[Bluey]

Teacher jailed over £74,000 benefit fraud

http://www.thisishampshire.net/display.var.1056552.0.teacher_jailed_over_74_000_benefit_fraud.php

Benefit fraud netted £18k
http://www.oxfordmail.net/news/headlines/display.var.1055140.0.benefit_fraud_netted_18k.php

falsely claimed more than £21,000 in benefits
http://www.meltonmowbraytoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=752&ArticleID=1918211

A BENEFIT cheat pretended he had split from his wife to claim more than £21,000.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/tm_headline=let-off-for--pound-21k-wife-split-fraud-&method=full&objectid=18284193&siteid=66633-name_page.html

http://media.netpr.pl/notatka_69226.html

Over £120k of fraudulently claimed benefits identified in successful prosecutions in one week alone.

[Peco]

What should we do with these people? Put them in prison for their crime? If so, have a read at this article, you'll see that benefit fraud by prison inmates is also rife.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5262890.stm

[Peco]

It's not just benefit fraud that is rife in the UK, all sorts of fraud is going on.


Read this, amd scroll down to Febnruary 25th to read about the 80 million National Insurance numbers that are in circulation in the UK, even though we only have a population of 60 million. Who is using these numbers? British citizens up to fraudulent activities? Illegal imigrants? Gangs of foreign crooks?

[Peco]

Opps! Here's the link.......

http://www.fraudweb.co.uk/2001%20Archive/feb01arch.htm

[Combo2]

Bluey


Whats more realistic is the genuine frudsters making a mint are the exception...


Most arrested for benefit fraud are not making a mint... only a little extra cash to top up their misley dole since nobody will give them a real job so say then can afford a few presents or pay off a few debts

And in actual fact letting them do a little work on the side is more likly to help them get off the dole with some experience and confidence and contacts so can come off properly

[Bluey]

I agree that it is usually the case that these are usually small sums and that low wages and high rent acts as a natural disincentive for people to come off benefits, especially if they have kids.

However, if perpetrated long enough, they will be substantial sums. There are apparently hundreds of thousands of people claiming to be single parent families and getting the tax credits for it than there are estimates of actual single parent families in existence - the suspicion is that a large minority of parents that live together fake a separation.

The following document from the Office for National Statistics estimates that HB overpayment alone, for various reasons, may run at £740 million per year (this covers both fraud and error).

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/asd/asd2/fraud_hb/HBR_Report_Jul06.pdf

By the time you factor in fraud and error in JSA, Invalidity, Tax credit, council tax rebates, family allowance, pensions and other benefits, it could run into a £Billion plus per annum.

So far the poll indicates that the majority of people do not think the British are workshy which must mean that those polled put the blame on barriers to employment rather than attitude of those unemployed.

[Bluey]

I agree that it is usually the case that these are usually small sums and that low wages and high rent acts as a natural disincentive for people to come off benefits, especially if they have kids.

However, if perpetrated long enough, they will be substantial sums. There are apparently hundreds of thousands of people claiming to be single parent families and getting the tax credits for it than there are estimates of actual single parent families in existence - the suspicion is that a large minority of parents that live together fake a separation.

The following document from the Office for National Statistics estimates that HB overpayment alone, for various reasons, may run at £740 million per year (this covers both fraud and error).

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/asd/asd2/fraud_hb/HBR_Report_Jul06.pdf

By the time you factor in fraud and error in JSA, Invalidity, Tax credit, council tax rebates, family allowance, pensions and other benefits, it could run into a £Billion plus per annum.

So far the poll indicates that the majority of people do not think the British are workshy which must mean that those polled put the blame on barriers to employment rather than attitude of those unemployed.

[Bluey]

Peco's not going to like this one...

Plan to shame GPs who fuel benefit culture

"JOHN Hutton has declared war on doctors who sign too many patients off sick, with a grim threat to "name and shame" the worst offenders.

The Work and Pensions Secretary has turned his fire on GPs amid an increasingly desperate government drive to reduce the enormous number of people being put on incapacity benefit (IB).

Almost 67,000 adults in Glasgow claim the £80-a-week benefit - nearly one in five of the working-age population. In Hutchesontown, the rate is seven in 10. "

http://news.scotsman.com/politics.cfm?id=1908922006

[Peco]

John Hutton is doing this because he knows that the UK simply can't afford to have so many people on Incapacity Benefit at the same time as we are spending billions on illegal wars, invasions, and occupations. What this country needs to do is get sick and disabled people off benefits and into uniforms. These people can then be conscripted and trained to kill arabs, thereby saving us money on the war against terror. It's simple economics, kill all the arabs, and in doing so, destroy global terrorism and cure the UK's financial problems.

*Follow the Yellow Brick Road*

I do believe in miracles! I do, I do I do!

[Bluey]

Excellent notion, Peco.

Between the hard neds and hard-bitten Jakeys of Hutchesontown, not 10 minutes walk from the city centre where there are thousands of businesses, they can rustle up a regiment that could rival the Blackwatch and strike fear in the heart of Al-Qaeda.

Marvellous.

[LADY G]

Working is also a sense of pride and if one job dont pay enough then get a second one.

BTW are there any britons left in britain? Fuck me we are the most multiculturl country in the flippin world. Everyone comes here looking for their pot of gold and when they dont find it they go on the dole and get a comfy living.

Combo, you are depressed.

[Combo2]

LAdy G working only gives you a sense of pride if a decent job... hardly think being a toilet attendant or standing holding those ad poles all day bored shitless can instill much pride

Its not a comfy living on the dole

If all you do is work you have no life so may as well slit wrists especailly if jobs involve no brains, creativitiy are just mindless, barin dead, with a nasty bitchy back stabby work group where you are not permitted to socialise, lean on anything, form relatioships etc...

For half the income you need to simply survive

[Combo2]

Now add to that if whilst others flung chair around the class, bulled, distrupted, did drugs made life hell for others you worked hard in school, behaved, studied, went to uni, got in debt and did work exp...


Then to be offered nothing having been promised this great life and carreer despite good grades...

Then odd bits of work you do like busking or selling hole made trinkets in the street get you arrested for the effort of getting off your ass,

And if you worked for yourself and got ripped off or things like if you do some agency work over 16 hours meaning you have to come off the dole but may not get paid for 3 months if and when the agency feel like...


You can see why people give up... not as workshy but whats the point when effort only hurts you?

[skillipedia]

No chicken cry , please!

If your are good enough and willing to work, you will find work

[Combo2]

And santa claus is real.

Ever heard of downsizing, efficiency drives, closing pitss, outsourcing labour to countiries with non min wage or employee rights?

Or had a look at the jobs requiring experience...


Employers have it easy with so many looking they are over picky and reject for the littlest things.

Especailly scumbag thinking like aint worked for a while, or had too many jobs...


Even silly jobs you could learn in 10 minutes want lots of experience.


Or dont like hair, what you do in free time, or other stupid stuff...


Plus as mentioned many jobs dont pay enough to live on even if you can get them with no promotion prospects no matter how hard you work, then other employers wont give you a better job as worked somewhere they dont respect.

[Combo2]

[Bluey]

"Research shows that more than £400 million is being paid out [in benefits] to people claiming to be single when in reality they live with a spouse.The Government is paying tax credits or out-of-work benefits to around 2.1 million people claiming to be lone parents..
Yet the official estimate is that there are only 1.9 million lone parents living in the UK."

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23378629-details/Couples%20keeping%20relationships%20secret%20to%20escape%20'perverse'%20tax%20stystem/article.do[/b]

[LADY G]

[Combo2]

not so easy.


Once you have a full time job. Most companies will only do interviews during your work times, plus you have probelms with notice.

Or the employer sees your last or current job and thinks thats all you can do.


Or its for a low wage so wont offer you the going rate but only offer slightly higher then you are earningso you never get a

grown up wage and only get pocket money


And if you try and go from job to job to get a proper deal a lttle at a time you get labled job hopper

[Bluey]

A new wave of immigration that may bring hundreds of thousands of impoverished workers to Britain is set to begin.

Migrants from the newest countries to join the European Union, Romania and Bulgaria, will join 600,000 other Eastern Europeans who have arrived over the past three years.

Officials in Bucharest have estimated that 350,000 skilled workers from Romania alone are likely to leave their homes to look for earnings in western Europe next year.

Because of restrictions in most EU countries, a high proportion are likely to come [to the UK]

One indication that large numbers of Romanians plan to emigrate is that 600,000 of its 21.7 million people have applied for passports in the last six months. Five years ago, only one million people in the country had a passport at all.


http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23379874-details/Wave+of+migrant+workers+from+new+EU+countries+heading+for+Britain/article.do

[satanic_angel]

[Bluey]

[Volvodriver]

I feel like quitting work now...i get up 4am every morning to work a 15 hr shift...i got stab.slash wounds all over,i been shot at...and there are people who who dont do jack shit for a living and get more money in their pocket for free..

[Bluey]

Apparently, the answer is to have many children and claim benefits. Would you bother with your shift if you could reap £700 plus per week in your hand for your family?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/4286756.stm

I've a feeling that we won't be seeing Lizzie or her ex-partner take up the vacancies in the bars, restaurants or shops in her Rochdale anytime soon which is why it means hard-working, flexible migrants are free to fill the vacanciesgoing begging in the area.

[LADY G]

Combo, go get some kids and claim benefits my man, then you can stop whinging and have loadsa moneeeeyyyyy