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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:55 pm    Post subject: debunking the grandiose claims to fame of insecure scots Reply with quote

its been great fun an deserves its own thread

the claims


The average Englishman, in his home he calls his castle, puts on his national costume - A shabby Raincoat patented by Charles MacIntosh of Glasgow, Scotland.

He drives a car fitted with tyres invented by John Boyd Dunlop of Dreghorn, Scotland.

At the office he recieves his mail with adhearive stamps which, although they bear the queen of England's head, were invented by John Chambers of Dundee, Scotland.

During the day he uses the telephone, Invented by Alexander Graham Bell of Edinburgh, Scotland.

At home in the evening he watches his daughter ride her bicycle, invented by Kilpatrick MacMillan, A Blacksmith from Dumfries, Scotland.

He watches the news on television which was invented by John Logie Baird of Helensburough, Scotland and hears an item about the U.S. Navy founded by John Paul Jones of Kirkbean, Scotland.

He has now been reminded too much of Scotland and in desperation picks up the Bible, only to find that the first man mentioned in the good book is a Scot - King James VI - who authourised it's translation.

No where can an Englishman turn to escape the ingenuity of the Scots, he could take to drink but the Scots make the finest in the world, he could take a rifle and end it all but the breech-loading rifle was invented by Captain Patrick Ferguson of Pitfours, Scotland.

If he escaped death, he could find himself on an operating table, being injected with Penicillin, discovered by Alexander Flemming of Darvel, Scotland, and given an aneasthetic, discovered by Sir James Young Simpson of Bathgate, Scotland.

Out of the aneasthetic he would find no comfort in learning that he was as safe as the Bank Of England which was founded by William Patterson of Dumfries, Scotland.

Perhaps his only hope would be to get a transfusion of good SCOTTISH blood.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the tyre

RW Thomson invented and patented the Pneumatic Tyre in 1845. His first design used a number of thin inflated tubes inside a leather cover (illustrated). This design actually had its advantages over later designs. It would take more than one puncture to deflate the whole tyre, and varying the pressures could alter the ride conditions.

It was not until the late nineteenth century, 1888, that John Boyd Dunlop invented the Rubber Pneumatic Tyre. Despite these technological breakthroughs the solid rubber tyre continued to be the dominant tyre and it was not until 1889 that the pneumatic tyre caught on.

Dunlop first advertised his tyres in December 1888 in The Irish Cyclist, and in May of the following year the Tyre had its first breakthrough. A Belfast Cycle Race was won on pneumatic rubber tyres, and by now the public were starting to take note.

Unfortunately the original tyre had its drawbacks. The inner tube was difficult to get at because the tyre was stuck to the wheel. In 1890 CK Welsh patented the design of a wheel rim and outer cover with inextensible lip. By now we had the basics for today’s tyre. Over the years the tyre has developed into today’s high technology offerings. Two of the most important technical developments include Michelin’s creation of the radial tyre with its vastly superior grip in 1948, and when Dunlop did away with the inner tube on car tyres in 1972.

Time has given the motor industry tyres capable of many different applications. This ranges from High Speed Racing such as Formula One to Heavy Plant Usage on vehicles as large as a house. All tyres deliver a comfortable ride, relative puncture resistance, wear and performance. The importance of a tyre must not be taken for granted. After all a tyre is your vehicles only point of contact with the road.



so - dunlop didnt invent the tyre but modified it - along with teh likes of michelin and pirelli

interestingly dunlop undertook all his developments in england and was funded by english capital
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the postage stamp

Rowland Hill invented the adhesive postage stamp.

Before the use of adhesive paper stamps, letters were hand stamped or postmarked with ink. Postmarks were the invention of Henry Bishop and were at first called 'Bishop mark' after the inventor. Bishop marks were first used in 1661 at the London General Post Office. They marked the day and month the letter was mailed.
The First Modern Postage Stamp - Penny Black

The first issued postage stamp began with Great Britain's Penny Post. On May 6, 1840, the British Penny Black stamp was released. The Penny Black was engraved the profile of Queen Victoria's head, who remained on all British stamps for the next sixty years. Rowland Hill created the first stamp.


A schoolmaster from England, Rowland Hill invented the adhesive postage stamp in 1837, an act for which he was knighted.[/b]

Through his efforts the first stamp in the world was issued in England in 1840. Roland Hill also created the first uniform postage rates that were based on weight rather than size. Hill's stamps made the prepayment of mail postage possible and practical.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the telephone


Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone in 1876. The first words he spoke on his telephone were, "Watson, come here. I need you." Watson was his assistant's name.

That happened in 1875-76.

However Antonio Meucci had a working telephone since 1848 in Havana and a perfected model by 1871. On that year Meucci filed for and obtained a patent(caveat #3335) for the telephone. To say that Bell invented the telephone is erroneous. Meucci invented it. The unfortunate thing about Meucci is that he did not renew the caveat 3335 for lack of money. Had he renwed it, Bell would not have been granted a patent. Bell knowing the facts applied and was granted a patent. Bell is not the inventor. He simply commercialized what had been invented by Meucci and made a fortune whereas Meucci died poor and destitute..
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the bicycle


Some history books will state that Pierre and Ernest Michaux, the French father and son team of carriage-makers, invented the first bicycle during the 1860s. Historians now disagree and there is evidence that the bicycle is older than that. However, historians do agree that Ernest Michaux did invent the modern bicycle pedal and cranks in 1861.

Baron Karl Drais von Sauerbronn - Early Bicycles
The German Baron Karl Drais von Sauerbronn invented the "Laufmaschine" or "Running Machine", a type of pre-bicycle. The steerable Laufmaschine was made entirely of wood and had no pedals; a rider would push his/her feet against the ground to make the machine go forward. Sauerbronn's bicycle was first exhibited in Paris on April 6, 1818. The celerifere was another similar early bicycle precursor invented in 1790 by Frenchmen, Comte Mede de Sivrac, however, it had no steering.

Penny Farthing
The Penny Farthing is also referred to as the 'High' or 'Ordinary' bicycle, and the first one was invented in 1871 by British engineer, James Starley. The Penny Farthing came after the development of the 'Hobbyhorse', and the French 'Velocipede' or 'Boneshaker', all versions of early bikes. However, the Penny Farthing was the first really efficient bicycle, consisting of a small rear wheel and large front wheel pivoting on a simple tubular frame with tires of rubber.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the television



Who is the inventor of television? Probably no other invention in history has been so hotly disputed as the prestigious claim to the invention of 'Tele-vision or 'long-distance sight' by wireless.”

Since Marconi’s invention of wireless telegraphy in 1897, the imagination of many inventors have been sparked with the notion of sending images as well as sound, wirelessly. The first documented notion of sending components of pictures over a series of multiple circuits is credited to George Carey. Another inventor, W. E. Sawyer, suggested the possibility of sending an image over a single wire by rapidly scanning parts of the picture in succession.

On December 2, 1922, in Sorbonne, France, Edwin Belin, an Englishman, who held the patent for the transmission of photographs by wire as well as fiber optics and radar, demonstrated a mechanical scanning device that was an early precursor to modern television.


The credit as to who was the inventor of modern television really comes down to two different people in two different places both working on the same problem at about the same time: Vladimir Kosma Zworykin, a Russian-born American inventor working for Westinghouse, and Philo Taylor Farnsworth, a privately backed farm boy from the state of Utah.

“Zworykin had a patent, but Farnsworth had a picture…”

Zworykin is usually credited as being the father of modern television. This was because the patent for the heart of the TV, the electron scanning tube, was first applied for by Zworykin in 1923, under the name of an iconoscope.

Farnsworth was the first of the two inventors to successfully demonstrate the transmission of television signals, which he did on September 7, 1927,

Zworykin was not able to duplicate Farnsworth’s achievements until 1934 and his patent for a scanning tube was not issued until 1938. The truth of the matter is this, that while Zworykin applied for the patent for his iconoscope in 1923, the invention was not functional until some years later and all earlier efforts were of such poor quality that Westinghouse officials ordered him to work on something “more useful.”

Another player of the times was John Logie Baird, a Scottish engineer and entrepreneur who 'achieved his first transmissions of simple face shapes in 1924 using mechanical television. On March 25, 1925, Baird held his first public demonstration of 'television' at the London department store Selfridges on Oxford Street in London. In this demonstration, he had not yet obtained adequate half-tones in the moving pictures, and only silhouettes were visible.' - MZTV

In the late thirties, when RCA and Zworykin, who was now working for RCA, tried to claim rights to the essence of television, it became evident that Farnsworth held the priority patent in the technology. The president of RCA sought to control television the same way that they controlled radio and vowed that, “RCA earns royalties, it does not pay them,” and a 50 million dollar legal battle subsequently ensued.

With patent priority status ruled in favor of Farnsworth, RCA for the first time in its history, began paying royalties for television in 1939.

Philo Farnsworth was recently named one of TIME Magazine's 100 Greatest Scientists and Thinkers of the 20th Century.





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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1st man mentioned in the bible = king james

duh - what a stupid claim to fame

call me stupid but wasnt adam the 1st man in the fantasy called the bible
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the rifle



Since the introduction of the flintlock musket in the 17th century, military small arms have gone through a series of significant changes.
Muskets

Puckle Gun - 1718
In 1718, James Puckle of London, England, demonstrated his new invention, the "Puckle Gun," a tripod-mounted, single-barreled flintlock gun fitted with a multishot revolving cylinder. This weapon fired nine shots per minute at a time when the standard soldier's musket could be loaded and fired but three times per minute. Puckle demonstrated two versions of the basic design. One weapon, intended for use against Christian enemies, fired conventional round bullets, while the second variant, designed to be used against the Muslim Turks, fired square bullets, which were believed to cause more severe and painful wounds than spherical projectiles.
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The "Puckle Gun" failed to attract investors and never achieved mass production or sales to the British armed forces. One newspaper of the period observed following the business venture's failure that "those are only wounded who hold shares therein."
According to the Patent Office of the United Kingdom, "In the reign of Queen Anne, the law officers of the Crown established as a condition of patent that the inventor must in writing describe the invention and the manner in which it works." James Puckle's 1718 patent for a gun was one of the first to provide a description.

Revolvers

History of the Colt Revolver
Samuel Colt invented the first revolver - named after its revolving cylinder. He was issued a U.S. patent in 1836 for the Colt firearm equipped with a revolving cylinder containing five or six bullets with an innovative cocking device. See also - Samuel Colt and the Revolver
Rifles

The breech-loading rifle was invented by Captain Patrick Ferguson of Pitfours, Scotland.
John Moses Browning - Winchester Rifle
John Moses Browning was the prolific gun designer who invented the Winchester rifle (30/30), the pump shotgun, and the Colt 45 automatic. He is best known for his automatic pistols and was the first one to invent the slide, which encloses the barrel of a pistol and the firing mechanism.
John Moses Browning
Modern Assault Rifles - M16 History
The history of the modern assault rifle begins with the German Sturmgewehr used during WW2, the first rifle that could fire a medium size bullet at high rates of fire. In response the U.S. military began developing their own assault rifle, the result was the M16 assault rifle, first issued to American Soldiers in Vietnam in 1968 and designed by Eugene Stoner, a Marine Corps Veteran.
John Garand - M1 Semiautomatic Rifle
Canadian, John Garand invented the M1 semiautomatic rifle in 1934.
The Johnson Rifle
The Johnson Model 1941 Rifle one of the most innovative rifles of its time period. The Johson rifle was invented by Melvin M. Johnson Jr.
Samuel Gardiner
Samuel Gardiner, Jr. received a U.S. Patent in 1863 on a "high explosive rifle bullet" in .54, .58, and .69 calibers. Fused to explode 1 1/4 seconds after firing, it ensured that any soldier hit by the projectile with a range of 400 yards faced the danger of the bullet exploding within the impact wound. The U.S. Government purchased 110,000 rounds of such ammunition for issue during the Civil War. Criticizing the use of similar ammunition by the Confederates, General Ulysses S. Grant complained that "their use is barbarous because they produce increased suffering without any increased advantage to using them."
Rifle Scopes
A rifle scope is a refractor telescope used on a rifle. In 1880, August Fiedler (Stronsdorf), forestry commissioner of Prince Reuss, managed to build the first telescopic sight that really did work.
Machine Guns

Gatling Gun - 1861
Doctor Richard Gatling patented his design of the "Gatling Gun", a six-barreled weapon capable of firing a (then) phenomenal 200 rounds per minute.
Maxim Machine Gun - 1885
In 1881, a friend of Hiram Maxim, the American inventor, told him: "If you wanted to make a lot of money, invent something that will enable these Europeans to cut each other's throats with. Hiram Maxim was born in Sangersville, Maine in 1840 and was the inventor of the Maxim Machine Gun and the Maxim Silencer.
Thompson Submachine Gun - Tommy Gun
The Thompson submachine gun or Tommy gun was invented by General John T. Thompson, it was the first hand held machine gun. Thompson was driven with the thought of creating a hand held machinegun that would help end the First World War, However, "the first shipment of prototype guns destined for Europe arrived at the docks in New York city on November 11, 1918, the day the War ended."
Thompson Submachine Gun
Brief History of Machine Guns
Weapons of War: Machine Guns
Silencers

Hiram Maxim (born 1853) invented the Maxim Silencer or Suppressor: that attached to the front of the barrel of a pistol and allowed the firearm to be fired without a loud bang. Invented in 1909, the Maxim Suppressor was the first commercially successful silencer.



so as we can see fergussons invention was but a moderate modification in the journey of modern guns
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

penicillin - great invention and iundeed credit at last goes to a scot

a scot who only stumbled upon his discovery through time spent in the british army and through english funding and inventing it in england - but hey - lets not take all the glory away






Penicillin was invented in 1928 by Alexander Fleming, a British scientist.
* Penicillin was actually discovered by accident. Fleming was experimenting with bacteria in petri dishes, when he noticed mold growing in one of the petri dishes. The bacteria that was around the mold had been killed. It was this discovery that led Fleming to discover that the mold (penicillin) was a way to kill some types of bacteria.

* It took nearly 10 years to develop a method to extract the bacteria killing substance from the mold. This procedure was developed by Ernst Chain and Howard Florey.

* Penicillin kills bacteria by preventing the formation of cell walls that the bacteria need to survive.

* The 1st man was treated with penicillin in 1941. He was treated for blood poisoning.

* In the mid-1940's penicillin began to become widely available for use as medicine.

* It now plays a major role in treating illnesses such as pneumonia, rheumatic fever and scarlet fever.

* The discovery of penicillin was the building block for discovering many other antibiotics used today


interestingly chain was german and florey australian - both came together at oxford and developed modern penicillin\
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bank of england -

indeed created by patterson

strange though that such a fervent scot would create a bank of ENGLAND

even stranger that scot nationalists seek to use this as a claim to greatness
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this not considered spamming ?

You have already plastered this in the Edinburgh Forum .
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So why do they lie and try to pass off these inventions as their own?
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thally.

You are so easy, I don't even bother anymore.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thally wrote:
Is this not considered spamming ?

You have already plastered this in the Edinburgh Forum .


Don't be cruel. EM's med's are just kicking in and this is the best fun he's had all week.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ammie wrote:
So why do they lie and try to pass off these inventions as their own?



deep rooted insecurity ammie


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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thally wrote:
Is this not considered spamming ?

You have already plastered this in the Edinburgh Forum .



is this a bit like you repeating your endless drivel post after post

why dont you read the opening post very carefully thally
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ceejayo wrote:
Thally wrote:
Is this not considered spamming ?

You have already plastered this in the Edinburgh Forum .


Don't be cruel. EM's med's are just kicking in and this is the best fun he's had all week.


and you are correct - it has been fun showing what twats these people are




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Thally wrote:
Is this not considered spamming ?

You have already plastered this in the Edinburgh Forum .



is this a bit like you repeating your endless drivel post after post

why dont you read the opening post very carefully thally





Why dont you open yer arse flaps and shove yer head up it ?








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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats it thally - resort to petty insults when you cant disprove the point of this thread

let me remind you - it is about the grandiose and false claims to fam eof our wonderful scottish brethren

hahahahahahahahahahahha

fucking hilarious

twats
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thats it thally - resort to petty insults when you cant disprove the point of this thread

let me remind you - it is about the grandiose and false claims to fam eof our wonderful scottish brethren

hahahahahahahahahahahha

fucking hilarious

twats





That was no insult ..................... THAT was the best bit of advice anyone could ever give you Smile
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thally wrote:
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thats it thally - resort to petty insults when you cant disprove the point of this thread

let me remind you - it is about the grandiose and false claims to fam eof our wonderful scottish brethren

hahahahahahahahahahahha

fucking hilarious

twats





That was no insult ..................... THAT was the best bit of advice anyone could ever give you Smile




youre still struggling to disprove my debunking of the stoooopid false claims then



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Thally wrote:
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thats it thally - resort to petty insults when you cant disprove the point of this thread

let me remind you - it is about the grandiose and false claims to fam eof our wonderful scottish brethren

hahahahahahahahahahahha

fucking hilarious

twats





That was no insult ..................... THAT was the best bit of advice anyone could ever give you Smile




youre still struggling to disprove my debunking of the stoooopid false claims then



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Struggling ! ! !


I think not .............. I wasnt even attempting to Smile


You have some very funny ideas way above your station Boy Smile








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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scots - pah!
Bloody rubbish nation...... Exclamation
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But I thought EM worshipped OL?

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

at least its educational,whereas thally just demonstrates what an ignorant old bag she is.
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