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 Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:29 pm Post subject: Culture diffrences |
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Hi there
I would like to get some answers about British culture.
Have been here for almost 4 years but didn't make any British friends.
I just had a talk with my brother about British culture and lanaguage.
He said that every culture have it's own melody language and that if a foreigner won't learn this melody that in most of the cases even though he will speak a fluent english he won't be fully understood by British.
I'm just in progress of opening a bisness and I'm very aware of that I won't succeed.
So I would really appreciate you guys can give me a few tips abouth this matter.
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Apple
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| forget them!! Be yourself and stay true to your roots!! |
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Lau
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Culture diffrences |
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| musician wrote: | Hi there
I would like to get some answers about British culture.
Have been here for almost 4 years but didn't make any British friends.
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Perhaps you are unlucky because I have a lot of friends of different nationalities and I was born in London. There are sometimes problems because we misunderstand what someone says or does but if yoiu don't take offence it soon works out. |
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Nutty J
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: Culture diffrences |
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| musician wrote: | Hi there
I would like to get some answers about British culture.
Have been here for almost 4 years but didn't make any British friends.
I just had a talk with my brother about British culture and lanaguage.
He said that every culture have it's own melody language and that if a foreigner won't learn this melody that in most of the cases even though he will speak a fluent english he won't be fully understood by British.
I'm just in progress of opening a bisness and I'm very aware of that I won't succeed.
So I would really appreciate you guys can give me a few tips abouth this matter.
Thanks |
Hi musician what nationality are you, if you dont mind me asking ??? |
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musician
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| Apple wrote: | | forget them!! Be yourself and stay true to your roots!! |
It's easy to say cos you probably British. Are you?
Being yourself works in ones native country but in this or any other to understand others one have to first get to know the culture.
How do people think, express their emotions etc.
My brother studied English and have been to many different countries and told me that what's most important in learning a foreign language is to
learn some "melody language". Do you know what I'm talking about?
Every country has its own melody which depends in culture background.
British are famous in this that they speak with calmness.
Italian for example speaks very loudly and likes to uses his body whilst speaking. I suppose when some Italian will start speaking in English buy with his own "melody" then most of British will feel offended.
They will think that he's rude.
I'm not an expert with languages but I have a feeling that this is the case.
Like I said I'm almost 4 years in this country and tried ones to start a business but failed. I suppose one of the reasons was my luck of language and culture knowledge.
I bet that there are some certain unwritten rules in each country when it comes to communication.
I would be grateful if you guys can write some of them. |
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musician
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:53 pm Post subject: Re: Culture diffrences |
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| Lau wrote: | | musician wrote: | Hi there
I would like to get some answers about British culture.
Have been here for almost 4 years but didn't make any British friends.
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Perhaps you are unlucky because I have a lot of friends of different nationalities and I was born in London. There are sometimes problems because we misunderstand what someone says or does but if yoiu don't take offence it soon works out. |
Perhaps... and another think is that I'm shy when it comes to meet a new people. |
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Apple
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Am not English but have loadsa friends from different nationalities. And I dont really care if the British like me or not!! Am still gonna be me!! I advice you to do the same!! |
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Nutty J
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I think it is a case of that you have to learn to fit in with the people around you, its ok to still maintain your beliefs etc., but you have to learn to fit in with the people around you.
This melody language you speak of. Even in England, from city to city, we are different, geordies are different to londoners etc. etc., Just be friendly to people, dont act like an outsider, go with the flow, accept the country/city you are in and basically smile and be friendly and I cant see that you can go far wrong. |
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musician
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: Culture diffrences |
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| Nutty J wrote: | | musician wrote: | Hi there
I would like to get some answers about British culture.
Have been here for almost 4 years but didn't make any British friends.
I just had a talk with my brother about British culture and lanaguage.
He said that every culture have it's own melody language and that if a foreigner won't learn this melody that in most of the cases even though he will speak a fluent english he won't be fully understood by British.
I'm just in progress of opening a bisness and I'm very aware of that I won't succeed.
So I would really appreciate you guys can give me a few tips abouth this matter.
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Hi musician what nationality are you, if you dont mind me asking ??? |
I'm Polish but right know I fell I'm without a nationality cos I don't have any contact with polish except my brother. I have a few friends in the college but I live far away so I see them only in the class room.
Sometimes I think that I'm British but in the other hand how can I be British if I can't communicate with them.
Sometimes I think of going back to my country. I was there in December for Christmas by the way but I can't find myself there any more either.
I feel like like I'm beetwen. I guess is up to me which direction I want to go. |
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Nutty J
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: Culture diffrences |
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| musician wrote: | | Nutty J wrote: | | musician wrote: | Hi there
I would like to get some answers about British culture.
Have been here for almost 4 years but didn't make any British friends.
I just had a talk with my brother about British culture and lanaguage.
He said that every culture have it's own melody language and that if a foreigner won't learn this melody that in most of the cases even though he will speak a fluent english he won't be fully understood by British.
I'm just in progress of opening a bisness and I'm very aware of that I won't succeed.
So I would really appreciate you guys can give me a few tips abouth this matter.
Thanks |
Hi musician what nationality are you, if you dont mind me asking ??? |
I'm Polish but right know I fell I'm without a nationality cos I don't have any contact with polish except my brother. I have a few friends in the college but I live far away so I see them only in the class room.
Sometimes I think that I'm British but in the other hand how can I be British if I can't communicate with them.
Sometimes I think of going back to my country. I was there in December for Christmas by the way but I can't find myself there any more either.
I feel like like I'm beetwen. I guess is up to me which direction I want to go. |
See above which I wrote just now.
I think that you have to get more confidence in yourself and be more assertive !
Be friendly to people and they should be friendly back.
Praps you should join some sort of evening class or some social club or something to make some friends eh?
Its a case of finding a way to make friends and clubs and classes should make it easier for you.
Dont get me wrong there will always be people out there who are racist and wont accept people from other countries for whatever their reasons but equally there are people out there who will accept you and be prepared to be your friend. |
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musician
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I think that you have to get more confidence in yourself and be more assertive !
Be friendly to people and they should be friendly back.
Praps you should join some sort of evening class or some social club or something to make some friends eh?
Its a case of finding a way to make friends and clubs and classes should make it easier for you.
Dont get me wrong there will always be people out there who are racist and wont accept people from other countries for whatever their reasons but equally there are people out there who will accept you and be prepared to be your friend.[/quote]
You right. Confidence is all I need cos lately I'm luck of it 
The idea with social club it might work. I think about it and search for some. And with people I guess you right. There will always be someone who whatever you do he will simply not accept you cos you foreigner.
I've heard many times British saying that how the foreigner dare to speak to me etc but also talk to some British who are admire foreigners for courage to live in a foreign country and willing to learn new culture. |
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Lau
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: Culture diffrences |
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You right. Confidence is all I need cos lately I'm luck of it
The idea with social club it might work. I think about it and search for some. And with people I guess you right. There will always be someone who whatever you do he will simply not accept you cos you foreigner.
I've heard many times British saying that how the foreigner dare to speak to me etc but also talk to some British who are admire foreigners for courage to live in a foreign country and willing to learn new culture. |
See you know some of the answers. If some people don't like you move on to people who will. I think Polish people are going to have a big positive effect over here. Already the local shops are stocking polish products. Be confident - I like you |
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Nutty J
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: Culture diffrences |
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| musician wrote: | I think that you have to get more confidence in yourself and be more assertive !
Be friendly to people and they should be friendly back.
Praps you should join some sort of evening class or some social club or something to make some friends eh?
Its a case of finding a way to make friends and clubs and classes should make it easier for you.
Dont get me wrong there will always be people out there who are racist and wont accept people from other countries for whatever their reasons but equally there are people out there who will accept you and be prepared to be your friend. |
You right. Confidence is all I need cos lately I'm luck of it
The idea with social club it might work. I think about it and search for some. And with people I guess you right. There will always be someone who whatever you do he will simply not accept you cos you foreigner.
I've heard many times British saying that how the foreigner dare to speak to me etc but also talk to some British who are admire foreigners for courage to live in a foreign country and willing to learn new culture.[/quote]
Exactly, I for one, being british, admire all the people that travel around the world, it takes alot of courage to up sticks and go somewhere else, so be proud of yourself !!!
Its just, not meaning to get political, there is alot of bad feeling towards foreigners in this country at the moment because of illegal immigration so that doesnt help you I know.
But like I said there are people who will accept you and be your friend and the ones that dont, just move on, forget them and seek out others who are willing to be your friend. |
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musician
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: Culture diffrences |
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| Lau wrote: | | musician wrote: |
You right. Confidence is all I need cos lately I'm luck of it
The idea with social club it might work. I think about it and search for some. And with people I guess you right. There will always be someone who whatever you do he will simply not accept you cos you foreigner.
I've heard many times British saying that how the foreigner dare to speak to me etc but also talk to some British who are admire foreigners for courage to live in a foreign country and willing to learn new culture. |
See you know some of the answers. If some people don't like you move on to people who will. I think Polish people are going to have a big positive effect over here. Already the local shops are stocking polish products. Be confident - I like you |
Thanks Lau
Wow I found a really cool website about British culture
http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/customs/questions/
There are all the details about manners and stuff. Cool.
I gonna read this all tonight. Thanks to terror who post it a link before
Thanks terror. Why I didn't check this out before?
I hope soon my bisness will start and I make new friends
Althouh I still need to work on my grammar and pronanciation but my brother speaks fluent and have been teching English for years so I can say that I'm lucky. Just sometimes can't see the good sides of my life.
Since he came to England which was 1,5 year ago my life changed a lot for better. I speak better English Gave up work, move out of London but living near by So I don't really have nothing to comlpain about.
Just luck of friends lately  |
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Lau
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: Culture diffrences |
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Just luck of friends lately |
Well you have friends here now so you must come and talk some more. Why are you called musician do you play something and is your business going to be to do with that? |
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musician
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: Culture diffrences |
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| Lau wrote: | | musician wrote: |
Just luck of friends lately |
Well you have friends here now so you must come and talk some more. Why are you called musician do you play something and is your business going to be to do with that? |
Internet it's an amazing invention. You can find everything you like within minutes and what's more make friends
I can't imagine live without internet.
Anyway. Yes it's a music biasness and my instruments are... turntables
I play from time to time. Currently updated to a website. Looking for some more gigs though.
Where do you live? Are you f o m? |
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Lau
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 3:05 pm Post subject: Re: Culture diffrences |
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Anyway. Yes it's a music biasness and my instruments are... turntables
I play from time to time. Currently updated to a website. Looking for some more gigs though.
Where do you live? Are you f o m? |
So you supply DJ stuff and are a DJ too ? Cool. If you are good you should have no problems working in London. What typoe of sound do you have - are you a rock'n'Pole  sorry I'm a little tipsy ? |
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Marky
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: Culture diffrences |
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| Lau wrote: | | musician wrote: |
Anyway. Yes it's a music biasness and my instruments are... turntables
I play from time to time. Currently updated to a website. Looking for some more gigs though.
Where do you live? Are you f o m? |
So you supply DJ stuff and are a DJ too ? Cool. If you are good you should have no problems working in London. What typoe of sound do you have - are you a rock'n'Pole sorry I'm a little tipsy ? |
you sound drunk lau  |
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I think so but competition is enormus. Except that you need to be excelent with your music you also need to know how to promote yourself.
Know how to talk to people and wich people but I guess when someone really wants something then will eventually gets it.
My style is basicly House music. Love the soulful, latino.
Check this out. http://stylenetwork.org/
And what do you do for living? |
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Lau
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: Culture diffrences |
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you sound drunk lau |
That's not kind I'm just a little happy because I had a little drink with lunch and Im finishing the bottle because I was left on my own and I'm still happy |
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Lau
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| Yes I know the style site it's good. I work at a company of film producers in Soho which is really fun though I would like to do more on the real production side. Oh sorry I forgot to say I'm f. |
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Nutty J
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: Culture diffrences |
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| Lau wrote: | | Marky wrote: |
you sound drunk lau |
That's not kind I'm just a little happy because I had a little drink with lunch and Im finishing the bottle because I was left on my own and I'm still happy |
Drinking again Lau, hey babe, should make the most of being on your own and get on out there and party with your girl mates eh ????? |
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KOBUS VAN DER PLANKTON
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 3:26 pm Post subject: Re: Culture diffrences |
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| Nutty J wrote: | | Lau wrote: | | Marky wrote: |
you sound drunk lau |
That's not kind I'm just a little happy because I had a little drink with lunch and Im finishing the bottle because I was left on my own and I'm still happy |
Drinking again Lau, hey babe, should make the most of being on your own and get on out there and party with your girl mates eh ????? |
At least she doesn't spend her whole life on here |
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Marky
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: Culture diffrences |
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| Lau wrote: | | Marky wrote: |
you sound drunk lau |
That's not kind I'm just a little happy because I had a little drink with lunch and Im finishing the bottle because I was left on my own and I'm still happy |
red or white? |
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Lau
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| Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: Culture diffrences |
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Drinking again Lau, hey babe, should make the most of being on your own and get on out there and party with your girl mates eh ????? |
I'm happy as I am today Nuttey J in a little while I think I shall just curl up in bed and dream nice dreams well as nice as I can on my own |
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