[Cov]

weeowen ... investment doesn't mean you have to triple your provits rather than double them. Lack of money is a key issue in our world, having enough apparently enables to solve ANY kind of problem.

I dare to doubt that.
You completely ignore the responsibility of landlords and focus on the profit side only. Our society has given some people the oportunity to gather valueable possessions like houses. Renting out these houses to people who need a place to keep them alive, for having a roof above their heads.
To provide that is part of the responsibility of landlords. It's not only about their profits.

And my statement does not contradict itself.
You forget that people like to gamble. If landlords buy a property, they gamble because there's a risk involved.
If landlords meet a wealthy potential tenant (thus he could be an asshole like mentioned above), he couldn't be any happier to accept this tenant. As you and everybody else knows, high risk people often get away with murder and live a very pleasent life. Justice is just a dream of the poor.
What goes around, doesn't come around.

[Cov]

montyzuma ... so your tenant was due with the rent and you didn't have any deposit to replace that ?

This kind of discussions will continue until human beings are extinct from the world.
The arguments about what is mine and what is yours.

I wonder if both of you would be taken away the supply of air for a while. You would be so happy to be able to breathe.

Then both of you would be taken away the food supply.
You would be so happy to be able to eat again.

Then both of you would be taken away the only person you love in this world.
You would be so happy to get back in touch again.

Then both of you would be taken away any social contact.
You would be so happy to speak to a human being again.

Then you would be presented the situation you're in now.
And you suddenly realize how pathetic your worries and pursuing of materialism is.

People need the contrast to being able to see.

Before you reply to this posting of mine, I'd like you to think it over first.

[weeowen]

You really have quite the innocent view of the world.

[Cov]

weeowen ... I would call it realistic.
You have figured already that I'm not on the landlord's side.

When we were born we were innocent.
Then we became corrupted because our society just works like that.

Later, when we're old, we realize what bullshit that was.
But our defence mechanism is strong enough to continue lying to ourselves ... for us not to reject our past.

You need to be honest & innocent to be able to look through this rotten system. If you're part of it, you can't see the forest because of too many trees in the way.

[weeowen]

Division exisits.

That is life. To say otherwise is optimisitic. We're not creatures devoid of self-choice, and so there will always be inequality where there is such volumes of people, and choice in our lives.

[Cov]

Agreed.

But it is the amount of inequality that needs to be corrected.
If it is in your favour of course, then you'd support its continuance.
You seem to support the rotten system which we have in tight grip.
Of course I'm not that stupid to demand absolute equality, that would be unrealistic.

Just to say that's life, I think that's exactly the attitude that keeps everything like it is.
If every improvement in the past would have been waved with the justification that's just life, we wouldn't have improvements at all.

What you're saying here slaps the faces of all those who fight for human rights in general.

I think you'd match perfectly to London ... my friend.

[weeowen]

[Cov]

weeowen ... that are not my inequality issues.
I had my suspicion before but now I'm sure that you're an arrogant person.

And I wonder if there's anything that bothers you at all, besides being able to put your opinions on gumtree.

Welcome to my ignore list.

[weeowen]

[Bluey]

There are a number of reasons why Housing Benefit Claimants (or Local Housing Allowance, it's replacement) are unpopular.

HB claimants do include the most vulnerable groups, including long-term Incapacity claimants, many of whom have mental health or addiction problems, which means that they are lumped in with the type of people who are least likely to be reliable tenants.

There is a perception (note perception rather than the reality) that apart from those with disabilities, the remainder are seen as workshy scroungers, feckless single mothers, etc.

The payment system is bureaucratic, paid 4 weekly in arrears and often pay less than market rent - many reasons why a working tenant paying in advance on a monthly basis is more desirable.

Claimants are harder to evict - local council homeless units insist that the occupants stay put when they receive a notice to quit until the landlord gains a court order, otherwise the local council will deem the tenant to have intentionally made themselves homeless. A working tenant is easier to evict as they know that the local authority is unlikely to give them any social housing when the landlord asks them to leave.

The change from HB to LHA has removed about the only basic safety that made it attractive for landlords to rent to claimants. New claims are paid directly to the tenant, instead of the landlord, so now there is an anxiety that the rent is likely to be squandered instead of passed on.

HB/LHA claimants are deeply unpopular and even though previous posters have not put this diplomatically, it remains the case that there is a continuing struggle for the poorest to have affordable accommodation because of population growth and the loss of social housing.

Tenants on state support may look to private landlords to fill the void but they operate businesses, not social services, and claimants carry substantially higher risk and thus lower profit.

[naomij]

weeowen, my blood is BOILING and not many peeople can do that to me. I would love to meet up with you so you can tell me that I should be working to my face!!!

Anything can happen to anyone at any time of life so there are many different circumstances in life why people claim housing benefit, so to just shurg your shoulders and say we all should be working is just plain idiotic.

Come and talk to me about my life then tell me if i should be working or not, and if you decided i should i would like you to help me do it, but i bet you would not be interested in that would you, you just like to spout out shit but not actually do anything about it...

I am fully aware of people claiming because they are lazy amd don't have anything better to do or want to do in life, but i can assure you that is the minoirity.

Dont judge ALL people because they claim benefits, you don't know their story and the truth is many people on the benefits would rather not be and are simply trying to make a better life for themselves.

[b]Just one point, housing benefit if paid direct to the landlord is guranteed to be paid and is always on time, even if the tenant does a runner, a working tenant does not have to pass on the rent if they do not want to nor do they have to pay it on time, oh and of course can run off and leave you right in it.[/b]

Flipping silly people, no common sense the lot of ya.

[Bluey]

[RayaJ]

Can i just add that landlords get scammed by people who aren't on housing benefits too. A minority of people have no respect for other peoples belongings let alone their own.

It will be my first time renting and unfortunately i don't earn enough money to make up the full rent and still have money to survive... so i have to claim HB. Its a load of shit. Lanlords are so reluctant to rent out to us because of 1 bad experience. If they knew me as a person then they would have no problems in saying sure.

I come from a very healthy family background. Im going to be a full time student in september, work and be a mum so i will have no time watsoever to work full time- if i could i would. I refuse to leave me perfectly well maintained house to move into a shitty flat with crap decor, dirty carpet and smell of cigarettes/dogs, because my 8 month old daughter deserves 100 TIMES better than that. I think we are treated unfairly because of this stereotypical stigma of 'yobs'. I have 3 a-levels grades ABB and am going on to do a degree. thats probably more than people who aren't of benefits have achieved!!! IM PROUD OF MYSELF personally and i can't wait until i've saved enough money to put down as a deposit for a flat and mortgage and earning 30-40k a year!

POWER TO THE GOOD HB/DSS TENANTS! KEEP SEARCHING AND FIGHTING FOR WHAT YOU DESERVE! EQUALITY!

[jacqueline2022]

Can i ask which agentcy you have been to that have offered you some properties?
I am currently trying to go privertly or something!!

I live in lewisham so i have gone to to catford capital housing which gave me a list of agents that deal with dss, but if you dont live in catford etc my advice is to ring the housing benefit and you council and ask them where you need to go to get a list of landlords accepting dss.
As well as a copy of how much your local council are willing to pay up to towards your accommodation.
bear in mind that private accommodation is smaller and its easier to get evicted but i have been assured that if you go privatly you dont loose you place on the council list.

[Dr Eugenics]

Love the way all you brave folks are having a go at Bixter, have you not realised that his taxes pay for your food and keep a roof over your heads ? Also providing you with free education and health care.

If he is the idiot how come he's got a job and owns property and you are dependent on the hard work of others like Bixter ?

Ooops sorry your benefits are provided by the tooth fairy

[bigblueeyes]

[gums]

yes most places dont wanna know when it comes to houseing benifits will take you long and hard to find a decent place that does i think

[Dr Eugenics]

"you decide to charge for rent "Big blueeyes at what point did I say I was a landlord ?

I would not rent out property full stop, to working or otherwise (especially in this economic climate).

My money is tied up in my IT company. Which at the right time I will sell and go abroad where they don't have an insane tax and benefits system, which only pays out to those who shout loudest.

[maurie]

bister i went to uni too that doesnt mean anything just coz you are on benefits doesnt mean you have no aspirations. i am currently dsssetiing up a business which is very difficult and time consuming so i cannout work 40 hours a week i am trying to better myself and I am being punished by ignorant people like you.

[naomij]

Dr Eugenics

PLEASE SHUT UP!!!! Hurry and move to this country without tax where you will be happy and do us all a BIG favour.

God forbid your planned career goes wrong and you end up going bust, because of course your perfect and never have to depend on anyone. Well done, you life must be so lonely.... I mean fulfilling.

I worked for a many years before I had to claim benefits so right now I am still claiming back what I earnt, and as for you paying for it you can FUCK RIGHT OFF, my mum and dad earn more than enough to cover my benefits thank you and they do not complain.

I am not proud that I need help, but unfortunately I do right now, however it is only for a short while. Don't need to bother justifying myself completely to you, but if you like I am willing to meet up and discuss face to face?

Good luck with your business venture and I hope it all works out for you.

[Dr Eugenics]

Thank you Naomij for backing up my argument (and dragging the discussion into the sewer), while folk like me and Bixter are keeping you this is how you repay us. If you behaved like that to a landlord no wonder they would'nt take on HB tenants.

No need for good luck, already successful, thanks all the same.

"God forbid your planned career goes wrong and you end up going bust, because of course your perfect and never have to depend on anyone. Well done, you life must be so lonely.... I mean fulfilling."

My drive comes from being made redundant and not being able to claim what I had paid for, and lonely no I have a long term partner who is a career woman but thanks for the concern.

Won't waste anymore time with you

au revoir

Dr E x

[Cov]

Dr Eugenics ... why are the biggest dumb fucks are the most arrogant people ?

The bigger the mouth - the dumber they are ... and you are very, very dumb indeed.

[ykaren1]

i am currently a 29 year old single mum who is in receipt of housing benefit. i am working 30 hours a week and going to college 21 hours a week i can not get a private rent in my area that my daughter is at school. landlords r just not interested in dss at all, which is really surpriseing because its garunteed rent. i know it is paid 4 weeks in arrears but if they got the first month in advance then where is the problem.

im disgusted in the responce form some of the landlords who have replied about scum and drug users etc it is a bad name given to the wrong people. i dont drink or smoke or do drugs or do any of the friends i have who are on benefits. people shouldnt be judged just because of other peoples mistakes.

i am currently living with my parents on a sofa and my daughter on a blow up baed we have been for 5 months since my divorce, i think landlords should give more consideration to this and perhaps meet potential renters of there properties. worcester is terrible and even the council list is 18 months long so my time here seems endless.

if anyone knows of any decent landlords in worcester could you let me know.

many thanks
karen

[Bluey]

[naomij]

Dr blah blah blah blah

WHATEVER!!!!!

You and Bixter aint keeping me nowhere, but if it helps you sleep at night......

You obviously preffered to IGNORE the fact that I USED TO WORK AND MY PARENTS STILL DO NOT TO MENTION THE REST OF MY FAMILY!!!!!

You tax money is spent on far more stupid things than benefits i can assure you. Why don't you go off and moan about that.


Like i said if you wanna dicsuss this face to face with me i'm ready. Then you can pass your blinking silly jugdement.