

Will
…..

Hi,
I work in a hospital and is very hard for me to come in UK. I can't take the risk to leave my new job for days and when I arrive in UK to see that I come for nothing. I want to be 100% sure that when I will meet you, we do the rent papers then i can come back in Italy.
So i can be sure of that look how we can do:
You make the payment from your name and address to your best friend name and address or viceversa in UK using Western Union for 2 months rent that means 1080 £ and send me the scanned receipt. As soon as I see the scanned receipt that you have made the payment, I will come in UK and you will see the flat and rent it. After that, we will go together at the Western Union office and you will take the money back and pay me.So all you have to do is to find a Western Union office and wire 1080 £ from your name to your friend name or viceversa and send the scanned receipt.I am asking you this to be sure that I do not come in UK for nothing. I hope you understand.
P.S : As I told you,I have a lot of customers interested to rent the apartment. I will reserve the apartment to the first one that provides me the scanned paper from Western Union. As soon as I have the confirmation from Western Union that the money are available on his name I stop the transactions with all the other customers!
In case that you don`t know how to use Western Union, all you have to do is to go at the nearest Western Union office in your city and you talk with an agent to send some money to a kinswoman because you will have to pay a small fee. When you will make the transfer you will have to pay a small fee at Western Union which is around 50 £ that I will deduct it from the total rent.The money will stay in the Western Union system till we will sign the rent papers and both we will go to a Western Union office and you will pick up the money and pay me.
If you accept my conditions I wait your e-mail. I don't want you to feel offended if i'll not answer you in case of a negative answer,because I don't see the reason why we should continue to write eachother,since I will not accept any other way to close the deal.

Respectfully!
Sandra.
…..

Hi Sandra,

Okay, I will do this shortly. If I scan you a receipt of the transfer then it would be helpful after this point if you could provide me with some details about where exactly in Jericho the apartment is, what floor, what's included and when you could come over since I arrive in Oxford from Canada on 22nd April and I don't want to have traveled all that way either and have no place to live.

I will be in touch again soon.

Best wishes,

Will
…..

The rent including all bills and the concil tax. This is the address: 56 Walton Street, Oxford, OX2 6AE.

I wait the receipt soon because I have another interested person.

Regards !
…..

Great. I am going to send you the receipt first thing tomorrow and I have found a Great Western near me.

Best wishes,

Will
…..

Ok Will, when I see the receipt I keep the flat for you.

Regards !
…..

Dear Sandra,

Attached is the Western Union receipt. I have deleted the 10 digit security number on this copy of the receipt for security reasons.

Can you confirm that I have your apartment from mid-April?

Many thanks and best wishes,

Will
…..

And how can I check if the money are available. I want the MTCN and after I will check I keep the flat for you. You can check here on Western Union website..:
https://wumt.westernunion.com/asp/orderStatus.asp?country=global

If you don't want please tell me soon because I have another interested person.

I wait your e-mail with the MTCN..
…..

Okay, I will e-mail you the MTCN immediately, but can you first send
me your contact details (e.g. address and telephone number) so that I
know you are 100% who you say you are? Otherwise, I could be giving
out my MTCN to a complete stranger. I'll send you my MTCN as soon as I
hear from you.

Thanks,

Will
…..

Whet?! This is my flat and my terms. I told you, I call you After I will check if the money are available. If you don't want is not a problem, I have another interested person..
…..

I understand and accept that it is your flat and your terms. I also
understand that you want to see the money before you call me. However,
I have no idea who you are if there is a problem with the money - I
only have your e-mail address, whereas you have my work details below
and my home address from the receipt attachment.

I am sorry if you do not want to provide your personal details before
I give you the MTCN, but please understand from my position that it is
dangerous to give this unless I know who the person is. I will happily
call you and give you the MTCN, but if you are not willing to do this
then please contact the other interested person.

Best wishes,

Will
…..

[lorz83]

Hi there,
other warning, posted a add for flat to rent, got a man called micheal crouch interested, asking for more details- gave them then had this reply;
Hello,

Thanks for your reply, your price is ok by me and every other thing it's ok with me,i will like you to know that i will be paying you an advance payment first for the month. I will have my client issue out payment to on my behalf since i am not in United Kingdom now to do this ok. So he will be sending you Bank Cheque. I would like to inform you that is likely my client sends you an over payment to you. After you Once payment is recieved, you will have to take it to your bank and have it deposited into your account for clearing and get back to me with the clearance date,so that i can get you details to send the excess funds to my Daughter's travelling Agent via western union money transfer as soon as the cheques clears, so he can make traveling arrangements for my daughter to come down to your end.You will have to deduct your money for the rent which is(£860, being payment for a month rent and deposit as an advance payment.). She will be coming down to your end as soon as payment is duely paid and the travelling agents recieved the money for her travelling arrangement to enable her obtain her tickets and some other things that will be needed for her journey. kindly forward the necessary formation for the payment to be sent to you immediately find below the information you need to send me to enable you get payment:

FULL NAME......................
ADDRESS.......................
CITY..............................
COUNTY........................
POSTAL CODE................
COUNTRY......................
CELL / HOME PHONE NUMBER..............

ABOUT MY DAUGHTER & FAMILY
my daughter's name is Jessica,she is 21 years, 5"7' tall, straight,female and single.she dose not drink or smoke,her hobbies are reading,swimming for fun and sometimes play tennis. My Full name: Mr. Mitchel Crouch, and my wife's name: Farla Jean Crouch. We have been happily married for over 40 years now and we are richly blesses with two kids, Jessica and her brother Paul, who is 28 years already married . We are very happy families and my kids are very nice and respectful and responsible. We live in Paris,FRANCE, I am a chattered Accountant while my wife is a Nurse. Get back now. I will have her sign for every necessary agreements when she arrives ok.
Best Regards,
Mr.Mitchel Crouch.
LOAD THIS LINK TO SEE JESSICA CROUCH (http://www.sendspace.com/file/06wzlo



i knew it was aload of crap as i recently watched a thing on watch dog about it, not only that it didnt add up? why on earth would someone send you MORE money than they should? plus, he askes for my address and what country? eeeeeh? should he not know this if he was indeed interested in the flat....... just posting this as a warning like others have done.

laurie

ps, michel croutch mitchel_crouch@ymail.com

[montyzuma]

Ive had him too

i lover the chattered accountant

[lorz83]

ive just been reading all the other posts! its amazing they get away with it!
would love to track them down and have a little word,lol
feel sorry for all these people that have been conned.

[dannypearce]

I too have received the same response from Mitchel Crouch. Have been stringing him along for a while now with a number of emails, and finally received his cheque for £3,500. Was interested to see just how much of an overpayment he was going to make. I've now told him I will need to wait 2 weeks for his cheque to fully clear the system [obviously I'm not going to cash it].

Here's our last conversation:

Mitchel,

I don’t expect that you’re fully aware of the banking system in the UK, but it can take around 2 weeks for a cheque to fully clear in the system. Even though the funds initially appear in my account, I’ll need to wait for the cheque to be returned to your branch and fully cleared there before I can make the money transfer. I know you are genuine, but there is a lot of fraud about these days so you can’t be too careful.

Don’t worry though, I will keep the room available for your daughter.

Regards,


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Mitchel Crouch [mailto:mitchel_crouch@ymail.com]
Sent: 06 March 2009 00:50
To: Danny Pearce
Subject: RE: Keep Me Posted.....



Danny, I appreciate your fast response and honesty, you sound like a very good and kind person. You will be sending the excess funds to my traveling agent that will be booking my families trip to the UK because me and my wife will like to come and see where our daughter will be living and also meet you in person. You do not need to worry about picking her from the airport because my traveling agent will get everything arranged for us.

The cheque should clear within 1-3 workings which means funds should be available in your account anytime from Monday or Tuesday at the most. You can as well make a fast clearance on the cheque which will make funds available in your account within 48 hours. As soon as funds are cleared and available in your account I will give you the name and address of my traveling agent whom you will be sending the excess funds to via western union money transfer. When we get to UK I will personally sign any necessary documents for the rent and will also provide you with any other information you may require. Thanks once again for the understanding and kindness.

Best Regards.........

[montyzuma]

ive got a lovely 19 page fake homeland security form for them to fill in

string him along with problems let him think the cheque has cashed

i had one going nuts when i told him the cheque had cashed and that id withdrawn the money and was on my way to the western union shop but id met a mate and we were in the pub

my messages were geting drunker and drunker as i spent "his" money i was buying rounds for everyone

he was nearly in tears, telling me how he needed it for his sick kids granny whatever

[wojtek_w]

I was interested in "his" motorbike...

Hi,

I'm interested in your motorbike.
I could come to have a look on Tuesday.
Let me know if it's still available and where in London are you.


Thanks



Hello,
First, i would like to thank you for your interest regarding my bike.I will let you know some important things about it. You should know that this is a great bike, very well maintained, always keep in garage, no damage, never involved in any kind of accidents. This is my bike, registered under my name.I have all the documents of the bike, registration, COC and even all revisions bills and service book.I can say about this bike that it looks the same like in the first day when it was out from the factory. I hope you are really interested to buy it, so you can e-mail me soon and discuss anything you want.
Thank you




This already sounded a bit dodgy, because didn't answer any of my questions...
But I replied anyway...


Hello,

It all sounds good.... could you tell me where in London you are located, because I would be interested to have a look at the bike.

Thanks



Hello,
The bike is located in London .if you want buy my bike you must come personal in London . Now i will explain my situation.I had bad experiences with other buyer.somebody from Czech Republic told to me that want to buy my bike.I told him that is Ok,we will meet in London and we will make the deal.I aspect this buyer in London but no buyer,never respond to my emails or to my calls.Now i am little cautions because i have lost my trust in people.I have an idea with this services Western Union which offers me safety that you will come in London to buy my bike.My idea will convince me to keep the bike for you till you will come to London to buy my bike.
My idea: Give ÂŁ1600 (this is my last price) cash to a member of your family and ask that person to go to a Western Union office and send the money to your name, but to UK,London as receiver city. If you make this transfer, i will be sure that you will come to London for your money.we will meet in London and we will finish this deal.you will send me the scanned paper from Western Union and if everything is in order i will erase the bike from internet and i will decline all my clients.i will keep the bike for you till you will come in London .The paper from Western Union will be enough for me to see that you have the money and your interest to buy my bike is real.
After we will meet in London and we will check the bike to mechanic and Police, you will go to Western Union in my town,then pick up the money and give cash to me.i hope that is ok for you and we will finish this deal in good condition.waiting for your answer.
Best Regards,


This made me searching google for WU scam and it took me to this forum
and I wrote the guy:


Sounds like scam to me....
good luck


he replied:
how i can scam you ? do you understand what i asked you ?


his email: cmnd16@yahoo.com
name: Giorgio Ferrante

beware

[nsilmon]

I received these emails when I put up an ad for a flat. Watch out, don't fall for this Western Union Transfer scam! They use all the information you give them to pick up the money you apparently send to yourself with a fake ID.

A friend of mine fell for it last week and nearly lost £800 (luckily she froze the transfer just in time). This person uses different email addresses but the same mobile (at the moment anyway)

This is the latest email:

Hi,
Let me know when you want to come and view my flat, so that i will plan my time here and make sure am there before you arrive.
The only thing is that i need double assurance, because i want to avoid traveling from Birmingham to london without being sure of your immediate move-in, i can afford my fare, but i can't afford to waste my time.
My Lawyer will get a contract ready for you to sign if you like to take the flat after viewing and the keys will be handed over to you immediately after contract has been signed.
Also, receipt of payment will be issued to you after which you'l have to sign the lease agreement form.
I was discussing with my colleague about the idea on how i will be so sure that i will not just waste my time to london without acheiving my the aim and she advised that we can work out something via Western Union Money transfer.
She said that Western Union can actually hold the money as an evidence and surety that her tenant will pay her at least for the first month and deposit. She gave me an option on what we can do since you have the funds at hand which will be explained below:
PROCEDURE:
1) Transfer the the amount £1600 (1 month rent and security deposit) to you any of your family members (dad, mum or siblings) or friend.
Your name (as sender) to any of them's name (as Receiver) in London or other parts of UK.
2) Scan & Send a copy of the Western Union transaction receipt as a proof of the transaction or mail me the transaction details.. (The money is safe as it is only you that can withdraw since you need a national ID card or International passport)
3) Then, we will meet for viewing.
4) If you decide to take the flat, we will go to any local Western Union office close to my flat pick up the money and pay me. (You don't need to come with cash to view, after viewing we will go together, you will withdraw and pay me)
5) Keys will be handed over to you after signing the contracts.
I am pretty sure that the transaction at Western Union office will require some charges, i will definitely refund the transaction charges back to you upon viewing and if you don't see what i sent as pictures of my flat to you, you are free to leave without paying me anything.
I only want to be sure that i am not going to waste my time this time around and i think with this condition, both of us can be sure we are not wasting our time.
I will only rely on your honesty that you have made the transaction so that i can reserve the flat for you.
Let me know if you are okay with this so that we can proceed. Thanks so much while i will be waiting to read from you and i am looking forward to meet you and be great friends eventually.
NB: PLS DO NOT MAKE PAYMENT TO ME OR IN MY NAME, WHAT I NEED IS JUST AN EVIDENCE THAT YOU HAVE THE CASH TO PAY ONCE YOU HAVE VIEWED.
I am sorry for the lengthy mail, i only want to explain myself better. You can also call or text me on 07588392249 for a chat but i dont receive calls when am at work.
Warm regards and have a nice day.
07588099395
Gabriela

[cornishstanley]

Just had excatly the same sent to me...

bloody buggers!!

Since you are ready to view and move in immediately,i will plan my time here and make sure am there before you arrive.



The only thing is that i need double assurance, because i want to avoid traveling from Birmingham to london without being sure of your immediate move-in, i can afford my fare, but i can't afford to waste my time.



My Lawyer will get a contract ready for you to sign if you like to take the room after viewing and the keys will be handed over to you immediately after contract has been signed.



Also, receipt of payment will be issued to you after which you'l have to sign the lease agreement form.



I was discussing with my Lawyer about the idea on how i will be so sure that i will not just waste my time to london without acheiving my the aim and she advised that we can work out something via Western Union Money Transfer.



She said that Western Union Money Transfer can actually hold the money as an evidence and surety that her tenant will pay her at least for the first month and deposit. She gave me an option on what we can do since you have the funds at hand which will be explained below:


PROCEDURE:


1) Transfer the the amount £800 (1 month rent and security deposit) to your friend

Your name (as sender) to your Friend (as Receiver) in London or other parts of UK.


2) Scan & Send a copy of the Western Union Money Transfer transaction receipt as a proof of the transaction or mail me the transaction details. (The money is safe as it is only you that can withdraw since you need a national ID card or International passport)


3) Then, we will meet for viewing.


4) If you decide to take the room, we will go to any local Western Union Money Transfer office pick up the money and pay me. (You don't need to come with cash to view, after viewing we will go together, you will cancel the transfer and withdraw the money to pay me)


5) Keys will be handed over to you after signing the contracts.



I am pretty sure that the transaction at Western Union Money Transfer office will require some charges, i will definitely refund the transaction charges back to you upon viewing and if you don't see what i sent as pictures of my flat to you, you are free to leave without paying me anything.


I only want to be sure that i am not going to waste my time this time around and i think with this condition, both of us can be sure we are not wasting our time.


I will only rely on your honesty that you have made the transaction so that i can reserve the flat for you.


Let me know if you are okay with this so that we can proceed. Thanks so much while i will be waiting to read from you and i am looking forward to meet you and be great friends eventually.


NB: PLS DO NOT MAKE PAYMENT TO ME OR IN MY NAME, WHAT I NEED IS JUST AN EVIDENCE THAT YOU HAVE THE CASH TO PAY ONCE YOU HAVE VIEWED.


I am sorry for the lengthy mail, i only want to explain myself better. I cant receive calls at work so its best you send me a text message.



Warm regards and have a nice day.


07588099395



Beth

[montyzuma]

i tried the mobile but they are not taking calls

[easternunion]

If you are really tempted by the deal but are not sure if its a scam, send the money to your friend via western union and collect the money before sending proof to any potential scammer.

[montyzuma]

eastern in my years of experience i have NEVER seen a western union or moneygram deal that wasnt a scam

please take my word no-one operates under such conditions

they operate in such a way so that they can steal your money

[kellie maloney]

beware of a guy called Jacques Laprise!!! hes trying to scam people out of thousands claiming to be selling a car (audi A2) using the western union to do this. Almost fell for it but luckly i googled him and came up with more of his car scams!! didnt realise they was so much of this going on.

[mrchrisbolton]

[ranveli]

another fraud from a flat renting response just today.. just thought i would post that here


its from
Elena Sparow elenasparow@yahoo.co.uk
Your Gumtree.com ad #37454685: 3 bedroom flat to rent in Klein Wharf, Islington, N1


My name is Elena and I have the flat for rent.. The rent is 860£ per week including all bills and the council tax. You can rent the flat as long as you need to stay even for 2 years. The first payment will be for 2 months(1720£). In case you want it, let me know so we can arrange the transaction. I need to know that you are 100% interested to rent my flat because i don't like time waster.
As you can see in the photos everything it's new in the flat and the flat is fully furnished, newly refurbished and also benefits from wood flooring. You have internet connection, phone, washing machine with dryer, cable TV and most important parking place. Please let me know what your intentions are....when you intend to move in? How long you want the contract to last for? how many people would be living in it and some other things you feel i should know.
Get back to me.

and the following reply after we told 'HIM' (or its a her.. as this Elena has a wife) that 860 per week is too expensive and we are not interested in paying before seeing the flat.


The 860 pounds is the rent for 1 month
I am glad that you are interested to rent the flat. As you can see in the photos the flat is fully furnished. The rental cost per week include all the bills and council tax. I moved at my wife place in Plymouth because i was transferred with my job at the
Plymouth Nuffield Hospital(i am a surgeon). Before i do flat reservation for you i need to be sure that you are 100% interested to rent it. I don't want to make the trip again and maybe never meet you. I don't like the time wasters. I had a bad experience last week with a person from Paris that make me sign the rent papers on his name and when i arrived in London, i never meet him. Now i want a warranty that you have the money and also that you are interested to rent it.
I don't want any money before you see the flat. You will pay me only after we do the rent documents. If you agree send me your name so i can write it on the tenancy agreement. I will send you a copy be email or by fax so you can see that i decided to rent it to you.
Waiting your response and i hope you are a serious person.

[cat.aaron]

I almost got caught with this exact same scan. I can't believe I almost fell for it. The only reason I checked up was because I called the given phone number and couldn't get through, I then googled the phone number and it brought me straight to this forum.
I'm so glad I didn't go through with this!!! This needs to have a stop put to it!

[cat.aaron]

By the way, the phone number is 07588099395 and the email address I was getting contact from was mariamdoyle@yahoo.co.uk
Keep an eye out for this one!!!

[montyzuma]

all you have to do is send an email to abuse@yahoo.co.uk and .com telling them about it