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petros
Joined: 09 Apr 2006 Posts: 10 Location: SE15, London
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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:00 pm Post subject: Landlord |
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Hello everybody,
I came to London half a year ago and found a room in the shared house with gumtree. At the beginning everything was fine, landlord was friendly and kind, housemates cool guys. But after some time landlord has started to do strange things. As he moved out from this house only 12 months ago and bought flat nearby, all his post is still coming to this (our) address. This means that he's coming to house quite often and sometimes I come from work and he is in the house. Nothing like let us know that he is coming (which is actually impossible because he's there couple of times a week). We rent 3 rooms here (in 3 bedroom house) so I think he should come here at all. Am I right?
Other thing is that I signed contract for 10 months for certain price. Last week he came that we have new tax year, everything is more expensive and that he increases my rent by 3,7 per cent. I checked my tenancy agreement and there is nothing about his right to increase/change price, just price which I took as firm within these 10 months. Can he increase my rent based on something like this?
I would be very grateful if you could let me know what do you think about this. Many thanks! |
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Sapphire Guest
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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:53 pm Post subject: Well-dodgy! |
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| This landlord sounds well-dodgy!! I am a landlord myself and I always give my tenants as much notice as possible if I need to go in there. I think by law he has to give you 24 hours notice unless there is an absolute emergency (house on fire, being flooded etc). The post thing sounds like he could be on a tax fiddle... If there is no clause for rent increases in your contract it is not likely that he can increase it until you go to renew the contract. I would check with the citizens advice bureau. There may also be some websites which offer free advice too. Worth a try! Good luck! |
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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 8:20 am Post subject: |
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I totally agree, definately a dodgy landlord & would strongly advise going to the CAB. Landlord must give minimum of 24 hours notice in order to have access to property, and must have valid reason. If it is just to check on property once a quarter would be sufficient as far as I am concerned, and landlord cannot without just reason (unless emergency of course). Suggest that you document each time that you find him in your place so that you have some kind of proof and it is not just your word against his. Also the landlord cannot just put up the rent. This can only be done at the time of contract renewal, or if a rent increase has been factored into the contract at the outset (i.e. increase after 3 or 6 months), so you know what you are letting yourself in for at the beginning.
I would also recommend looking for new accommodation as, even if you go thru the proper channels in order to maintain your rights of privacy as a tenant, in a practical sense, you will find that you have a fight on your hands and do you really want the hassle? Not so good I know, but this, I would say, is your best option. |
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Buzz Guest
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:55 am Post subject: landlord |
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I think this all depends on the type of agreement you have. You must be careful because he was living there it may be that you are not a proper tennant but a lodger.
A good place to go for advice is the local council who have a housing officer.
Also from July Landlords have to be registered.
Good luck
ps A landlord doe snot need 24hours notice as reasonable notice is what is required - whateer that maybe |
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petros
Joined: 09 Apr 2006 Posts: 10 Location: SE15, London
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:28 am Post subject: |
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Thank you all for replies. I am definitelly moving out of this place. Situation is getting even worse, landlord is planning loft conversion while we're all here.
Hope I'll find nice place soon and than sit down with my "dear landlord" and tell him about things which are illegal there.
Once again thanks! |
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Pennant The Tenant

Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Posts: 425
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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| petros wrote: | Thank you all for replies. I am definitelly moving out of this place. Situation is getting even worse, landlord is planning loft conversion while we're all here.
Hope I'll find nice place soon and than sit down with my "dear landlord" and tell him about things which are illegal there.
Once again thanks! |
Your renting. If he wants to do a loft conversion he can. Its his property not yours. |
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petros
Joined: 09 Apr 2006 Posts: 10 Location: SE15, London
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Your renting. If he wants to do a loft conversion he can. Its his property not yours. |
Of course he can do it. It's his property. But listening that "guys, you won't know about anything happening in the house" and with thing on mind that other 2 rooms will be added (= more people living for the same price (he confirmed this) =====> time to move out.
Anyway, how would you feel if you wake up, go to the kitchen and find your landlords sitting there and chatting with his mate? Maybe some of you would enjoy it, me not => I am leaving, the same with all of my flatmates. Poor those who will be here later after us... |
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Pennant The Tenant

Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Posts: 425
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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| petros wrote: | | Pennant The Tenant wrote: |
Your renting. If he wants to do a loft conversion he can. Its his property not yours. |
Of course he can do it. It's his property. But listening that "guys, you won't know about anything happening in the house" and with thing on mind that other 2 rooms will be added (= more people living for the same price (he confirmed this) =====> time to move out.
Anyway, how would you feel if you wake up, go to the kitchen and find your landlords sitting there and chatting with his mate? Maybe some of you would enjoy it, me not => I am leaving, the same with all of my flatmates. Poor those who will be here later after us... |
Of course there will be more rooms, fair play to him it means more money. From day dot it seems you were never happy anyway but the property was probably cheap as chips so you were all over it like a rash! To me reading from the start i agree with some things you raise but in general this sounds like your average tenant getting too involved. To get out of this situation you need to pay more money for a service that will come with a smile, however are you a tenant who would turn up at a property which is of a very high standard and drop the line "I have other properties to view" even though the one you've just looked at it excellent? |
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petros
Joined: 09 Apr 2006 Posts: 10 Location: SE15, London
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Pennant The Tenant wrote: | | petros wrote: | | Pennant The Tenant wrote: |
Your renting. If he wants to do a loft conversion he can. Its his property not yours. |
Of course he can do it. It's his property. But listening that "guys, you won't know about anything happening in the house" and with thing on mind that other 2 rooms will be added (= more people living for the same price (he confirmed this) =====> time to move out.
Anyway, how would you feel if you wake up, go to the kitchen and find your landlords sitting there and chatting with his mate? Maybe some of you would enjoy it, me not => I am leaving, the same with all of my flatmates. Poor those who will be here later after us... |
Of course there will be more rooms, fair play to him it means more money. From day dot it seems you were never happy anyway but the property was probably cheap as chips so you were all over it like a rash! To me reading from the start i agree with some things you raise but in general this sounds like your average tenant getting too involved. To get out of this situation you need to pay more money for a service that will come with a smile, however are you a tenant who would turn up at a property which is of a very high standard and drop the line "I have other properties to view" even though the one you've just looked at it excellent? |
Ok, let's make a small review of my case:
- I signed contract for a room in Peckham for 140pw (if you take this as very cheap place... I don't know but for this price I expected sort of good place).
- At the beginning everything was fine here. But after some time landlord was showing up very often, twice did party here with his friends (even if he doesn't live here).
- I don't wanna know anything about my landlord, only want him/her to let me live in peace. And what's happening here I take as touching my privacy. As well as news that I have to report my landlord about anyone staying here overnight.
Generally I take this partly as my fault, because I should have checked this before moving in but as I have never before experienced this I just didn't. As I said, my fault. I discussed this with my landlord and he said that if I didn't like the situation it'd be better for me to move out. So that's what I'm doing. No stress, no emotions.
Anyway, this is now miles far from what I wanted to ask initially, and I've got answers which I am very grateful for. Now I don't want to bother others with my story... If need be you can drop me a line as private message. |
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honestguy
Joined: 05 May 2006 Posts: 15
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Pennant The Tenant wrote: | | petros wrote: | | Pennant The Tenant wrote: |
Your renting. If he wants to do a loft conversion he can. Its his property not yours. |
Of course he can do it. It's his property. But listening that "guys, you won't know about anything happening in the house" and with thing on mind that other 2 rooms will be added (= more people living for the same price (he confirmed this) =====> time to move out.
Anyway, how would you feel if you wake up, go to the kitchen and find your landlords sitting there and chatting with his mate? Maybe some of you would enjoy it, me not => I am leaving, the same with all of my flatmates. Poor those who will be here later after us... |
Of course there will be more rooms, fair play to him it means more money. From day dot it seems you were never happy anyway but the property was probably cheap as chips so you were all over it like a rash! To me reading from the start i agree with some things you raise but in general this sounds like your average tenant getting too involved. To get out of this situation you need to pay more money for a service that will come with a smile, however are you a tenant who would turn up at a property which is of a very high standard and drop the line "I have other properties to view" even though the one you've just looked at it excellent? |
pennant you are absolutely out of order, your comment about being over the property like a rash is racist aswell, and dont deny it! do you have experience of being an estate agent? I do! and the landlord cannot turn up willy nilly and invade your privacy, lookup the ARLA contracts its states the tenants have a right to abide peacefully free from interference from the landlord. The landlord cannot just announce construction since it is his property, because the rent that is agreed for how the property was in the first place. Therefore any changes to it, and disruption to the tenants should be reflected in a reduction in the rent.
Another thing.... it doesn't matter whether the property is rented at 100 per week or a 1000, the contract is the same and so are the rights of both parties. so stop making dumb comments.
Petros move out of this place asap, good luck with your next place, hope ur next experience will be better. |
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Pennant The Tenant

Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Posts: 425
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| honestguy wrote: | | Pennant The Tenant wrote: | | petros wrote: | | Pennant The Tenant wrote: |
Your renting. If he wants to do a loft conversion he can. Its his property not yours. |
Of course he can do it. It's his property. But listening that "guys, you won't know about anything happening in the house" and with thing on mind that other 2 rooms will be added (= more people living for the same price (he confirmed this) =====> time to move out.
Anyway, how would you feel if you wake up, go to the kitchen and find your landlords sitting there and chatting with his mate? Maybe some of you would enjoy it, me not => I am leaving, the same with all of my flatmates. Poor those who will be here later after us... |
Of course there will be more rooms, fair play to him it means more money. From day dot it seems you were never happy anyway but the property was probably cheap as chips so you were all over it like a rash! To me reading from the start i agree with some things you raise but in general this sounds like your average tenant getting too involved. To get out of this situation you need to pay more money for a service that will come with a smile, however are you a tenant who would turn up at a property which is of a very high standard and drop the line "I have other properties to view" even though the one you've just looked at it excellent? |
pennant you are absolutely out of order, your comment about being over the property like a rash is racist aswell, and dont deny it! do you have experience of being an estate agent? I do! and the landlord cannot turn up willy nilly and invade your privacy, lookup the ARLA contracts its states the tenants have a right to abide peacefully free from interference from the landlord. The landlord cannot just announce construction since it is his property, because the rent that is agreed for how the property was in the first place. Therefore any changes to it, and disruption to the tenants should be reflected in a reduction in the rent.
Another thing.... it doesn't matter whether the property is rented at 100 per week or a 1000, the contract is the same and so are the rights of both parties. so stop making dumb comments.
Petros move out of this place asap, good luck with your next place, hope ur next experience will be better. |
your comment about being over the property like a rash is racist So when i told my mate i was @ China Whites and this blonde chick off the telly was "all over me like a rash" it was racist? (whatcha on about you joker)
Of course it matters how much you pay in rent and what sort of setup it is. No doubt this tenant looked at 1,000 properties before going for the cheapest one, so renting a room which is cheap as chips and the condition not to clever and having the landlord living in the same building is never a good look. You get what you pay for end of. |
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honestguy
Joined: 05 May 2006 Posts: 15
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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you'd never make a lawyer... because you lack the capacity to construct a logical arguement or even address points raised to you.
Are you already an estate agent? if not i heard foxtons have a vacancy going for trainee bullshitter... send em a cv |
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Pennant The Tenant

Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Posts: 425
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| honestguy wrote: | you'd never make a lawyer... because you lack the capacity to construct a logical arguement or even address points raised to you.
Are you already an estate agent? if not i heard foxtons have a vacancy going for trainee bullshitter... send em a cv |
Well you'd know all about that wouldnt you! |
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petros
Joined: 09 Apr 2006 Posts: 10 Location: SE15, London
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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Of course it matters how much you pay in rent and what sort of setup it is. No doubt this tenant looked at 1,000 properties before going for the cheapest one, so renting a room which is cheap as chips and the condition not to clever and having the landlord living in the same building is never a good look. You get what you pay for end of. |
Hi there,
Would it be possible to meet? I'd like to discuss this thing with you as you look as proper expert. All the time you've been talking about your thing, saying your (poor) story, now it's time to get back to reality. So...? |
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petros
Joined: 09 Apr 2006 Posts: 10 Location: SE15, London
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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| honestguy wrote: | pennant you are absolutely out of order, your comment about being over the property like a rash is racist aswell, and dont deny it! do you have experience of being an estate agent? I do! and the landlord cannot turn up willy nilly and invade your privacy, lookup the ARLA contracts its states the tenants have a right to abide peacefully free from interference from the landlord. The landlord cannot just announce construction since it is his property, because the rent that is agreed for how the property was in the first place. Therefore any changes to it, and disruption to the tenants should be reflected in a reduction in the rent.
Another thing.... it doesn't matter whether the property is rented at 100 per week or a 1000, the contract is the same and so are the rights of both parties. so stop making dumb comments.
Petros move out of this place asap, good luck with your next place, hope ur next experience will be better. |
Thanks for this mate, I'm searching for a new place, I'll be out of this asap! |
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Pennant The Tenant

Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Posts: 425
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 11:24 am Post subject: |
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| petros wrote: | | Pennant The Tenant wrote: |
Of course it matters how much you pay in rent and what sort of setup it is. No doubt this tenant looked at 1,000 properties before going for the cheapest one, so renting a room which is cheap as chips and the condition not to clever and having the landlord living in the same building is never a good look. You get what you pay for end of. |
Hi there,
Would it be possible to meet? I'd like to discuss this thing with you as you look as proper expert. All the time you've been talking about your thing, saying your (poor) story, now it's time to get back to reality. So...? |
Dont really understand all that Petros. i do know Nick Freeman in his field doesnt come cheap. |
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petros
Joined: 09 Apr 2006 Posts: 10 Location: SE15, London
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Pennant The Tenant wrote: |
Dont really understand all that Petros. i do know Nick Freeman in his field doesnt come cheap. |
Hey Admins, could you please lock/close this thread. Penant is out of order... he even didn't get a big of sacrasm )) |
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petros
Joined: 09 Apr 2006 Posts: 10 Location: SE15, London
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| petros wrote: | | Pennant The Tenant wrote: |
Dont really understand all that Petros. i do know Nick Freeman in his field doesnt come cheap. |
Hey Admins, could you please lock/close this thread. Penant is out of order... he even didn't get a big of sacrasm )) |
("a bit of", sorry) (why can't I edit my posts here?) |
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FirstCall
Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 2
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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If your tenancy agreement is for a room then it is reasonable that the Landlord should give you reasonable notice before entering your room. Not the flat. As there may be other rooms he is letting he will need access to the flat to show these rooms when they are vacant or about to become vacant.
In this instance your right to privacy is confined to your room only. |
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FirstCall
Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 2
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 3:21 pm Post subject: rent raise |
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As for raising the rent mid term of the contract, this is not possible unless there is a clause in the contract that you are to make proportional contributions towards the gas, electric and council tax bills. In this case it would not be the rent that is increasing, but only the bills element.
CHECK YOUR CONTRACT. |
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