fraud

solsroon · Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 3

there have been lots of fraud on gumtree and i have been a victim of the fraud, i reported to the police about this but i was told they can't do anything about this. i was also told to contact gumtree on this and i'm thinking on suing gumtree for allowing fraud and scams without doing anything to stop this. anybody knows any way i can collect my money from this guy. Also gumtree should change their system on stuff for sale. anybody advertising to sell on gumtree must provide their postal address and make it available to buyers. the seller's name that scammed me is james townsend, and he advertised the ps3 with the desribtion as 'collection or delivery' and the location is chelt, so beware of this guy. another seller who recently advertised on gumtree is Liam buckley, he is also a theif who have scammed so many people.

GUMTREE MUST DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS FRAUD TO PROTECT THE BUYERS. ANYBODY AGREE

montyzuma · Community Moderator Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 6915

How did the fraud work? How did you pay?

CEEJAYO. · Joined: 09 Feb 2008 Posts: 292 Location: Manchester

how did u pay? if you paid by paypal then you can start a dispute and get your money back...

solsroon · Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 3

montyzuma · Community Moderator Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 6915

i cant see you getting any joy thorugh gumtree cos they advocate face to face trading police should be able to do something if you have a bank account youve paid to. contact the bank as well

Realist · Joined: 24 Jan 2008 Posts: 631 Location: London

In the far past I have had a similar "can't help mate" response from the Police on a road traffic matter. The solution I found was to write them a formal letter, preferably quoting the law/act which has been broken. That seemed to prompt them into making investigations, although ultimately it did not help me much.

Good luck

FunkyT · Gumtree Moderator Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 124

reculver · Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 55

solsroon would you have thanked gumtree financially if your purchase of a very cheap PS3 would have sucessful.you gotta feel soory for these scammed MUGS but you gotta LAUGH at them as well .FACE TO FACE TRADING and IF ITS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE IT IS

FOR SALE ONE VERY LIGHT WALLET PRICE IS A GENUINE SCAMISTAN GOLD BAR

katiegreen6800 · Joined: 03 Apr 2008 Posts: 2

Hi yes i have fallen into his trap!! i paid him £95 by postal order and have not heard anything back!

i am not well and havnt been for a while i have 2 young daughters and my partner works damn hard to support us, and all i wanted was to give him a wii for his birthday.

mr buckley said he could help me and would accept £130, i told him i couldnt afford it so he said he buys them for £85 and will accept £95 so i stupidly paid him.

i am in touch with the police they dont seem too bothered at the moment.... they will be tho! im going to chase this tosser down until my last breath even if it means me knocking on his door!

people shouldnt be aloud to mug people off..... yes its my fault for paying out of stupidity and being too trusting but i should be able to trust people. and hes just f***ed me off to the brim now.......so look out liam you've met your match!!!!

montyzuma · Community Moderator Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 6915

i would have thought if you'd paid by postal order and you have an address you would be ok, theres no reason for the police not to take it up????????

pomtufts85 · Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Posts: 1

Im sorry you have had a run in with buckley... back in jan feb he conned me out of £900 with a 5x ps3 scam..I have been going through bedworth police and things are starting to look up..You will not get hold of buckley and you will recieve excuse after excuse if you do..

If you have been caught out by him then contact PC Roy Hampton at bedworth (warwickshire) police, as he is going through the courts and sentencing at the moment..

Please contact them cos you may hjave a chance of getting your money back..Just provide them with all emails and write down and keep all text messages..

Hope this helps people..Its helping me anyways

kays

Andrew Waring · Joined: 02 Jun 2008 Posts: 1

montyzuma · Community Moderator Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 6915

hi gums,
Do you have any proposals for standing up to them and defeating them?

The only thing i can think of is to raise peoples awareness that there are scammers out there and that everyone is not as nice as you and me.

I do feel there could be some higher profile warnings on the advertising boards.

what are your thoughts?

montyzuma · Community Moderator Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 6915

BUT WHAT CAN YOU DO AGAINST PEOPLE who can take out an anonymous email address and ask to be paid by an untraceable method?

one thought has been for gumtree to charge a nominal sum for ads to deter scammers but that goes against the whole gumtree concept

miss.lady.k · Joined: 19 Jun 2008 Posts: 1

i have just joined this web site and found that i know this name. he is a m8 of a m8 who apparently has been sent down to prison for fraud so at least he got done for all the shit hes caused.

katiegreen6800 · Joined: 03 Apr 2008 Posts: 2

Hi guys just though id let you all know (if you dont already know) that Liam Buckley was sent to prison for 10 months.

i faught the case with pc hampton in warickshire police station and i am recieving my compensation.

solsroon · Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 3

that is very good to hear. i hope the guy that scammed got sentenced. the guy even went on holiday with money.

mark1990 · Joined: 04 Feb 2009 Posts: 4

mark1990 · Joined: 04 Feb 2009 Posts: 4

stewart1991 · Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 3

Was he found guilty or not guilty?

mark1990 · Joined: 04 Feb 2009 Posts: 4

The case has been postponed pending a CPS review of the case.

In light of the 40+ new incidents that came to light after he pleaded not guilty. And the police did some more digging....

But its a bit more serious now ... Very Happy

He should have pleaded guily to the 4 charges and 5 specimen charges.. but he thought he knew best Rolling Eyes

I will advise what is happening to the case soon as i know...

iwasscammed · Joined: 05 May 2009 Posts: 1

I could not agree more. This is totally unacceptable! Criminals know that it is very easy for them to pray on gumtree users - police have also informed that they knowingly let this occur!

That leaves users in a helpless state that absolutely should be changed! If the police will not convict criminals who scam gumtree users, and both they as well as the gumtree management knowingly let this occur, then yet another form of illegal activity has taken place.

I intend to sue gumtee for criminal negligence and would be happy to have any of your assist me in taking this terrible company down.

Please respond to this note and we will develop a plan of action. Given the hoards of us victimized by this site, it should not be difficult to take this f'ed up company down.

Thank you.

Marcia1717 · Joined: 11 May 2009 Posts: 13

hi Guys,

I habe become a victim of this 'Nigerian' . I have already reported him to Gumtree / PayPal and Ebay. Do you think i should call police as well?? This is what happened.

2 weeks ago i have received this email from the guy called David Forsyth (d_forsyth@ymail.com:

Hello, I was just browsing through gumtree to see if i can get a very good and nice item for a very good friend and a colleague of mine who has just been posted abroad on a training course on Environmental pollution while i am being posted to Asia on a training course on Population so we are into exchange of gifts with each other, and i came across your lovely item.

I want to know if the item is in its top condition,I will like you to help me send the item down to my friend in Abroad on my behalf as i am due to leave for Asia soon so won't be able to receive the item here in the state..I will be offering you 50 pounds for the postage via Royal Mail International Signed For,with p&p, so i will quickly want you to get back to me with the total cost including your pay pal e-mail so i can make payment.

Hope to read from you soon...
God bless.

We have agreed that I will post the good to the address in Nigeria David ensured me then once he gets the postal confirmation he will proceed with the payment (£143 in total) I have sent him the postage confirmation along with the paypal address. I received to pending payments (random £360 amount of money, not £143 which was requested by me) . I couldn't do anything with the money (transfer, cash etc) as they didnt exist. I have sent about 10 emails to David Forsyth and requested for the payment...nothing never happened.

e) in the meantime, today i have received another question about the other item which I am selling via this website from the guy called Paul Jones <pjones86@ymail.com the theme of his email was very similar to the initial email from David.

Hi, Thanks for your quick response,i will be offering you 50 pounds for the postage cost via Register Mail International Signed For, to my Friend who has just been posted to Africa (Nigeria) on a training course as a birthday gift as am on leave to Asia soon and won't be able to receive the item here in UK.. do get back to me with the total cost and your pay pal e-mail so i can make payment straight away

Thanks you for your help and support.

It looks like that's the same person. !!!!

What is your advice on it? I have not lost my items, not received the payment for them. I thought I will let you know about this situation cause this guys is using different emails / paypal addresses and he probably doesn't exist.

Guys, where else we can report this guy? Can anyone advise?

Thanks

mark1990 · Joined: 04 Feb 2009 Posts: 4

Contact Paypal by phone.... and explain Exactly !!! whats going on before you take any more action.

They will be the best for advice....in these scams....

Marcia1717 · Joined: 11 May 2009 Posts: 13

will do. also believe me or not - my friend has manages to track him down and we have got his ip and his Nigerian address!!!!! My friend works fot the IT dept of one of the biggest company in London and it looks like we have found the guy. What we should do now? Police?