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Opinionated

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Orwellian_Logic

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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| I mentioned this man in your pandering to Islam post on Dispatches, Undercover mosques. This man is Abu Izadeen. he has been arrested on terrorist charges. |
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Trevor Cocksmith

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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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| He should be sliced up and fed to pigs |
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Opinionated

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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Orwellian_Logic wrote: | | I mentioned this man in your pandering to Islam post on Dispatches, Undercover mosques. This man is Abu Izadeen. he has been arrested on terrorist charges. |
I am not surprised
The trouble is how many people did he sway around to his way of thinking |
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Trevor Cocksmith

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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Opinionated wrote: | | Orwellian_Logic wrote: | | I mentioned this man in your pandering to Islam post on Dispatches, Undercover mosques. This man is Abu Izadeen. he has been arrested on terrorist charges. |
I am not surprised
The trouble is how many people did he sway around to his way of thinking |
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Orwellian_Logic

Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 5471 Location: Londonistan
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Trevor Cocksmith wrote: | | Opinionated wrote: | | Orwellian_Logic wrote: | | I mentioned this man in your pandering to Islam post on Dispatches, Undercover mosques. This man is Abu Izadeen. he has been arrested on terrorist charges. |
I am not surprised
The trouble is how many people did he sway around to his way of thinking |
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401. You've forgotten KK and Hmmm_maybe  |
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Orwellian_Logic

Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 5471 Location: Londonistan
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Opinionated wrote: | | Orwellian_Logic wrote: | | I mentioned this man in your pandering to Islam post on Dispatches, Undercover mosques. This man is Abu Izadeen. he has been arrested on terrorist charges. |
I am not surprised
The trouble is how many people did he sway around to his way of thinking |
Did you ever see that programme? If you know anything about torrents, then you'll get a copy on there. Radical Imams are all over the UK preaching there hate. This programme only highlighted a minority of what's going on. There's no doubt loads of them and I bet they're also on benefits too, as much as they can get. So much about 'the kufars' in the West eh? When the 'kufar' are keeping these shitheads alive, eating western food, wearing western clothes and using and driving on western technology. |
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Boff1

Joined: 08 May 2008 Posts: 308
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Orwellian_Logic wrote: | | Trevor Cocksmith wrote: | | Opinionated wrote: | | Orwellian_Logic wrote: | | I mentioned this man in your pandering to Islam post on Dispatches, Undercover mosques. This man is Abu Izadeen. he has been arrested on terrorist charges. |
I am not surprised
The trouble is how many people did he sway around to his way of thinking |
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401. You've forgotten KK and Hmmm_maybe  |
LOL! That's the guy that harangued John Reid. He's inside now. Let's hope he meets some new friends in the shower block.
BTW has anyone heard about Hassan Butt's arrest? He was nicked buying a ticket to Lahore, Pakistan 45 minutes before the flight was due to take off!
I reckon he was working for MI6 but had enough and had assurances he would be safe in Pakistan.
He's safer in prison though! |
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Orwellian_Logic

Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 5471 Location: Londonistan
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Boff1 wrote: | | Orwellian_Logic wrote: | | Trevor Cocksmith wrote: | | Opinionated wrote: | | Orwellian_Logic wrote: | | I mentioned this man in your pandering to Islam post on Dispatches, Undercover mosques. This man is Abu Izadeen. he has been arrested on terrorist charges. |
I am not surprised
The trouble is how many people did he sway around to his way of thinking |
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401. You've forgotten KK and Hmmm_maybe  |
LOL! That's the guy that harangued John Reid. He's inside now. Let's hope he meets some new friends in the shower block.
BTW has anyone heard about Hassan Butt's arrest? He was nicked buying a ticket to Lahore, Pakistan 45 minutes before the flight was due to take off!
I reckon he was working for MI6 but had enough and had assurances he would be safe in Pakistan.
He's safer in prison though! |
Not heard yet Boff. However you reckon he's safer in prison? I doubt it, safer to whom? With today's prison's like Holiday camps he'll be doing very much inside what he did outside to get him banged up. Prison's are becoming islamist recruiting bases, as well as university campuses, schools and mosques. |
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Ceejayo

Joined: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 15296 Location: Manchester
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Orwellian_Logic wrote: | | Boff1 wrote: | | Orwellian_Logic wrote: | | Trevor Cocksmith wrote: | | Opinionated wrote: | | Orwellian_Logic wrote: | | I mentioned this man in your pandering to Islam post on Dispatches, Undercover mosques. This man is Abu Izadeen. he has been arrested on terrorist charges. |
I am not surprised
The trouble is how many people did he sway around to his way of thinking |
389 |
401. You've forgotten KK and Hmmm_maybe  |
LOL! That's the guy that harangued John Reid. He's inside now. Let's hope he meets some new friends in the shower block.
BTW has anyone heard about Hassan Butt's arrest? He was nicked buying a ticket to Lahore, Pakistan 45 minutes before the flight was due to take off!
I reckon he was working for MI6 but had enough and had assurances he would be safe in Pakistan.
He's safer in prison though! |
Not heard yet Boff. However you reckon he's safer in prison? I doubt it, safer to whom? With today's prison's like Holiday camps he'll be doing very much inside what he did outside to get him banged up. Prison's are becoming islamist recruiting bases, as well as university campuses, schools and mosques. |
I cannot understand this really. From my own prison experience, I've never noticed the prison staff to actually give a real shit about a con's "rights". So, if these prisoners are being allowed to gain sufficient numbers in a jail to gain any sort of protection from the general population, it is because the prison has allowed it to happen. Either stick them all in a purpose built jail, and monitor every fucker who goes to see them, or spread them about the country and let them fend for themselves. |
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Boff1

Joined: 08 May 2008 Posts: 308
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Ceejayo wrote: | | Orwellian_Logic wrote: | | Boff1 wrote: | | Orwellian_Logic wrote: | | Trevor Cocksmith wrote: | | Opinionated wrote: | | Orwellian_Logic wrote: | | I mentioned this man in your pandering to Islam post on Dispatches, Undercover mosques. This man is Abu Izadeen. he has been arrested on terrorist charges. |
I am not surprised
The trouble is how many people did he sway around to his way of thinking |
389 |
401. You've forgotten KK and Hmmm_maybe  |
LOL! That's the guy that harangued John Reid. He's inside now. Let's hope he meets some new friends in the shower block.
BTW has anyone heard about Hassan Butt's arrest? He was nicked buying a ticket to Lahore, Pakistan 45 minutes before the flight was due to take off!
I reckon he was working for MI6 but had enough and had assurances he would be safe in Pakistan.
He's safer in prison though! |
Not heard yet Boff. However you reckon he's safer in prison? I doubt it, safer to whom? With today's prison's like Holiday camps he'll be doing very much inside what he did outside to get him banged up. Prison's are becoming islamist recruiting bases, as well as university campuses, schools and mosques. |
I cannot understand this really. From my own prison experience, I've never noticed the prison staff to actually give a real shit about a con's "rights". So, if these prisoners are being allowed to gain sufficient numbers in a jail to gain any sort of protection from the general population, it is because the prison has allowed it to happen. Either stick them all in a purpose built jail, and monitor every fucker who goes to see them, or spread them about the country and let them fend for themselves. |
Terrorists get a wide berth in prison from the screws. This dates way back to IRA and UDF days, after all would you fuck with a bomber that tells you he knows where you live and where your kids go to school?
OL: Here's a video in 2 parts about Hassan Butt. He's an ex-Jihadi that has said a lot of good stuff against extremism being thoroughly connectyed to the inherent violent theology of Islam:
Part 1:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=odr2pJeSMqU
Part2:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CY1haUHjUdU&feature=related |
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Orwellian_Logic

Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 5471 Location: Londonistan
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Boff1 wrote: | | Ceejayo wrote: | | Orwellian_Logic wrote: | | Boff1 wrote: | | Orwellian_Logic wrote: | | Trevor Cocksmith wrote: | | Opinionated wrote: | | Orwellian_Logic wrote: | | I mentioned this man in your pandering to Islam post on Dispatches, Undercover mosques. This man is Abu Izadeen. he has been arrested on terrorist charges. |
I am not surprised
The trouble is how many people did he sway around to his way of thinking |
389 |
401. You've forgotten KK and Hmmm_maybe  |
LOL! That's the guy that harangued John Reid. He's inside now. Let's hope he meets some new friends in the shower block.
BTW has anyone heard about Hassan Butt's arrest? He was nicked buying a ticket to Lahore, Pakistan 45 minutes before the flight was due to take off!
I reckon he was working for MI6 but had enough and had assurances he would be safe in Pakistan.
He's safer in prison though! |
Not heard yet Boff. However you reckon he's safer in prison? I doubt it, safer to whom? With today's prison's like Holiday camps he'll be doing very much inside what he did outside to get him banged up. Prison's are becoming islamist recruiting bases, as well as university campuses, schools and mosques. |
I cannot understand this really. From my own prison experience, I've never noticed the prison staff to actually give a real shit about a con's "rights". So, if these prisoners are being allowed to gain sufficient numbers in a jail to gain any sort of protection from the general population, it is because the prison has allowed it to happen. Either stick them all in a purpose built jail, and monitor every fucker who goes to see them, or spread them about the country and let them fend for themselves. |
Terrorists get a wide berth in prison from the screws. This dates way back to IRA and UDF days, after all would you fuck with a bomber that tells you he knows where you live and where your kids go to school?
OL: Here's a video in 2 parts about Hassan Butt. He's an ex-Jihadi that has said a lot of good stuff against extremism being thoroughly connectyed to the inherent violent theology of Islam:
Part 1:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=odr2pJeSMqU
Part2:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CY1haUHjUdU&feature=related |
Thanks Boff, I'll have a watch later as I have to go out but...there's quite a few X Islamists who are trying to something about the Islamists. Check through my posts for the one on the Quillem Foundation. |
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Ceejayo

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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Terrorists get a wide berth in prison from the screws. This dates way back to IRA and UDF days, after all would you fuck with a bomber that tells you he knows where you live and where your kids go to school?
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Yes, but that works both ways, doesn't it? Who's really likely to have the biggest 'gang', or the best 'contacts'? The crazy extremist, or a screw? They would have to be serious bad-asses to get that sort of 'respect', I'd have thought? But if not, all the more reason to send them to the furthest, most inhospitable nicks on the British Isles. |
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Opinionated

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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Ceejayo wrote: | | Boff1 wrote: |
Terrorists get a wide berth in prison from the screws. This dates way back to IRA and UDF days, after all would you fuck with a bomber that tells you he knows where you live and where your kids go to school?
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Yes, but that works both ways, doesn't it? Who's really likely to have the biggest 'gang', or the best 'contacts'? The crazy extremist, or a screw? They would have to be serious bad-asses to get that sort of 'respect', I'd have thought? But if not, all the more reason to send them to the furthest, most inhospitable nicks on the British Isles. |
Send the fuckers to the glass house |
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Vibrance

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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| whats the glass house? |
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the beak

Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 3398 Location: varys between heaven,earth and hell
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Vibrance wrote: | | whats the glass house? | army prison |
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Vibrance

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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| the beak wrote: | | Vibrance wrote: | | whats the glass house? | army prison |
why named so |
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the beak

Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 3398 Location: varys between heaven,earth and hell
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Vibrance"] | the beak wrote: | | Vibrance wrote: | | whats the glass house? | army prison |
why named so[/quote
The Glasshouse was the popular term for a military prison in the British Army. The first military prisons were established in 1844. The term Glasshouse originated at the military prison at Aldershot, which had a glazed roof. Over time, the sobriquet came to be applied to all British Army prisons. This prison, called the Detention Barracks, had begun as several barracks in 1856, before being replaced by a single, large building, modelled on civilian prisons, in 1870. This building was destroyed by fire in a riot of 1946. Glasshouses gained a reputation for brutality, as depicted in Allan Campbell McLean's novel, The Glass House, and the Sean Connery film, The Hill. Today, the British Army has only one remaining prison, the Military Corrective Training Centre at Colchester. It has a special unit for convicts who are being transferred to HM Prison Service to serve their sentences.
The Glasshouse at Colchester has been described in the ITV Anglia TV-documentary series, |
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Vibrance

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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| thanks beak.....will try to retain that |
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ticcan

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:47 am Post subject: |
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| Orwellian_Logic wrote: | | I mentioned this man in your pandering to Islam post on Dispatches, Undercover mosques. This man is Abu Izadeen. he has been arrested on terrorist charges. |
Police arrest muslim!!! I though the Police were all PC, arrest no muslims and just pander to them. I am confused now  |
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Arthur Twosheds

Joined: 11 Apr 2008 Posts: 629 Location: Straddling Dimensions, nr Harrogate.
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:49 am Post subject: |
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| ticcan wrote: | | Orwellian_Logic wrote: | | I mentioned this man in your pandering to Islam post on Dispatches, Undercover mosques. This man is Abu Izadeen. he has been arrested on terrorist charges. |
Police arrest muslim!!! I though the Police were all PC, arrest no muslims and just pander to them. I am confused now  |
He was quite a cocky looking Muslim though...  |
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Nohoman

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm. I'm generally against the death sentence as it isn't much of a punishment. Simply it's over too quickly.
Generally these sort of scum need to be put into a solitary small cell (5 x 5ft?) and spend the rest of their days there, with nothing to eat but partially cooked pork. This is after they see their families and friends gutted in front of them.
The only time they'll be allowed out of their cells is for their daily torture session, which, although brutal, will not be life-threatening. If anything, they'll get the best medical care to ensure they have a long life of suffering. As they approach the end if their natural lives, then the torture can be stepped up a bit - maybe remove various appendages, eyes etc.
Finally, when their worthless lives come to an end, they'll know that their scummy remains will be buried in pig skins, in a specilly assembled grave. |
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Randy Oops

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| Nohoman wrote: | Hmmm. I'm generally against the death sentence as it isn't much of a punishment. Simply it's over too quickly.
Generally these sort of scum need to be put into a solitary small cell (5 x 5ft?) and spend the rest of their days there, with nothing to eat but partially cooked pork. This is after they see their families and friends gutted in front of them.
The only time they'll be allowed out of their cells is for their daily torture session, which, although brutal, will not be life-threatening. If anything, they'll get the best medical care to ensure they have a long life of suffering. As they approach the end if their natural lives, then the torture can be stepped up a bit - maybe remove various appendages, eyes etc.
Finally, when their worthless lives come to an end, they'll know that their scummy remains will be buried in pig skins, in a specilly assembled grave. |
I'm sure you've got lots more interesting ideas...let's fill them out a bit and try and make a manifesto. |
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goodnessgraciousme
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They should be locked in a cell, fed on nothing but pork and be made to listen to readings from the christian bible 24/7, their eyelids should be removed and regular lemon juice drops applied or whatever causes most pain, the nerve of these w**nkers beggars belief coming here preaching hate and condemning the very things that they take advantage of, no punishment is hard enough or painful enough for them or their followers, put em all on a remote island and give them the biggest bomb they ever did see, f ckers  |
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Opinionated

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| goodnessgraciousme wrote: | They should be locked in a cell, fed on nothing but pork and be made to listen to readings from the christian bible 24/7, their eyelids should be removed and regular lemon juice drops applied or whatever causes most pain, the nerve of these w**nkers beggars belief coming here preaching hate and condemning the very things that they take advantage of, no punishment is hard enough or painful enough for them or their followers, put em all on a remote island and give them the biggest bomb they ever did see, f ckers  |
I see you will be gentle with them  |
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