[norma]

i answered a job advert on gumtree for a babysitting job n this is the reply i got..


Hello Sir/Madam,

Season Greetings!!!! Happy new Year!!!!

Thanks to the internet access that made me locate you, my
name is Frank West, I am a Male and my Wife name is Juliet both of us were
living here in Uk until that fateful day she was involved in a fatal auto accident which took her life at the spot don't wanna talk about this but i think it is important since you would be acting as my kids nanny. We have 2 kids ages of our kids are 4(Terry),7(Faye) .I
relocated temporarily to US based on our family
business that is really booming out there in the US and my kids arrival date is
January 29 because the kids are in the US with me right now for holiday . After a serious discussion with my father-in-law concerning a proper
care for my kids and we’ve finally decided to search for a good
and responsible nanny/babysitter.Below you see our offers.We will be
offering this duty weekly,1) Monday to Friday, from 9:30am in the morning to
5:00pm .And the weekly pay: £500.00 We will be responsible for your
transportation which in exclusive of your weekly salary regardless of
the distance.Please calculate the total transportation cost per week from
your place to our residence if you prefer to live out and furnish me
with the cost so we can add it to your basic weekly salary.We
strongly searching for someone of well mannered attitudes, neatness and
good sense of relationship.If you are interested in this offer,
please answer all the questions below so i can have a brief idea of
your personality: 1) What academic qualifications do you possess?2) Do you have any
relevant certificate to back up your babysitting/Nanny career?3) How old
are you?4) Are you married?5) Do you have any special attitude?6) Do
you have any crime records?7) Do you have a valid driver's license?
Tell us more about your temperament .9) Can we have one or two
reference(s) from you?10)Can you handle money if you are given an assignment to
carry out?11) Is your husband/boyfriend/parent in support of you doing
this job? Let me know if you will be available for the work offer.If you
have any questions as regards this offer,feel free to get in touch and
also pls do reply to my personal E-MAIL frankwest0807@yahoo.com I await
a response at your earliest convenience.

Sincerely Yours

West and family.

so i got this mail rite and the first thing i noticed was the sir/madam thing..he hadnt been obviously reading my mail but i saw the money was good and who thinks abt scammers in job adverts. still way isend this mail back
hie there,
> got ur mail but there is something that
> makes me feel something is
> not right. I dont know wat that is... i may be wrong
> but thats what i am
> thinking..
>
> about the other stuff i can get references and
> everything..just give me a
> mail and i willl mail you the details.
> bye
> norma

then i get a mail back saying:




From : Frank West <frankwest0807@yahoo.com>
Sent : 04 January 2007 12:42:08

Subject : Assignment

| | | Inbox


Hello Sir/Ma,

So pls without a waste of time, I want you to send me
your full name and your contact address, and your
phone number, because there is an assignment for you,
this assignment is what can delay our coming ,its all
about our house furniture and our cars and including
the car that we would be given to you to make
everything easy for you and some house equipments ,
futures of our home and yours too, and 2 cars which
one of the 2 belongs to you and some other things that
we bought like Child care stuff in United States, they
have been given to the shipper to ship to our new
house in the Uk, so the shipper is waiting for the
shipping fee before they can ship them to the new
house. and there is a client of my an INSURANCE
COMPANY in UK WHICH is responsible for all of our
traveling expenses, they have agreed to pay the
shipper the shipping fee via cheque or money order,
so if you are taking up the position, the issue is
that you have to do something on our behalf as your
first assignment and we would pay you for it, this
will hasting our coming and to make everything work
effectively, I will instruct the INSURANCE COMPANY to
issue the payment to you. so you see, you will just
have to cash the money, that is meant to be sent to
the shipper of our cars and the house properties that
we have already bought in United States,although the
money was suppose to be sent to the shipper directly
but the shipper is not in uk and my father-in-law that
could have been of help to cash it by himself is
currently in Belgium now so you will have to take up
this assignment ,I have already talked with my
father-in-law concerning you that you are capable of
doing it, so you have to prove me right in his sight
by being honest and he said he would talk with his
INSURANCE COMPANY in uk to issue you THE FUNDS and
you cash it and send the money to the shipper for the
shipping, so the payment is going to be from his
revenue that they generate for him every month and its
going to be via cheque, so your full name and address,
would be needed and your phone number???? but you
would have to be honest b'cos he said that the amount
that this insurance company is going to pay out is
£5500, so You should take £800 for your preparations,
and for any other thing you might need to put in
places before your coming, so your coming would be
effective the whole money to be sent is £4700.so use
£800 for all your processing and send the rest of his
money through Money Gram or Western union money
transfer, you should search for money gram or western
union outlet near to your area and send the rest of
the money which is £4700 to our shipping agent in
United States for shipping of the rest of our house
properties and the cars including the Child care stuff
and some art works drawing and some decorations we
just purchased for the new house that we are moving
into in your area pls send the rest of the money to
shipper immediately b'cos my Father-in-Law is strict
about his money and he does not joke with his funds at
all .. So you would go on with the processing with
that £800 , and if you now need more money, then he
will send it to you again, that one is like your own
benefit of helping us to do the assignment. so your
full contact name and address and phone number is
needed for the cashier cheque to be written on your
name and get to your hand ? and in case of you not
having a bank account to deposit the money order or
cheque, then maybe you should try and get someone who
you trust that can help you cash the money and send
the person's name and contact address and phone number
alone and the client would issue it to what ever name
you send to me but just be sure of the person that you
trust,
provide everything i ask in time so you can have your
traveling payment in time and by sending the rest to
shipper of our properties in United States so that it
can be shipped to UK in time...okay, so answer without
wasting time .

EMPLOYMENT.

FIRST NAME......... SURNAME..................

ADDRESS.............................................

CITY............... STATE...............

ZIP CODE............... COUNTRY...............

PHONE NUMBER (S) ...............

GENDER................ MARITAL
STATUS.................

AGE............... NATIONALITY..............

Regard,

West Frank And Family


i read this and had a smile on my face but was sick to note that this was for a job advert..god totally sick..
bin reading a lot of posts on gumtree on scammers and ofcourse my fav scambaiters..lol gud job ppl..maybe i ll try something like tht sometime.


my questions were:
why do they need ur address
wat do u do if the cheque u receive clears which i think is highly improbable
wat do they do wit ur details and name, etc

[Bluey]

The cheque will be processed by the bank but it can take many weeks before it is identified as fake because of the clearance and security processes.

In the meantime, they will probably accidentally 'overpay' you and ask for the difference back, or ask you to send them a sum to cover a spurious fee like a work permit or travel fare. Then they'll ask you to do this by Western Union from your account as this will be a genuine transfer of real money from your account which is untraceable.

So they pay fake money in and get real money out, exploiting the difference in the bank realising the payment made is fake.

Here's some info on an ongoing scam which follows this kind of trajectory.

http://boards.gumtree.com/topic48932.html

I've read somewhere else that the reason why they want ID is to help them use it for other scams. It also probably scares the sh*t out of a person if they realise they are being scammed and that the scammer knows where they live.

Report the ad to the Gumtree admin so they can take it down. You have the opportunity to ignore it or to string them along for fun (if you haven't sent them the ID and account info - these are criminals, after all, but if they don't know who you are you can keep expressing your high interest in the role, continually asking them about the terms and conditions, and always ignoring their ever urgent pleas to give them your bank account number. This is known as scam baiting. In fact, some scam baiters even produce fake ID and fake western union slips in order to pursue this activity and wind them up.


see how to do this on the following sites.

http://www.419eater.com/
http://www.scambuster419.co.uk/

[Bluey]

How about this for a response.

"Frank,

The job seems great and I am very interested. Please can you tell if the £500 salary be paid to me in GBP sterling or the equivalent in dollars. If so, what is the exchange rate that you will use?

Give my regards to Terry and Faye. I am sorry they lost their mother in that awful way. Was she wearing a seat-belt?".

etc

Just keep ramping up the enthusiasm, the tedious enquiries about the specifics of the job and the level of sympathy you feel for him since his wife's tragic death.

[norma]

great idea...i jst send a mail saying

hi mr.west
sorry for the late reply..was busy wit exams..is the job still available????

The job seems great and I am very interested. Please can you tell if the £500 salary be paid to me in GBP sterling or the equivalent in dollars. If so, what is the exchange rate that you will use?

Give my regards to Terry and Faye. I am sorry they lost their mother in that awful way. Was she wearing a seat-belt?

i hope everything is allrite wit u.
bye then let me know.

great suggestion thanks..omg cant wait for his reply...
lovin this as got a whole lot of free time on my hands

[Bluey]

Great. I got a right one here - i've ended up giving beauty advice but haven't heard anything back from this poor tragic woman.

http://boards.gumtree.com/topic51415.html

I've just sent her email onto your employer, Frank, with a plea asking him to help her out.

[Bluey]

Here's the text of the message I sent to Frank after receiving a begging letter allegedly from a widow, physically deformed through the ravages of Aids, who is now homeless and is seeking someone to assist her with transfering $12,000,000 of her late husband's estate out of Ghana.

"Hi Frank,

I understand that you are a widower who lost their partner in tragic circumstances and are looking for an au pair and Nanny for your children.

I've received this message from a lady that is looking for accommodation and an income. Perhaps you would like to consider her for this position?

Who knows, with sufficient time and healing, you may find her companionship blossoms into something deeper.

Don't worry about the withering hair and pustulent complexion. I've given her some advice on natural remedies to deal with this.

God bless you, Frank. It's a cruel world without kind people such as yourself.

Bluey"

What do you think? Two hearts beating as one comes to mind.

[norma]

nice..god cant wait for his reply..poor man lol

[Bluey]

Well, I'm not holding my breath. I've done my best to play Cupid but perhaps its just too soon in his bereavement for him to contemplate a new companion.

[Bluey]

Norma - no word back on these recently bereaved individuals. Any word back on your 'job' application?

[norma]

well didnt hear frm the mo fo again...lol he is total crap or maybe he is in love with his new wife...

[rboothatkins]

Thats amazing! this guy not only has (was it 25,000,000 US dollers in aswis account?) but he has also lost his wife? I notice his e-mail address has been used rather a lot! I wish I had a varied life like that!.

I cant believe they would scam jobs too....thing is though it must work...but how? can people be that silly?

It makes me laugh!

x

[djohno24]

[montyzuma]

google cheque overpayment scam for more details

[gums]

coarse there scamming on jobs scamming everywhere on this site and thats a typical scam..

[weeowen]