Gumtree Forum Index
 
 GumtreeGumtree   SearchSearch   RegisterRegister   Log inLog in   ProfileProfile   MemberlistMemberlist   FAQFAQ 

Which is worse?

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Gumtree Forum Index -> Edinburgh Chat
Author Message
Misunderstood
 
 


Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Posts: 67

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:58 am    Post subject: Which is worse? Reply with quote

Being racist or homophobic? What do you think?
Back to top
weered
 
 


Joined: 23 Dec 2007
Posts: 6645
Location: on the edge

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Which is worse? Reply with quote

Misunderstood wrote:
Being racist or homophobic? What do you think?


both as bad as each other...
Back to top
hypnoscot
 
 


Joined: 27 Jan 2007
Posts: 242
Location: Contact me at gmail: pleasureprincipal

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They tend to go together. People who are too insecure and fear-filled to cope with the complexities of life tend to look for arbitrary certainties to cling onto, which allow them to then stigmatise 'others' as being the source of the problems they perceive. They'll construct in their heads a notion of 'normality' which is always ludicrous as soon as you deconstruct it in detail. But they never tend to do so, instead dealing in broad-brush symbols that give them the illusion that their norms make some sort of sense. This is what enables the Daily Mail to sell its so-called newspapers. Its readership feels secure in the constant assurances that they themselves are (mostly) normal, and that it's all those other abnormal and alien people who are to blame. It's rare for such people only to have one hate-group to pick on. Mostly they'll stigmatise every other so-called minority of which they themselves are not a part...
Back to top
Mr Page
 
 


Joined: 05 Dec 2007
Posts: 626
Location: up my own erse usually

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being racist is more generic. If you are homophobic you hide behind hate for sexuality. If you are racist you hide behind hate for every other race/culture on the planet and that is worse in my book.

Having said that homophobia is pretty disgusting too.

I know it all stems from insecurity and inability to work out their own preferences and tolerances themselves, probably quoting what their family/friends etc think because it's the only opinion the hater has heard, without thinking it through themselves.

Blah blah blah, I'd still go for racism to be more dangerous than homophobia, albeit not to far ahead.
Back to top
Koinneach



Joined: 08 May 2008
Posts: 36
Location: Midlothian

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both are bad but they both allow some people to use words and sentences which reek of Pish Rolling Eyes Cmon They are both hate filled and it should not be tolerated end of story
Back to top
Mr Page
 
 


Joined: 05 Dec 2007
Posts: 626
Location: up my own erse usually

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koinneach wrote:
Both are bad but they both allow some people to use words and sentences which reek of Pish Rolling Eyes Cmon They are both hate filled and it should not be tolerated end of story


If you cant understand a post just ask, if you refer to it as "pish", you may well look at bit dumb.

Its quite clear that both issues should not be tolerated..............BUT the question was, "which one is worse?"

.........to which we answered.

Jeez Rolling Eyes
Back to top
Ceejayo
 
 


Joined: 05 Sep 2007
Posts: 15191
Location: Manchester

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a bit of a crap question though, when it can only be answered by reference to emotions, and those self-same emotions are unquantifiable.
Back to top
Mr Page
 
 


Joined: 05 Dec 2007
Posts: 626
Location: up my own erse usually

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ceejayo wrote:
It's a bit of a crap question though, when it can only be answered by reference to emotions, and those self-same emotions are unquantifiable.


Aye, good point CJ. Opinions are good too though as they spark debate. For example I said I thought racism was moderately worse. Many may think that H'phobia is.
Back to top
rodneyT
 
 


Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 362
Location: looking for a hot babe!!!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

at the end of the day we are all the same, we're all made of the same stuff and have the same physical contents(ie lungs heart etc) its only our thinking that makes us different. lets not impose our beliefs or feelings upon each other for that is bullshite. what is criminal is a wasted mind!
Back to top
TamedTigress



Joined: 21 May 2008
Posts: 26
Location: Musselburgh

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I, too, think they go togehter. It`s both about rejecting difference.
Back to top
shirt-n-tie-boy
 
 


Joined: 13 Jun 2008
Posts: 85
Location: Lothian, Scotland

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only way you can accurately answer this question is with a logical approach. In which case if you look at it statistically then racism is worse as I am pretty sure there are more racially motivated crimes and complaints reported.

However I would also assume it depends on what area of the UK you are in. There will be areas where homophobia is the more problematic issue. Some towns and cities clearly have vastly different amounts of race, and as such much higher or lower levels of racism when you compare different areas.

I don't actually know what the stats are but perhaps you may want to do a little google research Misunderstood - seeing your the original poster Smile and would be good if you could report back to us on your findings!

This kind of statistical data should be available in a basic form on government websites that record and monitor these figures.
Back to top
rodneyT
 
 


Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 362
Location: looking for a hot babe!!!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

racist crime in scotland is gradually rising, in 2003 there were just over 3300 reported incidents and in 2007 just over 4360. thats reported i would probably say unreported is approx double that figure or more.
are our police force racist?
Back to top
Thally
 
 


Joined: 19 Mar 2007
Posts: 8232
Location: Edinburgh

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Page wrote:
Koinneach wrote:
Both are bad but they both allow some people to use words and sentences which reek of Pish Rolling Eyes Cmon They are both hate filled and it should not be tolerated end of story


If you cant understand a post just ask, if you refer to it as "pish", you may well look at bit dumb.

Its quite clear that both issues should not be tolerated..............BUT the question was, "which one is worse?"

.........to which we answered.

Jeez Rolling Eyes





I agree with Mr Page Smile
Back to top
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Gumtree Forum Index -> Edinburgh Chat All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 






Forum Terms & Conditions


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group