[Buhlay]

I responded to this same fake post just under a fortnight ago. (Bistalan@yahoo)
Only this time he posted about a flat on the Albert Embankment.
To be honest I was suspicious as soon as I read his email, which read exactly the same as the ones some of you have posted...My suspicions only grew when I passed on my number and offered as an alternative that he pass on his number. The response email I got completely ducked my request . He grew ever persistent that I send this money over to Moneygram. At first, I thought this would be fine, as I wouldnt be paying him the cash until we had 'met'. But I now realise that he asks for you to scan him in the receipt after you've paid it into your friends account, so he can copy the details and fashion himself some form of fake i.d to retrieve it.

Luckily I cottoned on in time and decided to Google his email address, which led me straight to this forum.

People like this make me so mad. But I agree with one of the earlier posters on here. I dont blame Gumtree entirely, it's easy to do that. This is what the internet is all about, its a public forum, so inevitably you will get con artists trying their luck. There's no debating that they are c*nts and should be locked up.
But from now on I'll be researching (and it really is as easy as typing a name into Google) and as said before; if it sounds too good to be true then it probably is.

Take special care everyone. And trust your instincts.

[bunnythumper]

thanks to the forum I have avoided this scam, though I knew in my heart it was too good to be true and that I think is what we have to remember.

http://cambridge.gumtree.com/cambridge/72/22464672.html

I don't know exactly how it works, but I'm guessing the scanned copy is produced at another WU office. I have replied to the email below offering a copy of a bankers draft as security and requesting registration details of the vehicle 'for sale' .....it will be interesting what response I get.

I always use peoples first names if possible and sign off with my first name but these guys are too busy to attend to these details... let it be a warning folks!

"Hi ,
Recently I got the opportunity to open a franchise in Pretoria(South Africa) with a partner, so I had to move here for few months.
I have decided to sell the car back in Mansfield, because it will cost me to much to ship and register it here in Pretoria. With the money I will get from selling it, I can easily buy a car here in South Africa without spending extra on shipping, registration and other fees.
I had a interested buyer 9 days ago who said he will buy the car if I come back to UK to ship it, so i got a plane ticket to UK, and guess what? When i arrived there, he didn't show up and after 2 days he gave me a call and said that he is sorry but he cant buy it anymore because his loan was rejected by the bank!
Now I don't want to buy another plane ticket to come and fall for it once more,maybe you wont show up.
So this is what I suggest,I think this is the best and safest way for the two of us.
You must find the nearest Western Union agency and you will go there with a relative, best friend, someone you trust.
Her comes the best part: your friend or relative will be the Sender and you will be the Receiver in UK.
This way you will have total control of your money, since you are the Receiver you are the only one that can pick them up!
I will be 100 % sure that you are a serious buyer, and that you will be in UK. because once the money is sent to you, you have to be in UK to pick them up.
Once you show me a photo or a scan copy of the receipt from Western Union in the amount of 6,500 pounds in your name, i will fly back home and meet with you and make the deal in person,then you will pick up the money from Western Union and pay me cash in hand.
Or, if you are busy or for some reason wont be available to pick up the car from my place, then i can come with my car and you will try it and transfer all the papers in your name.I will pay the transport fee and you pay the Western Union fee.
If you understand and agree with my terms please reply."

[bunnythumper]

sorry forgot to put his email address:

stevestc22@aol.com

[withoutroof]

<babalolo1@googlemail.com> wrote:
hello good morning thank for viewing my property i need you to understand that previous viewers have wasted most of my time
persistently and steal my properties. I will like to know if you are capable and serious
of paying for the rent and depost before coming for the viewing because after
everything i get cooked up with unimaginable stories like..i hav`nt been
paid my salaries, government need to sing for my benefit, I will implore you to show me you are capable of paying
for the rent and deposit of my flat, by maybe sending the deposit to any of your
friend and/or family's information via western union dont send money to my name and after
sending it,you will then send me the transfer details as you are capable of renting my flat. After i view it to be
available online i will arrange a viewing immediately. I promise to be
responsible for the transfer charges and this will be refunded when you
come for the viewing. Thanks for your understanding.
hope you really understood everything i said 'cuz you really sound
nice and lovely to me,well i want you to understand that if you you cant
send the money in my information cuz i don't need it ,you can send it in
your brothers name or friend's info but your name must be in receiver name. the flat i was having available was
2br flat each,but i just rented the second 2br flat out just
of recent,to a very serious and capable tenant.she scanned the copy of the
transfer she made to her brother in London for me to be sure of her capability ,and i call her immediately i comfirm her payment and i handover every
document to her,i gave her the transfered charges she spent in wiring the
money.

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this is what <babalolo1@googlemail.com> wrote (signing Larry Scott).
Fornutaly I realized it could be a scam, and as I replied he insisted for the money transfer.

[gboushel]

Hi,

I've just been scammed by this guy!!! Lost €400

I'm sooo annoyed and would be interested in contributing to legal action.
Does anyone know how I can get my money backl!!????

Thanks in advance!

[Dirty Mom]

[LarkyBoy]

Beware of this SCAMMER people, offered to make payment for this & uplift tickets from London, was told that he works outside London, asked why different name from e-mail to payment was told one was an agent, checked out address, no company or person there knows anything about this, please beware as I was almost caught out by this if it wasn't for my good lady!!!



Here's the invoice for your item

eBay/Gumtree Secured Transaction #23582782 for 2 Tickets Uefa Cup Final 2008 in Manchester

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Purchase protection and refund:

Currently, this seller has a US$ 15,000.00 deposit in an eBay managed purchase protection account. Transactions with this ebay seller are covered by purchase protection against fraud and description errors..........................................................
For your safety, this account was locked today, for 30 days time.. The seller is unable to withdraw any money from it, within this period.. In case you need a refund for this transaction, the insured amount will be taken from the seller's purchase protection account and sent to you.. The refund is sent to your bank account, or by check or money order..
The way you are refunded is at your choice.. You have 30 days from the above verification date to request a refund.. Refund requests are processed within 3 days..



CONDITIONS TO BE MET BEFORE YOU MAY ASK FOR A REFUND
Here are the situations suitable for a refund request:
1) If the item doesn't arrive and/or the seller stops communications after the payment was received;
2) If the merchandise you receive has different specifications than the ones you agreed on;
3) If your merchandise arrives in a much longer period than the one you agreed on (more than 15 days from the payment clearance day); For cases 2) and 3) you have to send back the merchandise to the seller prior to ask for your refund. If you did not pay the seller by the required payment method, your refund request would be declined.

Important Usage Guidelines:
1. The contact information should only be used for resolving matters related to eBay. Any other use is strictly prohibited.
2. This transaction is protected by eBay Secured services such as insurance, feedback and dispute resolution.
3. You may buy and sell with confidence in all transactions with this ebay member.
4. If you need to dispute this transaction, keep the transaction number at hand when contacting ebay. Any complaints must be filed within 30 days from the verification date.
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Dear ***********, the seller Colin Anderson started the transaction over the eBay Secured protection program.ebay requires the payment for this item to be done through Money Gram money transfer service to
a verified eBay Secured agent........................
If you are not familiarized with the Money Gram money transfer services please visit: www.moneygram.com.
If you want to locate the nearest Money Gram Office in your area please click here.
You have to pay with cash at any Money Gram Office.
Note: The funds will not be released under any circumstances. We will hold the payment until you will
send us your confirmation that you have received, inspected and you agree to keep the merchandise.
When we will have your confirmation we will transfer the funds to the seller.



___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
eBay Secured Agent Payment Details



Sale price : GBP 300.00

First Name: Ernest
Last Name: Kewel
Address: 39 Aldgate High Street
City: London
Postal Code: EC3N 1EA
Country: United Kingdom




How to make payment?
1. Locate the nearest Money Gram Office.
2. Make the payment with cash using the above agent details.
3. E-mail us the following details from the payment receipt:
- REFERENCE - 8 digits number from the payment receipt
- Sender Name and Address
- Receiver Name
- Amount
- Scanned copy of the payment receipt



Buyer Delivery informations :
First Name:

Last Name:

Address:

City:

Zip code:

Country:



___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Seller Item Title Qty. Price
Colin Anderson 2 Tickets Uefa Cup Final 2008 in Manchester 2 GBP 300.00


Subtotal: GBP 300.00
Shipping and handling via Sellers Standard International Rate is included in the price:


Total: GBP 300.00

[Lucky4Me!]

This is what I recieved:

Thanks for your fast response but i must tell you that i permanently Live and Work in South York, If I have to arrange a viewing for you, I would have to travel all the way from South York for the viewing, I am sure you realize that this is quite a distance for me. I have been deeply disappointed in the past. I have travelled
all the way from South York, (had to leave my Job, and take my time to come over) Only to be told by the person I am coming to meet that he can not afford the Security Deposit and 1st Month Rent and he wants me to let Him stay at my property for 1Month before he would be able to pay, some of them do not even have the Security Deposit. Some of them would not even turn out for the viewing, Most of them sent me Fake Bank Statements and Landlord Reference Letters even Fake Bank Reference Letters just to deceive me to come down from York. You can only imagine how irritating and annoying this can be.I would be need to verify that you are capable of renting my Property before coming over for the viewing, I would NOT need to see the following: BANKREFERENCE, STATEMENT OF BANK ACCOUNT, REFERENCE LETTER FROM PREVIOUS LANDLORD OR PAYSLIP. For now but I would need it during the renting process You would need to Locate a Western Union Outlet, make a transfer of the Security Deposit and 1 Month Rent to your friend, family member or partner then get back to me with the Western Union receipt that you would be issued. I would run the Receipt for a Proper verification that the Transfer (Transaction) Occurred and if I have been able to confirm that the transaction occurred, I would give you a call to arrange the a Day and Time for the viewing I just have to be sure that you are capable of renting my property and that you are a responsible Tenant.
The Western Union Charges would be refunded to you in cash or deducted from the Monthly rent (If you are renting my property).

I backed out when I couldn't find the house! and having just reading the other messages, what a relief I did was to good to be true!

[gums]

never ever send money through moneygram or western union how many times do we have to say that...

[lyagushonok]

new mail:

stephenronnie@yahoo.com

[lyagushonok]

I have just found out how stupid i was...Well this forum exists for months, have anyone done something real? Is there any legal actions????

[weeowen]

[Catalina]

Hi I am also a victim of a moneygram scam. We should get together to take legal actions against them. According to the police, it has been reported 20 cases daily and we have to do something about it. If you are interested in this email me to legalactionsagainstmoneygram@googlemail.com it is very important to contact people to has been victim of this moenygram scam. The more we are, the better actions we can take. Thanks

[Julia000]

I received this:

Hi,
I work in a hospital and is very hard for me to come in UK. I can't take the risk to leave my new job for days and when I arrive in UK to see that I come for nothing. I want to be 100% sure that when I will meet you, we do the rent papers then i can come back in Italy.
So i can be sure of that look how we can do:
You make the payment from your name and address to your best friend name and address in UK using MoneyGram for 2 months rent that means 1120 GBP and send me the scanned receipt. As soon as I see the scanned receipt that you have made the payment, I will come in UK and you will see the flat and maybe rent it. After that, we will go together at the MoneyGram office and you will take the money back and pay me.So all you have to do is to find a MoneyGram office and wire 1120 GBP from your name to your friend name and send the scanned receipt.I am asking you this to be sure that I do not come in UK for nothing. I hope you understand.
P.S : As I told you,I have a lot of customers interested to rent the apartment. I will reserve the apartment to the first one that provides me the scanned paper from MoneyGram. As soon as I have the confirmation from MoneyGram that the money are available on his name I stop the transactions with all the other customers !

From morrisonphilip64@yahoo.co.uk

Thanks to everyone for making noise about these scams - needless to say I haven't bothered responding...

[sMinty]

Me and my girlfriend very nearly got caught out on this one. We were even close to getting out a loan, so it would've cost us more than the £900 he asked for.

This one was from 'Andy Williams'

Re: Your Gumtree.com ad #24573643: One bedroom flat to rent in 9 Albert Embankment, Waterloo‏
From: Andy Williams (williamsa9018@yahoo.co.uk)
Sent: 04 June 2008 02:27:34
Reply-to: williamsa9018@yahoo.co.uk
To: XXXXXXXX

Hi,
My name is Andy Williams and I have the flat for rent. The rent is 450£ per month including all bills and the concil tax. I moved in Venice, Italy because I got a new job. I work in a hospital. You can rent the flat as long as you need to stay even for 2 or 3 years. The first payment will be for 2 months(900£).In case you want it, let me know so we can arrange the transaction. For me is very hard to come in UK and if I will come i must be 100% sure that I will not come for nothing. As you can see in the photos everything it's new in the flat and the flat is fully furnished, newly refurbished and also benefits from wood flooring. You have internet connection, phone, washing machine with dryer, cable TV and most important parking place.Please let me know what your intentions are....when you intend to move in?how long you want the contract to last for?how many people would be living in it and some other things you feel i should know.
Get back to me.

That's from williamsa9018@yahoo.co.uk

[e.de-klerk]

I am not sure if I was almost scammed however this was very fishy as firstly he said that he left Cardiff 5 days ago and he lives in Scotland. Secondly he needed the money (£100.00) to pay for the transportation of the birds to me however when I said that I needed him to send me the confirmation of how he wants the money paid the details he provided was as he says for his wife in CAMEROUN and lastly when I spoke to him on the telephone he definately did not have a scottish accent.

Can someone possibly assist me in letting me know where I can find more out about these 070... telephone numbers - I am concerned about the cost of the call I made to him


Gumtee ad:
Your Gumtree Cardiff ad #23466747
A pair african grey parrots for adoption
23466747
Date posted: Saturday 10th May
Location: cardiff
Am seeking for a new home for my seven months old male and female African greys babies. They are hand fed,tamed and DNA tested and raised for pets, loving and just wants to be with you being scratched and loved. Talking ability is fair, beautiful, healthy and could live with another bird. Have large cage to go with them for free, but will prefers they be out hanging around with their chew toys. Needs lots of toys and wood to excercise that big beak. loves bungies and swings. spends a lot of time hanging upside down, likes the world better that way.get back for more details.

I replied to the ad via email: pethill20@gmail.com
and received the following email from Dalton Powels at the above mentioned email address:

email below received:
Hello and thanks for getting back to us in regards to our lovely pair of African Grey parrots.We will love to let you know that our parrots are talking birds and can say Hello.They are also very healthy and got all their documents.Where are you located and how soon do you need the parrots.We are getting rid of the pair for a very low and considerable price for all.Get back to us as soon as possible or feel free to call us at 07031871836.Thanks

I replied and asked how much he wanted for the birds

email below received from him:
Thanks for your quick response.I am a bird lover and a very honest man from Scotland,i love parrots and they are my passion.I hurts me getting rid of this babies but for their care and love i need to get rid of them due to my busy schedule.I will love still to ask you this question,where are you located at?I am getting rid of the parrots to any loving and caring home at 200pounds and thats all.They parrots will be coming along with all their accessories as well.Please convince me that you will take proper care of my parrots.Thanks

I replied and said that I could only afford £100.00

email below was the response I received
No thats fine.My interest is not the money but a caring and loving home for the parrots and i know your home will be that home.The 100pounds is okay by me.I will use it to transport the parrots to you since i am in Scotland now.I left Cardiff five days ago.I will need your information such as your home address and contact phone# not forgetting the closest airport by your home.Delivery will be setup tomorrow morning if thats fine by you.The parrots will be delivered to you at your home address.if all this is fine by you,then you will need to send me the 100pounds in the morning to my address here in Scotland so i get on with delivery.You can feel free to give me a call at 07031871836.

I then contacted him on the 07031871836 telephone number - he advised that I needed to pay the money over money gram - see his email below which he confirmed after the telephone call

Yes of course,my parrots will be coming in their cage along side all their accessories so that you will not need to spend any more in purchasing any item for the parrots.I know your home will be the best for the parrots and thats why i got no regrets doing this for you.As concerns the payment,you will need to go to the post office first thing in the morning and use their money gram service and send the money to the names and address below.You will be sending the money to my wife as the parrots belong to her.So you need to send the money to her.As soon as she confirms the payment,i will be taking the parrots for transportation and the will be getting to you latest should be 4:30pm tomorrow afternoon and you need to be home to receive them.All you need to do is go to the post office and use money gram first thing in the morning and send the 100pounds to the names and address below;

NAMES.............MRS MINETTE TCHOUANKAP
COUNTRY..........CAMEROUN
ZIPCODE.............00237
STATE................LITTORAL
CITY..................DOUALA
ADDRESS........1023 BASTOS AVE

Please i will wish you make the payment before 10am in the morning so that it could get to you as promised.In case of any questions,please dont feel to give me a call.I am at your service.Thanks

I then sent him a final email advising that I was unable to make payment before receiving the birds. I gave him an option for Cash on Delivery,posting a cheque to him or paying it into his bank account once we have received the birds. I advised him that I could get references for him if required. I have received no response

[Mike_master]

[wara]

Hi everyone,

I can't believe how many people have been affected by this scam. I have lost 500 pounds last friday. My name was a a receiver but somehow this scam people cashed the money out. I'm not even in London! I dont' know how did they do it & the moneygram refused to give any information as to how & when & what id the person used when they received the money. My best friend in London was a sender. I was looking for a flat in london & this person who claimed to own a flat in knightsbridge asking me to send moneygram to my friend to prove funds but I've shown him my bank statement prior to that & he said his lawyer said it wasn't sufficient. It has to be moneygram only. At that time , I had so many replied to my ad, all asking for moneygram so I thought it was normal because I thought they can't cash the money out anyway if it's not in their name so my friend did send it to my name and on the day my friend supposed to meet with him to sign the lease, he disappear and yesterday we've found out that he had cashed the money on that day. He sent me his copy of passport, draft lease & photos of the flat which they are probably fake as well. I've asked my friend to contact the police but they said they can't do much without confirm in writing from moneygram about the receiver details which moneygram refused to do so. I don't know what else to do. If anyone going ahead with legal action, please count me in. Thanks

[marc.loakes]

this scammer is back:
http://www.gumtree.com/london/28/25777028.html
Now, when i saw this i thought it was a bit too good a be true... especially when the description is identical to a 1.25million pound flat on the knight frank website... and with the same photos... http://www.knightfrank.co.uk/RS1050588

Apart from 930/month is a bit cheap.

So, i emailed him asking if i could rent the flat and was told...

[marc.loakes]

i forgot to add... his latest alias is 'Danny' and email is danny928brandon@yahoo.com

[gums]

why would anyone in 2008 with a brain pay by money gram?........

[hellothere]

Hi there,

I fell for this scam recently and i want to know if anyone was successful in retrieving the money back from moneygram. Please advise.

Some of the frauds who live happily on others' hard earned money include

Virgil Malloy - vmalloy44@googlemail.com
Mirk Howerd - homirkgovs@gmail.com

Some postings that potentially changed many lives:

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Thanks for the email concerning the Apartment and it is still for rent am the rightful Owner of the Property i need a Honest and decent person that will rent the property from me i do have a Supermarket in Oxford and that the reason why am renting it out instead of selling off the Apartment.I have been so Busy i would have got back to you for more details needed so i have the details and Pics here do get back to me if you are Interested.

Here are some details about the Property. Internet/Cable Ready Brand New Washer & Dryer in the apartment Huge Windows in the entire Apt/Lots of Light Dishwasher Living Room is Furnished w/2 pc Sectional Jennifer Convertible Couch; Denon Surround Sound Speakers Gourmet Style Kitchen open into the Living Room Hardwood Floor,12" Ceilings The Room: Master Bedroom Furnished.

Nearest Tube Station Forrest Hill and it just a 3min Work from Home to the Tube station
Yes you can pay up each Week it all depends on how long you renting the Apartment

My asking Price is 650pcm and the security Deposit is 500 which would be refundable after Rent if no Damages is Caused to the Property.When is your best time for Viewing and please do make sure you are serious in renting the Apartment.I would not mind if you need the Apartment for a long or short period of time it all depends on you..

650 INCLUSIVE ALL UTILITY BILLS EXEC COUNCIL TAX AND BT.
I have attached the Picture Below:

Regards

Virgil malloy.
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Hello,
The apartment is avaible for rent ,the monthly rent is £520 including bills and council tax.I`m a Landlord,no agencies,I am a full time associate dentist in a NHS plus private dental clinic in NewCastle upon Tyne and i have the apartment avaible ,ready to move in.If you want we can sign the Contract for any time you want if you like the flat after inspect it.I don`t want any deposit before you see and inspect the flat but want to make sure i wont come for nothing to show you the flat.Modern bathroom with shower over bath with glass screen. Decorated throughout in neutral tones this property is of a high standard, good for company lets.As you can see in the pictures the flat is fully furnished and also benefits from wood flooring,Phone jack,Hardwood floor,TV,Alarm system, Washer/Dryer, Internet, Cable ready, Dishwasher,lift,most all facilities.I can come and meet you anytime during this week and show you the flat please advise what time suits you.
E-mail at your earliest convenience

Mirk
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[reens]

[hellothere]

Potential suspect:

Henry Allen: hallen122@gmail.com

Beware of this person and dont send any moneygram receipt to him. Take care.

[jaspal25]

Hi Dalila,

I realised this morning that I have been scammed by this moneygram transfer.
I have lost 1400 pounds trying to prove my ability to pay a house rent.
I am by all means ready to support any joint action against moneygram.
They told me that the moneygram is not responsible for people who pretend with fake ID's and take money.

Anyboody who has been able to get their money back, please post.
Does anyone have any contact numbers for any regulatory board regulating moineygram transfers, please post.

Jas