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John Lesley - Smoke n Fire or easy target?
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Albion.
 
 


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who can say if he is or is not a rapist? Is that not why we have a system of law and justice to find this out? Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
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prufrock
 
 


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am prepared to wait for the courts verdict, I dont know if he is guilty or not. However the first law of criminality is that a criminal is criminal in all aspects of his life. Leslie does not come in to this category. In the recent case in Austria, you will remember that the father stole electricity from the national grid, to heat the basement where he kept his daughter.
The people this girl will have problems convincing are not "numbskull males", but her fellow females. Woman are vicious to other women, and understand whether a girls story is plausible. Men on the other hand, including myself are credulous fools when it comes to spotting if a girl is lying.
Most of the attacks on the girl in the national press are from female jouralists.
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Thally
 
 


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

prufrock wrote:
I am prepared to wait for the courts verdict, I dont know if he is guilty or not. However the first law of criminality is that a criminal is criminal in all aspects of his life. Leslie does not come in to this category. In the recent case in Austria, you will remember that the father stole electricity from the national grid, to heat the basement where he kept his daughter.
The people this girl will have problems convincing are not "numbskull males", but her fellow females. Woman are vicious to other women, and understand whether a girls story is plausible. Men on the other hand, including myself are credulous fools when it comes to spotting if a girl is lying.
Most of the attacks on the girl in the national press are from female jouralists.




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However the first law of criminality is that a criminal is criminal in all aspects of his life.


What a load of utter shite ! ! !


In fact .............. Neary all of that post is utter shite .
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prufrock
 
 


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was merely quoting David Cantor, without any contest Britains most eminent criminologist.
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fiddlestix
 
 


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thally wrote:
prufrock wrote:
I am prepared to wait for the courts verdict, I dont know if he is guilty or not. However the first law of criminality is that a criminal is criminal in all aspects of his life. Leslie does not come in to this category. In the recent case in Austria, you will remember that the father stole electricity from the national grid, to heat the basement where he kept his daughter.
The people this girl will have problems convincing are not "numbskull males", but her fellow females. Woman are vicious to other women, and understand whether a girls story is plausible. Men on the other hand, including myself are credulous fools when it comes to spotting if a girl is lying.
Most of the attacks on the girl in the national press are from female jouralists.




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However the first law of criminality is that a criminal is criminal in all aspects of his life.


What a load of utter shite ! ! !


In fact .............. Neary all of that post is utter shite .


Nah sorry, it's nae guid. Yer far too ambigious for me, Thally. What is it yer tryin' tae say, hen? Laughing
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Mr Page
 
 


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Page wrote:
prufrock wrote:
I dont see the fact that the girl waited 13 years is a problem except in the evidential aspect. But that favours the accused not the victim. i.e. if memories are blurred .
Leslie is priapic to excess, but hes no rapist.
The truth is the police now feel obliged to investigate with due diligence any allegation of rape etc, and the judiciary feel that cases should go to trial even when common sense would indicate otherwise.
If you wonder why so many rapists are cleared attend a high court trial or two, most of the time its just another case of two drunks staggering home in the rain from some club or party,
if this case goes to court I suspect the encounter will have commenced in a club or a party. Both parties will have been paralytic, just a gu


What do you base that statement on?


......................and I'm still waiting Pru!!!!

According to you I am "Preposterous" at least I can back up my arguments. You sidestepped this one and came out with more preposterous crap than I've ever been guilty of!!



What do you base all the shite you posted on this thread on Chomsky?


Laughing
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prufrock
 
 


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I retract my comment that he is no rapist, let the court decide. His cv would suggest that he is unlikely to be one. Few people outside the field of criminology grasp that a rapist usually starts out as an ordinary criminal, and will spend his teenage years commiting burglary, stealing cars, assault etc. in short rape will be a crossover offence. Leslie does not fit this profile remotely.
I am mystified by the reference to chomsky, maybe you are confusing me with someone else.
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