| Are chem trails (added chemicals in aeroplane contrails) real as in not contrails? |
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38% |
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22% |
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| possibly, mabye, don't know, not quite sure either way at present. |
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| what are contrails? |
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| what is an aeroplane? |
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| zzz, huh, whaaah, what you want, I'm trying to sleep here.zzzz |
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stopchemtrailsuk
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 15 Location: Brighton, East Sussex at present (UK)
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:34 pm Post subject: STOP CHEM TRAILS UK launched |
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STOP CHEM TRAILS UK has launched a new website dedicated to provoking people to look again at contrails in a new light.
please see Chem files UK for more on this issue.
www.stopchemtrailsuk.bravehost.com  |
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stopchemtrailsuk
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 15 Location: Brighton, East Sussex at present (UK)
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www.scottwebb.co.uk
Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 3 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Chemtrails do exist as part of a process of weakening peoples immune systems before the 1918 flu variant is truly unleashed on the masses at large. The New World Order brigade want a 90% reduction of global population and a One World slave race of Serfs........wakey wakey people  |
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Shill #312
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:56 am Post subject: Chemtrails Do Exist? |
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| www.scottwebb.co.uk wrote: | Chemtrails do exist as part of a process of weakening peoples immune systems before the 1918 flu variant is truly unleashed on the masses at large. The New World Order brigade want a 90% reduction of global population and a One World slave race of Serfs........wakey wakey people  |
That's interesting scottwebb. What evidence do you have for the white fluffy cloud like objects being anything other than frozen water vapour? You seem pretty definite that they are. You must have some good evidence, I'd reckon?
One other thing? Why whould "They" want to reduce the population by 90% when their wealth and power is generated by the population? Thanks.
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www.scottwebb.co.uk
Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 3 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Couple of things shill....1. Contrail's dissipate after about a couple of minutes......Laws of physics....any pilot will tell you that. 2. Tell me the last time you saw a totally blue sky ?
3. go watch some of these vids OR DON'T your choice http://www.scottwebb.co.uk/15.html |
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stopchemtrailsuk
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 15 Location: Brighton, East Sussex at present (UK)
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jasonthebleep

Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 73
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Have you actually got any evidence? When did this conspiracy start - for example have you tried to source images from the birth of the jet age to see if contrails were the same in the 50's - or are you alleging that even back then the conspiracy was in existance?
I know that contrails existed with piston engined aircraft. There are images out there of contrails criss-crossing the skies of england during the battle of britain. Are you suggesting that the conspiracy existed as far back as the 40's?
Could it be that the large number of contrails in evidence above us today is merely the evidence of the proliferation of cheap air travel, and a multiplying of the number of aircraft in the skies?
Have you looked at why contrails form? Are you aware that they only form in when certain conditions are in existance in the atmosphere. Have you any experimental evidence using a control to see if a natural contrail disperses in the same way as on of your alleged chemtrails?
Have you carried out any research at all using the scientific method? |
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www.scottwebb.co.uk
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stopchemtrailsuk
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 15 Location: Brighton, East Sussex at present (UK)
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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I am not sure if it is happening I only hypothesis that it may be occuring.
there is a lot of stuff out there on the web, I am not an expert but I am concerned by this idea.
thank you for the input jasonthebleep, i appreciate the time you took to give it here.
kind regards,
Paul T
(I am not yet a scientist.) |
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jasonthebleep

Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 73
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:57 am Post subject: UFO's? |
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Hmm - The link that was posted above included one video clip labeled as ..
"This is a preview of Freeman's award-winning documentary on HAARP. Could HAARP be a defense against UFO's on top of being a tool for weather modification"
This probably would not help your cause. I also note alot of "they" whenever conspiricies are touted as the cause for various things - who are "they" |
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stopchemtrailsuk
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 15 Location: Brighton, East Sussex at present (UK)
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Dear jasonthebleep,
thankyou for the info, I am not a UFO/aliens enthusiast. who knows about that? it is a curious notion.
I just want to make people think and talk about alternative views and see things could be different from the popular perception of the world that I guess most people proberly hold as true.
My cause is that sometimes conspiricies do happen, mabye they are happening today, maybe this notion chem trails (chemtrails to most in the USA, I decided to change it by splitting the word up to distance myself from the U.S people who deal with that subject) I am just wondering if we are being lied to, it has happened before, maybe politicians arn't even aware.
Thankyou for your opinions,
kind regards,
with respect,
Paul T
PS: if there is a 'they' the idea is that they are unknown so how can we know who 'they' are?! we only see the front men, not the hidden hand as it is refered to, or the clique, and many other terms, NWO, Illuminati, etc. |
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Badger 69
Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 38 Location: North West Coast of England.
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:00 am Post subject: |
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| People should look up more ..... these damn chemtrails are poisoning our atmosphere with un-natural substances. |
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stopchemtrailsuk
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 15 Location: Brighton, East Sussex at present (UK)
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:10 pm Post subject: In reply to Badger69 |
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Badger 69 Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:00 am Post subject:
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People should look up more ..... these damn chemtrails are poisoning our atmosphere with un-natural substances
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Thankyou for adding to this thread Badger69,
I hope you will contact me and we can then talk in private via E-mail:
stopchemtrailsuk @ yahoo.co.uk
type or cut 'n' paste it and join up the address without gaps.
I hope to read from you as I am looking for members to join my E-group.
kind regards,
Paul T  |
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k_lifter

Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 7031 Location: Don't watch tv - the mind has no firewall.
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k_lifter

Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 7031 Location: Don't watch tv - the mind has no firewall.
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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| jasonthebleep wrote: | Have you actually got any evidence? When did this conspiracy start - for example have you tried to source images from the birth of the jet age to see if contrails were the same in the 50's - or are you alleging that even back then the conspiracy was in existance?
I know that contrails existed with piston engined aircraft. There are images out there of contrails criss-crossing the skies of england during the battle of britain. Are you suggesting that the conspiracy existed as far back as the 40's?
Could it be that the large number of contrails in evidence above us today is merely the evidence of the proliferation of cheap air travel, and a multiplying of the number of aircraft in the skies?
Have you looked at why contrails form? Are you aware that they only form in when certain conditions are in existance in the atmosphere. Have you any experimental evidence using a control to see if a natural contrail disperses in the same way as on of your alleged chemtrails?
Have you carried out any research at all using the scientific method? |
Why discount it with such recklessness? There are some very clever people involved in trying to find out what's going on. Don't you think they've considered every avenue? They've even tested the residue and found it contains pathogens and heavy metals - so why not do your own research?
Here's some very convincing evidence as to the existence and oddity of chemtrails.
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/report.shtml
My personal view; by 2012 we're all fucked - seriously. Do you think this planet can carry on the way it is? |
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 4:19 pm Post subject: chemtrails |
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| i dont know,anything is possible in this mad world run by maniacs |
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truthseeker33
Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 4 Location: Brighton
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:58 pm Post subject: Chem Trails |
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Whats the matter with you people ? Evidence my God I have so much evidence. They are not " They " in fact those responsible are the N.W.O.
The Planes are Black no markings no letters no flags against all Aviation laws. The Aircraft have permission to do this other wise they would be shot down.
So that tells you How much New Labour love the Common people.
Toxicology reports ,photos ,videos ,eyewitness testimony ,pilot confessions etc etc What other evidence do you need for a court case?
oh yes Why hasn't there been a court case or media coverage or a police investigation......Mmmmmmmmm I wonder if the Free masonic Rosicrucian - Luciferians aka the N.W.O. will prosecute their own.? No.
Read Agenda 21 on the U.N. Website. |
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:10 am Post subject: |
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| chemtrails,utter nonsense the ravings of loony s who are most likely on illegal substances. |
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jasonthebleep

Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 73
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Truthseeker - there is no way to put this without offending you if you are putting across your true point of view.
Are you taking the mickey?
(If this is a Wah, ok you got me) |
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truthseeker33
Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 4 Location: Brighton
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:05 pm Post subject: Toxic Spray |
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Sorry but you obviously don't have the ability to face up to reality.
Please think a little before ranting nonsense.
How much evidence do you need for a conviction in a court of Law ?
Eye witnesses , video evidence, photographic evidence , forensic evidence, motive etc etc.
Why are you denying the self evident ?
Unfortunately these sites are monitored by those that work for the conspirators & those that carry out the crimes or cover them up . Obviously the criminals will deny the evidence & spread disinformation.
Are you seriously suggesting that large Aircraft flying in tandem in teams of ten or more flying low level over houses schools & hosptals spraying toxic chemicals & doing nothing wrong ?
It is illegal ...Public Endangerment.
The flights are not Registered with the C.A.A. The Flights have no markings or letters or numbers or flags for identification despite the fact that this is mandatory for all aircraft even Stealth Bombers . Obviously this means the Aircraft are not spraying vitiams. Even the RAF have identification marks.
I have phd Doctorate Educated Professional Toxicologist Reports.
The Spray contains Aluminium Oxide Bariuim Molds & Polymer Fibres. Sedatives & various psychotropic cognative modifiers.Your denials are irrelevant. Facts are Facts .
So you are wrong & have done no research at all .
It is a waste of time to argue against the evidence when all the documents written by the people resposible ADMIT what they are doing & thus even they admit the facts. If some one confesses to the crime & 10,000 people are eye witnesses, with thousands of videos & thousands of photographs & dozens of toxicology who are you to deny the evidence ?
What is wrong with you people ?
Try reading .
Henry Kissinger
Zbigniew Brzezinski
CFR
Triilateral Commisiion
U.N. Depratment of Population Control
D.O.E. Direct , Indiredt Areosol Cc Campaign
Agenda 21
Dr . Sock PHD Eugenicist
Eugenics Society
Planed Parenthood
I think it is so pathetic that some people make derogatory remarks about intelligent people simply because they have no evidence to the contrary.
Lets all induldge in Generalizations. All straight people are lovely . All drug users are evil. Alcohol is a wondeful thing & does no harm. Ciggarettes get rid of head aches.
Watson & Crick took LSD before discovering DNA...they must be wrong , John Lennon had a spliff wow what a shock shame about his music, Bill gates liked Lsd & Mescaline oh what an idiot computers will never catch on, & Mr Richard Branson took Ecstacy & smoked a doobie with his son... must be mad what an abusive father. They must all be conspiratory freaks. Just because ......no reason.
Do Your Homework.
http://www.willthomas.net/Chemtrails/About_Chemtrails.htm
http://www.rense.com/politics6/chemdatapage.html
http://www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm
http://educate-yourself.org/ct/
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/
http://www.greatdreams.com/chems.htm
http://www.workingtv.com/chemtrails.html
http://www.bariumblues.com/
http://www.chemtrails911.com/index.htm
http://www.lightwatcher.com/chemtrails/hos.html
http://www.carnicom.com/
http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?
option=com_content&task=category§ionid=6&id=20&Itemid=50 |
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truthseeker33
Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 4 Location: Brighton
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:06 pm Post subject: Toxic Spray |
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Sorry but you obviously don't have the ability to face up to reality.
Please think a little before ranting nonsense.
How much evidence do you need for a conviction in a court of Law ?
Eye witnesses , video evidence, photographic evidence , forensic evidence, motive etc etc.
Why are you denying the self evident ?
Unfortunately these sites are monitored by those that work for the conspirators & those that carry out the crimes or cover them up . Obviously the criminals will deny the evidence & spread disinformation.
Are you seriously suggesting that large Aircraft flying in tandem in teams of ten or more flying low level over houses schools & hosptals spraying toxic chemicals & doing nothing wrong ?
It is illegal ...Public Endangerment.
The flights are not Registered with the C.A.A. The Flights have no markings or letters or numbers or flags for identification despite the fact that this is mandatory for all aircraft even Stealth Bombers . Obviously this means the Aircraft are not spraying vitiams. Even the RAF have identification marks.
I have phd Doctorate Educated Professional Toxicologist Reports.
The Spray contains Aluminium Oxide Bariuim Molds & Polymer Fibres. Sedatives & various psychotropic cognative modifiers.Your denials are irrelevant. Facts are Facts .
So you are wrong & have done no research at all .
It is a waste of time to argue against the evidence when all the documents written by the people responsible ADMIT what they are doing & thus even they admit the facts. If some one confesses to the crime & 10,000 people are eye witnesses, with thousands of videos & thousands of photographs & dozens of toxicology who are you to deny the evidence ?
What is wrong with you people ?
Try reading .
Henry Kissinger
Zbigniew Brzezinski
CFR
Triilateral Commisiion
U.N. Depratment of Population Control
D.O.E. Direct , Indiredt Areosol Cc Campaign
Agenda 21
Dr . Sock PHD Eugenicist
Eugenics Society
Planed Parenthood
I think it is so pathetic that some people make derogatory remarks about intelligent people simply because they have no evidence to the contrary.
Lets all induldge in Generalizations. All straight people are lovely . All drug users are evil. Alcohol is a wondeful thing & does no harm. Ciggarettes get rid of head aches.
Watson & Crick took LSD before discovering DNA...they must be wrong , John Lennon had a spliff wow what a shock shame about his music, Bill gates liked Lsd & Mescaline oh what an idiot computers will never catch on, & Mr Richard Branson took Ecstacy & smoked a doobie with his son... must be mad what an abusive father. They must all be conspiratory freaks. Just because ......no reason.
Do Your Homework.
http://www.willthomas.net/Chemtrails/About_Chemtrails.htm
http://www.rense.com/politics6/chemdatapage.html
http://www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm
http://educate-yourself.org/ct/
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/
http://www.greatdreams.com/chems.htm
http://www.workingtv.com/chemtrails.html
http://www.bariumblues.com/
http://www.chemtrails911.com/index.htm
http://www.lightwatcher.com/chemtrails/hos.html
http://www.carnicom.com/
http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?
option=com_content&task=category§ionid=6&id=20&Itemid=50 |
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jasonthebleep

Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 73
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:48 am Post subject: |
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I'm sorry if my post seemed to rile you somewhat. I can believe that such activity is happening - that the US Govt is carrying out this activity for various reasons.
However you are not helping your cause by posting links to people who probably wear tin foil hats to stop the satelites from reading their minds.
Some of these links provide useful well thought out discussion - but on another there are instructions about how to build a cloud buster and how it managed to scare off hostile UFO's.
As for unmarked helicopters / AC - I have watched some of the footage of these on youtube - the reason you couldn't see the markings and they looked black was that the AC was against the sun.
I would repeat again - there is alot of thoughtful research carried out to prove chemtrails exist and that they are harmful. Unfortunetly, some other stuff is nuttier than squirrel shit. |
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ToXiC WaStE DuMp

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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:04 am Post subject: |
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I never knew for people to question and think for themselves was classed as Nutty??
Perhaps people shouldn’t ask questions or even think.
Would you prefer that?????
Gosh, maybe we should all be born without brains, it would make this world much more easier to manipulate wouldn’t it??
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ShallWeDanceTonight?

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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| ToXiC WaStE DuMp wrote: | ... Gosh, maybe we should all be born without brains, it would make this world much more easier to manipulate wouldn’t it??
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Considering how people act with brains, I doubt lacking them could make it any easier for maniuplation to occur.
Sometimes, shit is shit, and people try hard to see patterns that are not there. |
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ToXiC WaStE DuMp

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Also some people have illusions due to the toxicity in the food and the water they drink.
Its even known to affect new born babies with deformities. |
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