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twiggy
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Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Posts: 445
Location: Richmond

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:52 am    Post subject: Buying and Selling - top tips for staying safe Reply with quote

If you are using Gumtree to buy or sell then here are our top tips for staying safe:
    o When buying or selling, you should meet in-person to see the item and exchange money. The purpose of the Gumtree “For Sale” categories is to encourage face-to-face, local, trading. For personal ease and safety, always ensure you take someone with you. If you're answering a home service ad, ask the poster to produce identity and proof of qualification before inviting them into your home.

    o Never send your item before receiving the money

    o Never send or wire money to sellers or buyers. This includes never mailing a cheque or using payment services like Bidpay, Western Union or Money Gram to pay for items found on Gumtree. It is our belief that these forms of funds transfer are favoured by fraudsters.

    o Gumtree doesn’t offer any sort of buyer protection/ payment programs. Any emails that talk about such systems are scams, even if they may have the Gumtree logo. If you receive any emails promoting these services, please report it to us.

    o Please also take special care when buying expensive items like mobile phones, laptops, plasma TVs, airline tickets, cars, bikes and even tickets for shows/gigs. When buying airline tickets we suggest you take the seller's name and ticket number, check the ticket exists and take responsibility yourself for changing the names. For bikes ask the seller for the security serial number - check this with the police who will alert you whether the bike has been stolen.

    o Never provide your personal or banking information (e.g. credit card number) to others over the Internet.

    o Make yourself aware of common scams and fraud - see:
    http://forums.gumtree.com/about39.html

    Do not believe the promise of large sums of money for your help in any task.

    o Report any illegal/ suspicious ads to us using the 'Report this ad for Gumtree admin review' link. In case of fraud or illegal activity (stolen goods), we also recommend that you report it to the Police.

    o Use your common sense. If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
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victor 10



Joined: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: am l being scammed Reply with quote

l live in Scotland and want to buy from London. If l send the money as l have been asked to to Gumtree they will forward it when l have recieved the item. Is this dodgy. Or is this what Gumtree do???? Help before l part with £999
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Roo-man
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Joined: 03 Feb 2006
Posts: 133

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:54 am    Post subject: dodgy Reply with quote

HI Victor 10.
This is dodgy. Gumtree never acts as a 3rd party in any transactions, so if this person is saying that Gumtree will hold the money, they are trying to defraud you. Do not send this money under any circumstances.
Contact us with their details and we will do our best to stop them operating on Gumtree.
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tv77



Joined: 08 May 2007
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just had someone do the same thing to me and have already given my postal address for shipping - what do I do now - I have the listing number and her email address, can I report this to you as I have email Gumtree-Protection@london.com and requested that they verify this is not a scam and they replied:

Dear Customer,

We dont give any protection to the seller who accept for payment WesternUnion or Money Gram. Our company will give protection to the seller or buyer who accept for payment only Bank Transfer.

Rest Regards

their spelling is shocking and I am assuming you guys would check your spelling....

Have I gone too far by giving out my postal address and telephone number?

I have not paid the money as they gave me an account in Italy which made me suspicious?
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Bluey
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Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Posts: 4637

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Report the Ad to Gumtree admin so they can take down the listing.

http://www.gumtree.com/help/stay_safe#item85

They will give you advice on how to deal with it. Simply ignore the scammer in the meantime and don't send any money.
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vbleck



Joined: 04 Jul 2007
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:55 pm    Post subject: havaianas Reply with quote

i'm selling for £10.
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Auctions-United.com
 
 


Joined: 04 Jun 2007
Posts: 245
Location: Weymouth

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The easiest way to stay safe

I don't mean to sound big headed in any way but I have bought and sold for 5 years and never been conned yet (only by an auction site funny enough)

I am no super brain I just use common sense, when someone offers me something for nothing I say no thanks and when they offer more than what I want, I say no thanks, it's not rocket science..... Think d'oh!
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dealgiant.co.uk



Joined: 28 Jul 2007
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:35 am    Post subject: Awareness Reply with quote

I think the awareness level of an average user is much higher than before, good business practice and honest dealing goes a long way, the biggest example is right before your eyes "GUMTREE" Smile
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dealgiant.co.uk



Joined: 28 Jul 2007
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:07 am    Post subject: Some basic things to keep in mind Reply with quote

As a reviewer and shopping adviser I can give you a quick list of things to keep in mind while shopping online.

It does not apply specifically to this site but shopping considerations to be made in general or more specifically "internet shopping"

Reviews

Do check reviews and opinions gathered about the seller, either by tracking seller's history or by looking at comments made by other people.

Item Details

In a lot of cases some minor details in product descriptions go un-noticed and causes a lot of distress upon receiving the actuall goods, its always a good practice to pay your absolute attention to the minor details and descriptions

Ask Questions

Its never a good idea to rush and make an impulse purchase, getting replies from sellers increases trust and reduces confusion.

Terms and Conditions
Look for payment and delivery terms, duration goods will be shipped etc

Contact

Its always preferable to find sellers that you can have a word with specially when the good are of a high value.

I hope these tips provide some basic help for novice buyers

good day!
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uroy71



Joined: 06 Aug 2007
Posts: 35
Location: London

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:09 pm    Post subject: scams and safe trading Reply with quote

Do not just send anything to anyone without money no matter what they say.Have no sympathy and trust but trust the money you receive then send the goods.
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eso



Joined: 28 Feb 2006
Posts: 30

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just be sensible and question every purchase. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.

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www.trafficmonkey.co.uk
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vitaliok



Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Posts: 3
Location: Hayes, GBR

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: Re: am l being scammed Reply with quote

victor 10 wrote:
l live in Scotland and want to buy from London. If l send the money as l have been asked to to Gumtree they will forward it when l have recieved the item. Is this dodgy. Or is this what Gumtree do???? Help before l part with £999




The best way to keep safe when buying something on internet is to pay money only by PayPal!


In this case the seller won't have any other chances, because if you don't receive your desired item, you can contact your card issuer to chargeback(reversal on your account). In such case the seller's account will become negative and will face with Debt Collectors which will really ruine credit history of seller
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apextickets



Joined: 11 Nov 2007
Posts: 31

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:46 pm    Post subject: Re: am l being scammed Reply with quote

vitaliok wrote:
victor 10 wrote:
l live in Scotland and want to buy from London. If l send the money as l have been asked to to Gumtree they will forward it when l have recieved the item. Is this dodgy. Or is this what Gumtree do???? Help before l part with £999




The best way to keep safe when buying something on internet is to pay money only by PayPal!

In this case the seller won't have any other chances, because if you don't receive your desired item, you can contact your card issuer to chargeback(reversal on your account). In such case the seller's account will become negative and will face with Debt Collectors which will really ruine credit history of seller


yes Paypal and Gumtree do their best to paint that wonderfull picture in your head... If i set up a paypal just to scam, take £999 from you and transfer it to my bank... you have NO CHANCE of getting a penny back.

ps regarding the email put up earlier... if that is a scam that makes their whole website a scam www.london.com so maybe you can chase through that.
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vitaliok



Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Posts: 3
Location: Hayes, GBR

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're very wrong!


So what if you wire money to bank account?



If I send funds using credit card via PayPal, I can fil out a claim or even go to bank and request CHAREGEBACK!


And in this case, the things doesn't matter, the bank reverse authorization and seller will become authomatically in negative ballance.

Once the receiver of funds gets in negative ballance, paypal transmits the debtor data to debt collection agency.
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max115
 
 


Joined: 25 Oct 2007
Posts: 457

PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vitaliok wrote:
You're very wrong!


So what if you wire money to bank account?



If I send funds using credit card via PayPal, I can fil out a claim or even go to bank and request CHAREGEBACK!


And in this case, the things doesn't matter, the bank reverse authorization and seller will become authomatically in negative ballance.

Once the receiver of funds gets in negative ballance, paypal transmits the debtor data to debt collection agency.



what if u provide proof of postage to paypal..?
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Oyinbo



Joined: 28 Jan 2008
Posts: 19
Location: Nottingham

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:25 pm    Post subject: HOW NOT TO GET SCAMMED!!!!!!!!! Reply with quote

HI ALL, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GET SCAMMED THEN LISTEN UP!!

I HAVE BEEN MARRIED TO AN NIGERIAN LADY FOR A LONG TIME AND
I KNOW ALL THE TRICKS,SO MUCH SO THAT I'LL TELL YOU HOW THEY DO
IT. THEY WORK ON THE PREMISE THAT ALL OYINBO'S (WHITES) AND
DUDU'S (BLACKS) AND MOSTLY EVERYBODY ELSE IS GREEDY. THEY WILL
OFFER SOMETHING BEYOND BELEIF,LIKE LOOKING A GIFT HORSE IN THE
MOUTH. I HAVE SEEN THESE PEOPLE AT WORK IN NIGERIA GHANA
HOLLAND FRANCE SOUTH AFRICA AND THE UK. THEY WILL SCAM THEIR
FAMILY MEMBERS SONS DAUGHTERS FATHERS MOTHERS AND ANYBODY
ELSE. NOT ALL NIGERIAN'S OR AFRICAN'S ARE LIKE THIS.

DON'T YOU REMEMBER THE OLD BLOKE IN NOTTINGHAM WHO LOST
110,000 POUNDS? OR THEN THEIR WAS THE AMERICAN LADY WHO WAS
SCAMMED OUT OF $250,000!! THEY WILL INCLUDE THEIR WHOLE FAMILY
TO PERPETRATE A SCAM. SO IF YOU WANT TO STAY SAFE EVEN FOR A
PAIR OF RUGBY TICKETS,OR HAIR STRAIGHTENERS,CAR, MOBILE OR
ANYTHING EVEN YOUR DETAILS. KEEP THIS LINK BELOW AND CHECK
IT OUT. IT COULD SAVE YOU FROM BEING SCAMMED,DUPED OR 419d
you would not believe me about the number of scams out there.


http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/
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a_Bigdaddy



Joined: 25 Feb 2008
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Computers _ Chinese scams Reply with quote

Check out the website of the reply you get in these huge lists of Chinese scams:
http://www.firetrust.com/en/blog/chris/confucius-says-the-cautious-seldom-err
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CONNECT
 
 


Joined: 27 Feb 2008
Posts: 63
Location: MANCHESTER

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:52 pm    Post subject: PAYPAL IS SAFE Reply with quote

I agree with the post which states that Paypal is a safe option, especially if it is mail order, or an advert from someone who lives a distance away.

If you do not get the goods just click on the button on paypal, and they will investigate.

Good Luck and Safe Trading
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PeterAnthony



Joined: 28 Jun 2008
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:36 am    Post subject: Oakley Sunglasses Reply with quote

The safe way when buying something in internet is through Paypal......

http://www.demon-clothing.com/
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