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ammie
 
 


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:02 am    Post subject: Has Jamie's health drive killed off school meals? Reply with quote

School meals are in danger of being scrapped because children are rejecting healthy Jamie Oliver-style menus, caterers warned.

Instead of buying the new lunches made from fresh ingredients, youngsters are relying on cheap takeaways and snack food to get them through the day.

The Local Authority Caterers Association told a conference in Birmingham: "In 2007, the picture is one of considerable concern over the future viability of the school meals service, particularly in secondary schools."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=467959&in_page_id=1770


I remember dinners when i was at school and they were horrible,whats the matter with kids today, dont they care that they are going to be huge?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last year, mothers in Rotherham staged a rebellion outside Rawmarsh Comprehensive School against the imposition of healthy meals.

Instead of backing the drive for lowfat dinners, they offered to collect fish and chips, hamburgers and fizzy drinks for children and were taking up to 60 orders a day.


This is so wrong IMO.

What is wrong with parents? yea nowt wrong with having a take away but everyday Shocked

They should be backing this healthy eating not providing them with heart failure food.
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ammie
 
 


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:32 am    Post subject: school meals Reply with quote

An issue for all local governments is the cost implication. If they stick with the healthy eating options, and 3/10 of kids buy them, it becomes expensive. If they give in and bring back fried food, then the loose not only central government money for healthy initiatives but a backlash from media and local residents.

Difficult situation. A fine balance is needed. The issue i find is that kids are very fickle, and people bow to pressure from them. We are in a society where we treat children like adults. This is the underlying issue behind all this, not the snotty nosed, ilk that is Jamie Oliver!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

when i was at school, my mum would give me a pound - and as the baker did the best chips and cheese - i went there.....there is no way i would eat healthily...but when i got home i would have a brilliant meal prepared by mother dearest hehe

so it outweighed the chips frenzy....
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Asiya
 
 


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I have to say, I guess I was just lucky then...at my first two schools the meals were really healthy and really yummy! The puds were obviously not always quite so healthy... I have never had custard quite so delish as at primary school however... Razz

The roasts were yum, the fruit crumbles were, even the veg wasn't usually 'water stodge', yep, I really liked school meals, and had the bonus of mum's homecooking too!

It was only at upper school that the meals became 'hit n miss'... but I used to really like the chips covered with lashings of liver and onion gravy... Laughing

Am I the only one who actually miss some of the 'food'... I knew a housekeeper who would bake 'chocolate toothpaste tart'...a real blast from the past...it was great! hehe Laughing
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Asiya
 
 


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:27 pm    Post subject: Re: school meals Reply with quote

beetlebum wrote:
An issue for all local governments is the cost implication. If they stick with the healthy eating options, and 3/10 of kids buy them, it becomes expensive. If they give in and bring back fried food, then the loose not only central government money for healthy initiatives but a backlash from media and local residents.

Difficult situation. A fine balance is needed. The issue i find is that kids are very fickle, and people bow to pressure from them. We are in a society where we treat children like adults. This is the underlying issue behind all this, not the snotty nosed, ilk that is Jamie Oliver!


I have to say I agree, none of my friends or my own relatives ever had the junk that is the 'norm' nowadays...and we didn't push our plates away in a strop... even if we didn't like a meal- manners would have meant that no matter what, we would not have glared, insulted or in any way shown disrespect for the one who had cooked the meal...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was made to sit to the table until i finished my dinner, and my dad meant it to, there was none of this..i want this and the other wants that..it was one meal..eat it end of story!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I always thought the Poms' favourite mockney would have a hard job weaning sprogs off regular British cooking.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only eat healthy food. Fresh fruit and vegetables are tops Exclamation
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ammie
 
 


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Razz
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Asiya
 
 


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy No wonder I couldn't find the thread! Laughing Get going...did you actually like the smolina with the chocolate curls on top? I DID! hehe
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ammie
 
 


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing It wont last.

No-body cares about school dinners, or kids getting fat.. sign of the times. Sad
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Asiya
 
 


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

but even with the diet, if parents took kiddies out more, and they got exercise, then the weight issue would also cease? For goodness sake young children are on anti-depressants! How tragic and wrong is that?
Crying or Very sad
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ammie
 
 


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Are they ?

Doctors allow this ?

That is bad.fix it with a pill thats all they say these days.
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Asiya
 
 


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know, many children are on meds that are unsuitable, they 'veg em out', they have counselling, they have messed up lives. Its so wrong. A real sign of a society failing. I have to admit I do like the family values in Islam, I do like making sure my children have someone who is their, and who listens.

Sadly I know some Mothers (the lady in the next bed to me in hospital handed her son over to mum because she preferred her 'skunk' and clubs to the 'boredom of motherhood... then a year on, had another baby! why???
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh but non muslims are good mums and dads to.

I dont think its a religious thing, i think its a priority thing, putting the children first.

Well no wonder kids dont give two hoots if their parents dont.

Tough love is needed with these kiddies..the way they talk and act.. its disgraceful.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FFS! The Daily Mail is blowing this all out of proportion. WTF is the Local Authority Caterers Association anyway? Do we need a such an association?


Big deal! It states that a few schools/local authorities have made a loss. WTF do they mean by that anyway? Do they expect to make a profit from school meals? Or are they simply looking to break even? The article explains fuck all. Typical fucking DM news.

I don't care about the denial of choice, this was what prompted that group of Mums to run errands for the kids last year at lunch time to get them chips and fizzy drinks etc, but neither these Mums or anyone else gave a fuck about then lack of choice when only fatty foods and unhealthy stuff was on their kids school menu.

These fucking local authorities should subsidise the school meals anyway. I honestly don't mind my council tax being used to provide healthy nutritious food for school kids, even though I'm not a parent. There's plenty of my council tax wasted onother less deserving causes.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jamie Oliver used to make me cringe. He really got on my tits, but when I watched the TV documentary about him and heard his views on this issue, and watched how he tore into officials and a government minister and he won the argument and got them to change government policy etc, I gained respect for the guy. He really cares about the nations kids, and he talks sense. I salute him.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ammie wrote:
Oh but non muslims are good mums and dads to.

I dont think its a religious thing, i think its a priority thing, putting the children first.

Well no wonder kids dont give two hoots if their parents dont.

Tough love is needed with these kiddies..the way they talk and act.. its disgraceful.


my own mum non-muslim, she was strict but fair. I am saying that the majority of muslim households Iv'e been in are family focused...and that most of my non-muslim friends baffle me at times with the I'm not gonna be like my mum and miss out... I think they only miss out on being happy as being parents. I don't think a few years of your life dedicated to caring for your family is a biggee, and the occasional night out appreciated all the more as a consequence.

I have a feeling you'll be a 'family orientated mum' if you have children Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I clicked the link but the following caught my eye..

The lesbian couple whose babies were fathered by a drag queen

"Two lesbians desperate for children. One drag queen happy to help out. The result? Two proud mums who insist - believe it or not - their babies have had the best start in life" Laughing
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Asiya
 
 


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peco wrote:
Jamie Oliver used to make me cringe. He really got on my tits, but when I watched the TV documentary about him and heard his views on this issue, and watched how he tore into officials and a government minister and he won the argument and got them to change government policy etc, I gained respect for the guy. He really cares about the nations kids, and he talks sense. I salute him.


Ditto, he is passionate about his cause, and I admire that. School meals were always wholesome when I went to school. If chips is on the menu once a week, is that such a deprivation? Mum's need to wake up! Why would you want to feed your little ones junk?
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ammie
 
 


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Asiya wrote:
ammie wrote:
Oh but non muslims are good mums and dads to.

I dont think its a religious thing, i think its a priority thing, putting the children first.

Well no wonder kids dont give two hoots if their parents dont.

Tough love is needed with these kiddies..the way they talk and act.. its disgraceful.


my own mum non-muslim, she was strict but fair. I am saying that the majority of muslim households Iv'e been in are family focused...and that most of my non-muslim friends baffle me at times with the I'm not gonna be like my mum and miss out... I think they only miss out on being happy as being parents. I don't think a few years of your life dedicated to caring for your family is a biggee, and the occasional night out appreciated all the more as a consequence.

I have a feeling you'll be a 'family orientated mum' if you have children Very Happy


I hope so.
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Asiya
 
 


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

from what you have told me, I don't doubt it. Very Happy

going now... time for zzs! night night!
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ammie
 
 


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Asiya wrote:
from what you have told me, I don't doubt it. Very Happy

going now... time for zzs! night night!


aww thankyou. x

Me to.. cya
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