[gibbi]

Here is the invoice for your item!

DELL XPS M2010 LAPTOP 2.0GHZ 4GB DVDRW AMAZING 320GB

Dear xxxxxx xxxxx,

Our customer (Marc Forman) requires us to mediate your transaction.

Currently, the seller has a $7,550.00 deposit in an GumTree Protection Program managed purchase protection account. Transactions with this GumTree seller are covered by purchase protection against fraud and description errors. GumTree's Buyer Protection is available even if the item is not purchased through Gumtree.

We require the payment to be done through Money Gram money transfer service.
If you are not familiarized with the Money Gram money transfer services please visit: www.moneygram.com. If you want to locate the nearest Money Gram Office in your area please click "Locate moneygram Agent" on the website. . You have to pay with cash at any Money Gram Office or online.






Item Information


Item Title: DELL XPS M2010 LAPTOP 2.0GHZ 4GB DVDRW AMAZING 320GB






Transaction Details



Buyer: xxxxxxx xxxxxx

Address: xxxxx
Email: xxxxx

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Seller: Marc Forman

Address: 208 Green Lane , London, N13 5UE,Uk.
Email: betpoc@yahoo.com


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Subject: DELL XPS M2010 LAPTOP 2.0GHZ 4GB DVDRW AMAZING 320GB

Amount: 600 GBP

Shipping: 0 GBP

Insurance: 600 GBP

Total: 600 GBP



GumTree Money Gram Details(Our Agent United Kingdom):





First Name: Martin

Last Name: Gerard

Street: 51 Berners Street

City: LONDON

Zip code: W1T 3NG

Country: United Kingdom




How to make payment?



1............... Locate the nearest Money Gram Office
2....... Make the payment with cash using our Gumtree Agent details

3............... E-mail us the following details from the payment receipt:
- Reference Number - 8 digits number from the payment receipt
- Sender Name and Address
- Receiver Name
- Amount
Or send us the scan paper receipt from MoneyGram.

Once we receive the payment confirmation, we will instruct the seller to start the shipping process. We will hold the payment details until you send us your confirmation that you are satisfied with the product you received. As soon as we receive your confirmation we will release the payment details to the seller.
Notice: Please inform the seller about the payment too.

Sincerely,
Gumtree Financial Department




PAYMENT MUST BE MADE IN MAXIMUM 48 HOURS. Thank You For Using Gumtree

All contents Š1999-2007 by Gumtree



Well I paid the money and what should I do?
Thanks your help!

[hospidium]

Please be aware of cheap Rugby tickets for the Six nations. I have just been scammed for £240 for 4 tickets to England v Wales on 2nd February 2008.

Whatver you do never send any money for anything using Moneygram or Western Union.

Details for the fraudster, whether true or not are :

Name: DANIEL LEE JONES
Address: 6 Parkway Terrace, Glasgow, G3 7SD
Tel: 07787 758781

He will always give excuses as to why he cannot use Paypal and that he doesn't have a passport etc. DO NOT TRUST HIM!

He will even call you and talk to you all about the Rugby World cup and how him and his mates always go to the Six Nations etc. and his brother works for the Welsh Rugby Union that is why he has a ticket allocation. He will also offer tickets for other games at reasonable prices England v Scotland with coach etc. AGAIN DO NOT TRUST HIM!

I have reported this to the police and Gumtree Admin, but just thought I should warn others so you don't lose your money trying to get tickets for the Six Nations.

[montyzuma]

that address is for parkgrove terrace the horse may have bolted but always google peoples info or check via phone book that it s the correct address

[mivona]

GTS Shipping.... I have had a couple of different sellers offer me tickets that are supposed to be sent out from www.gts-shipping.com.

Their scam is quite cunning, because they ask for your mailing address, and immediately send you back a "tracking number" that you can plug into the GTS site, and which returns the very item you are supposed to be buying, along with your details and the seller's details.

The website is a complete sham, a rip-off of another website, and the telephone number attached to this "American" website gets answered by a teenager with an American access who claims that their house doesn't know why they are getting these calls, because they are in Belgium!

Any emails from sellers that read:

[mivona]

hospidium, can you please contact me on mivona@gmail.com? I've been ripped off by him too.

[jarod_007]

SCAM ALERT!

from Johny N <johnyn23@yahoo.com>
date Nov 24, 2007 10:45 AM
subject Plasma TV
mailed-by yahoo.com
signed-by yahoo.com

hide details Nov 24



Reply


Hi,
The TV is Brand New , in box with 3 years full warranty. Of course that
it cames with a PC input at the back. The delivery wont cost more then
15-20 pounds. For we can both be satisfied and having no problems the
transaction will be made using an escrow service , DHL Third Party only
if we have a deal. An agent will keep your money untill you receive
and inspect the TV. Let me explain you how it works: I go with the TV
to an DHL Depot. They will inspect it and contact you with an invoice
regarding the condition of the product , Delivery and Payment details.
Anyway it would be better if you have those money in CASH. After they
contacted you with that invoice you have to make the payment to their
agent; he will hold your money untill you receive and inspect the TV. As
soon as you confirm them that the payment was made they will proceed
with shipping and contact you with a tracking# number. After you receive ,
inspect and confirm them that you are satisfied on it and all
is Ok the Agent will send me the money. If you dont like the TV you
may return immediatley or in 15 working days. Seems fair to me ....
If we have a deal please let me know your full name and adress and i
will start the transaction right away.
Thnx



He sent me the details and the DHL Note...

from DHL Third Party <dhl-third-party@london.com>
to --removed--
date Dec 3, 2007 9:36 AM
subject DHL Transaction ***624T40TTMNF** Confirmed and Payment Request

DHL Transaction Started - Package in DHL Custody - Act Now!


elcome to DHL International Express Inc. Services. DHL is the European market leader with a global reach in express, logistics and international mail delivery services.

DHL Third Party Service reduces risks associated with Internet transactions by acting as a licensed neutral third party for online transactions.
The seller delivers the package to one of it's nearest DHL agents for the evaluation of contents. The package will remain in DHL custody until the receiver will send the payment through a Money Transfer Service and will provide all the transaction details to DHL for verification reasons. The payment will be made through a Money Transfer Service. After verifying the funds, DHL is ready to ship the parcel to the designated address. Once the buyer receives the merchandise, the payment informations will be released to the seller only if the buyer is com pletely satisfied with the merchandise. If the buyer will not be satisfied with the merchandise, DHL Third Party Service will send the merchandise back to the seller. The transaction details are sent to the shipper within one week after the parcel delivery based upon the receiver's clearance.
DHL Third Party Service Transaction Details:
Ship To:
--removed details--

United Kingdom


Ship From:
First name:

John
Last name:
Neurs
Address:

43 Union Street
City/State:
Aberdeen
PostalCode:
EW1 56Y
Country:

United Kingdom







Shipment Information:
Service:

DHL Air Express
Delivered By:
2 Days
Shipment ID:

624T40TTMNF
Description of Goods:


LG LHT764 Home Theater + 37LB5D LCD 37" HDTV
Package Type:

DHL Express Box
Quantity:

1

Package Information:
Package:

2 of 2
Package Type:
DHL Express Box
Tracking Number:

Pending*
Shipping Service:
DHL - Third Party Service
Package Status:

DHL Custody
Status of Inspection:

Complete - Package has been verified by an DHL agent.
*Note: You will receive the Tracking Number after the payment is confirmed and the parcel will be in transit.

Billing Information for the Shipment




Payment Method: VISA Credit Card XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-4536

Total: All currencies in GBP **38.00

DHL Express*
DHL Third Party Service Guaranteed by DHL Shipping Company
This is how DHL Third Party Service works:
1. Seller and Buyer agree with the terms and start an trasaction with DHL Third Party.
2. Seller ship the merchandise to DHL Milano, DHL keep the package in custody.
3. DHL will send an notice via email to Buyer regarding the trasaction.
4. Buyer must follow the DHL instructions regarding the payment.
5. Buyer must give the payment details to DHL via email at
6. DHL will verify the money transfer and start the shipping of the package to Buyer.
7. DHL deliver the package and give you the DHL Tracking Number.
8. Buyer receive the package and verify the merchandise.
9. Buyer confirm that the merchandise is all right.
10. DHL will send the money to Seller.
DHL Third Party Transaction is done.

Through this e-mail we have the pleasure to inform you that the merchandise has been left in our custody. The shipping fee was paid by the Seller. The Payment Informations about the Western Union Money Transfer must be sent to us for verification. You must send us an email with the scanned paper from Western Union Money Transfer payment reciept.

The Seller is unable to receive any information regarding the payment data. This transaction is restricted by a mutual agreement between the Seller and DHL.


Payment method used for DHL Third Party Service is Western Union Money Transfer.
Receiver of the Payment - DHL Agent - Instructions

1. Visit a local Western Union agency ( find nearest location )
2. Fill out the necesarry "Send Money" form, ask agent if you need assistance

* They will require a valid ID
* You can pay with cash, a bank debit card or credit card
* Western Union will charge you a money transfer fee
* Send the amount of the total shown above
TOTAL AMOUNT
GBP £450.00
* Using either method, provide the following "Receiver" information:
First name:

Tim
Last name:
Flender
Address:

Via Lincoln
City/State:
Milano
PostalCode:
10989
Country:

Italy


3.Once payment has been sent, please send the scanned paper from Western Union to:
SEND PAYMENT TO: dhl-third-party@london.com
If you don't find an scanner, please send us the following details via email:
Sender First Name:
Sender Last Name:
Sender Address:

MTCN Code:
Total Amout Sent:
Shipment ID:
Once the payment is done and the verification is complete, we can ship you the package and provide you the DHL Tracking Number for your package.
IMPORTANT! The package has been verified by DHL. The package is now in the DHL carrier custody. We will be able to deliver the package after the Payment is verified and collected. Please allow us up to 24 hours to verify the Payment Information.

Through this email we have the pleasure to inform you that the merchandise has been left in our custody. The shipping fee has been paid by the Seller........ The Payment Information (in this case about the Western Union Money Transfer) must be sent to us for verification. The Payment Information that you need to send to us are: MTCN - Money Transfer Control Number, Sender's Name and Sender's Address, Amount Transferred. Please send us the Payment Information at:
SEND PAYMENT TO: dhl-third-party@london.com

A Delivery Alert with an ETA ( estimate time of arrival ) for your package will be sent to your e-mail for your convenience when we begin the delivery of your package.

We are available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week for additional assistance, and invite you to contact us if you have any additional concerns.

Thank you for choosing DHL!
Nicole Card - DHL Customer Department

To assist us in serving you better, please do not delete any portion of the DHL Customer Department Specialist correspondences.

This communication contains proprietary business information and may contain confidential information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately destroy, discard, or erase this communication.

DHL Holding B.V. - International Shipping Company
Intellectual and other property rights to the information contained in this site are held
by DHL Holding B.V. with all rights reserved © 2007

Dnv Investors in People


------------------

However... ALL the links on the page went to the wrong place. The banner took you to UPS and not DHL. The images were taken and linked off images.google.com and further more, the person you're paying is in ITALY.

Once you pay via Western Union, within 10minutes, your money can be collected and it's gone.

There's a lot of fraud going into Italy at the moment. Be careful! Make sure you check the email thoroughly.

I've been trying to find a department to submit them through for fraud, but can't find anything in London that will help!

[howieb5]

I've been toying with this guy for a few days now and he's actually sent me a cheque for 2 grand!

Any advice from the gumtree team? Shall i contact the police?? I'm sure i'm not his first attempted victim.


*******************************************

Hello Howard thanks for the mail,am very glad that you finally get the payment ,thanks for the updating ,morreso i ,will like you to deducted the 3 month rent including the deposit from the money. and the rest will be sent to my traveling agent to book my ticket and my equipment .so let me know when you ll be able to do this so i could forward you the Agent information to send the money .and inform you on my arrival day soon as i get my ticket and equipment .

looking forward to read from you .

Cole.


Hi Cole,

I've received a cheque today, thank you.

Can you confirm how long you wish to stay at the house for? I think you mentioned 6 months?

Also when will be arriving?



----- Original Message -----
From: murphy cole
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 1:05 PM
Subject: urgent


Hello Good morning to you once again and Merry
Christmas .Please i, will like to know if the payment as been deliver to your contact address by post. and get back to me so we could move further on the transaction .

Looking forward to read from you .

cole


Hi Cole


>
> From: murphy cole
> Date: 2007/12/13 Thu PM 12:30:58 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Update Me...........
>
> Hello ,
> Thanks so much for your response, i will love to move in as soon as it at get available.... I would like to have the apartment for 6 month , i will be coming in as soon as i have secured a suitable place to stay in.
> would like you to know that i won t be able to come over to view the apartment due to my present location as i am currently in Holland This is a little about me.I am 30years of age presently in Holland i ....i am very nice, caring, honest, kind responsible, hard working clean, reliable and social. i like watching Movies, swimming and reading too ....i am social, very passionate and i like to share ideas with others. I neither drink nor smoke, but don't mind living with those that do them.
> Concerning payment, I have contacted my client and he promised he will make out payment to you,
> do not hesitate to provide me with these
>
> information.below ..
> Name, ................
> Address, .................
> Post Code, .................
> Telephone number ..............
>
> Merry Christmas in Advance.
>
>
> looking forward to read from you .
>
>
> cole
>
>
> Howard wrote: Hi Murphy
>
> Yes the room is still available to rent, there are 3 rooms available the smallest is £185, then £195 and the biggest £200.
>
> This price doesn't include bills, which would be around an extra £20 a month
>
>
> >
> > From: murphy cole
> > Date: 2007/12/12 Wed PM 02:13:54 GMT
> > To:
> > Subject: Accomodation neded
> >
> > Hi,
> > I am Murphy Cole, I am coming over to your location .In my search For place to live with in a conducive environment i came across your advert and i like It i would like to know if the accommodation is still available? And if yes I would like to know it’s rental price per month and deposit and note that your payment will be made to you via check. Will await to read back from you…
> > Best Regards.
> >
> > Cole

[Ragbir1960]

I am going to buy a M2010 Laptop of gumtree
the seller's e-mail is betpoc@yahoo.com
I am just asking is he a safe seller and trustworthy
because it is a good laptop offer to me

Please help me is he safe if anywone knows him

[ShallWeDanceTonight?]

[Ragbir1960]

yeh it's ad #16398751
please tell me if this a scam
but i am getting a good deal

[montyzuma]

and your definition of a god deal would be?

its ridiculously cheap?

i have a nice genuine gold brick for $100

if its not fave to face he is a crook

if its western union or similar he is def a crook

[Ragbir1960]

His name is marc F
i dont know his surnane

Please tell me if this a scam or a fraud

If anyone who has bought a laptop M2010
of marc F please tell me if he is a scammer
and if you have bought it
did it arrive and expected what you got for

Thanks

[ShallWeDanceTonight?]

[Ragbir1960]

He has been contacting me via e-mail
so what should i do

[reculver]

ragbir either met sellers face to face or NOT AT ALL

[lookhappy]

Hi there,
I'm new to the gumtree and I've been a total idiot.
I got given a small amount of money for christmas, and then stumbled on a load of adverts for cheap PS3s on the gumtree.
One guy said it was an unwanted christmas present. He had photos of it layed out, so I asked him for his phone number so I could talk to him about it, and he seemed decent enough but said he was based in nottingham so would have to post it down to me in cardiff.

Firstly - I've been such an idiot. I should never have paypal'd him the money. If he was genuine I should've driven up there to meet him and collect it in person.

So basically I was scammed for £200.
Please don't ridicule me - I already know how much of an idiot I am.
I just wanted to post this here to warn other people who might've been looking at offers that are 'too good to be true'.

I'm pushing paypal to try and get my money back, because I understand that they protect me against fraudulant situations like that. I have a screenshot of the advert which includes the email address I sent payment too, so hopefully there should'nt be any problems with that. I just wish I hadn't been so stupid

[In Pursuit]

Think I've been another victim of the same scam, maybe even the same advert!!! Not happy!!!
Been trying to report the ad to Gumtree and keep getting a "bad text" error........ getting annoyed now.
If someone from Gumtree is reading this......... get in contact please!
Trying to start a dispute through paypal NOW!

[ShallWeDanceTonight?]

[ShallWeDanceTonight?]

[In Pursuit]

I logged into the main Paypal site and paid that way.
Why is it if you try to report an ad on this site, it wont let you do it?

[ShallWeDanceTonight?]

PayPal and a credit-card?

As for the adds, I understand there is a bug in th site sometimes.

[In Pursuit]

[ShallWeDanceTonight?]

Ah!

What does PayPal have to say about all this then? I suspect it's going to end badly, with thie person having zero money in their account, and probably fake details to sign up for it.

[In Pursuit]

I've raised the dispute with Paypal.
Just waiting for them to investigate.

Is there any contact to the Gumtree moderators/owners?
There terms etc state that they will pass on details of advertisers to the
authorities if an advertisers has acted illegally, but there seems to be
no way of contacting them!?!

[ShallWeDanceTonight?]

I'm presuming that they mean, if the authorities ask them.

You could email them here. It's in the FAQ "I've been the vicitim of a scam" - here.

There business adress is also listed here, so you could write to them.

Direct email (from "report a post" link) is: forums@gumtree.com <forums@gumtree.com>