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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:21 pm    Post subject: Another stabbing in London but look at the Times article Reply with quote

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/

Have a look at the picture above "Three arrested after another fatal stabbing". It is a white hand holding a knife, yet all the stabbings in London so far have been from black youths. Why not show a black hand in the picture?

This is so out of order. It is what I wrote about in the other post about the UK. What we have here is a situation where they did not show a 'black' hand in the picture for fear of attack from ethnic groups in the UK, even though the murderers are Black youths.

Unbelievable. We are now not allowed to show black hands holding knives, for fear of racist comments, even though Blacks are the ones doing the killings. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Another stabbing in London but look at the Times article Reply with quote

he's_a_very_naughty_boy wrote:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/

Have a look at the picture above "Three arrested after another fatal stabbing". It is a white hand holding a knife, yet all the stabbings in London so far have been from black youths. Why not show a black hand in the picture?

This is so out of order. It is what I wrote about in the other post about the UK. What we have here is a situation where they did not show a 'black' hand in the picture for fear of attack from ethnic groups in the UK, even though the murderers are Black youths.

Unbelievable. We are now not allowed to show black hands holding knives, for fear of racist comments, even though Blacks are the ones doing the killings. Rolling Eyes




Rolling Eyes


its been going on for YEARS mate , just now gets talked about as there is nothing else to go on about.
violent crime is DOWN 45% from '95
FACT
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

because they got it from their archived stock images?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Another stabbing in London but look at the Times article Reply with quote

YID IN ST.A wrote:
he's_a_very_naughty_boy wrote:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/

Have a look at the picture above "Three arrested after another fatal stabbing". It is a white hand holding a knife, yet all the stabbings in London so far have been from black youths. Why not show a black hand in the picture?

This is so out of order. It is what I wrote about in the other post about the UK. What we have here is a situation where they did not show a 'black' hand in the picture for fear of attack from ethnic groups in the UK, even though the murderers are Black youths.

Unbelievable. We are now not allowed to show black hands holding knives, for fear of racist comments, even though Blacks are the ones doing the killings. Rolling Eyes




Rolling Eyes


its been going on for YEARS mate , just now gets talked about as there is nothing else to go on about.
violent crime is DOWN 45% from '95
FACT


You are being sarcastic there aren't you Yid? You are of course stating falsified Government and Police statistics? It's just odd because if you aren't then I did actually post a thread a month or so back showing that violent crime has gone up every year under Labour. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Another stabbing in London but look at the Times article Reply with quote

he's_a_very_naughty_boy wrote:
YID IN ST.A wrote:
he's_a_very_naughty_boy wrote:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/

Have a look at the picture above "Three arrested after another fatal stabbing". It is a white hand holding a knife, yet all the stabbings in London so far have been from black youths. Why not show a black hand in the picture?

This is so out of order. It is what I wrote about in the other post about the UK. What we have here is a situation where they did not show a 'black' hand in the picture for fear of attack from ethnic groups in the UK, even though the murderers are Black youths.

Unbelievable. We are now not allowed to show black hands holding knives, for fear of racist comments, even though Blacks are the ones doing the killings. Rolling Eyes




Rolling Eyes


its been going on for YEARS mate , just now gets talked about as there is nothing else to go on about.
violent crime is DOWN 45% from '95
FACT


You are being sarcastic there aren't you Yid? You are of course stating falsified Government and Police statistics? It's just odd because if you aren't then I did actually post a thread a month or so back showing that violent crime has gone up every year under Labour. Rolling Eyes




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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Another stabbing in London but look at the Times article Reply with quote

YID IN ST.A wrote:
he's_a_very_naughty_boy wrote:


You are being sarcastic there aren't you Yid? You are of course stating falsified Government and Police statistics? It's just odd because if you aren't then I did actually post a thread a month or so back showing that violent crime has gone up every year under Labour. Rolling Eyes






Yid you are being sarcastic, or are you saying that Police and government figures are in fact correct?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Another stabbing in London but look at the Times article Reply with quote

he's_a_very_naughty_boy wrote:
YID IN ST.A wrote:
he's_a_very_naughty_boy wrote:


You are being sarcastic there aren't you Yid? You are of course stating falsified Government and Police statistics? It's just odd because if you aren't then I did actually post a thread a month or so back showing that violent crime has gone up every year under Labour. Rolling Eyes






Yid you are being sarcastic, or are you saying that Police and government figures are in fact correct?



your starting to sound like one of these conspiracy theorists mate
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Another stabbing in London but look at the Times article Reply with quote

he's_a_very_naughty_boy wrote:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/

Have a look at the picture above "Three arrested after another fatal stabbing". It is a white hand holding a knife, yet all the stabbings in London so far have been from black youths. Why not show a black hand in the picture?

This is so out of order. It is what I wrote about in the other post about the UK. What we have here is a situation where they did not show a 'black' hand in the picture for fear of attack from ethnic groups in the UK, even though the murderers are Black youths.

Unbelievable. We are now not allowed to show black hands holding knives, for fear of racist comments, even though Blacks are the ones doing the killings. Rolling Eyes


Remember that photo they kept showing of Stephen Lawrence against that wallpaper with the banana leaves on it? Well, they ALWAYS cut out the Black Power salute he was doing with his right hand.
Look where it has got the UK now.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Another stabbing in London but look at the Times article Reply with quote

Hi again wrote:
he's_a_very_naughty_boy wrote:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/

Have a look at the picture above "Three arrested after another fatal stabbing". It is a white hand holding a knife, yet all the stabbings in London so far have been from black youths. Why not show a black hand in the picture?

This is so out of order. It is what I wrote about in the other post about the UK. What we have here is a situation where they did not show a 'black' hand in the picture for fear of attack from ethnic groups in the UK, even though the murderers are Black youths.

Unbelievable. We are now not allowed to show black hands holding knives, for fear of racist comments, even though Blacks are the ones doing the killings. Rolling Eyes


Remember that photo they kept showing of Stephen Lawrence against that wallpaper with the banana leaves on it? Well, they ALWAYS cut out the Black Power salute he was doing with his right hand.
Look where it has got the UK now.


Very true.
Theres alot of questions over that whole case.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Another stabbing in London but look at the Times article Reply with quote

YID IN ST.A wrote:
he's_a_very_naughty_boy wrote:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/

Have a look at the picture above "Three arrested after another fatal stabbing". It is a white hand holding a knife, yet all the stabbings in London so far have been from black youths. Why not show a black hand in the picture?

This is so out of order. It is what I wrote about in the other post about the UK. What we have here is a situation where they did not show a 'black' hand in the picture for fear of attack from ethnic groups in the UK, even though the murderers are Black youths.

Unbelievable. We are now not allowed to show black hands holding knives, for fear of racist comments, even though Blacks are the ones doing the killings. Rolling Eyes




Rolling Eyes


its been going on for YEARS mate , just now gets talked about as there is nothing else to go on about.
violent crime is DOWN 45% from '95
FACT



actually that is not a fact at all

crime of all sorts has risen massively in the last 50 yrs

plerase dont tell me that you trust the statistics
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Another stabbing in London but look at the Times article Reply with quote

YID IN ST.A wrote:
he's_a_very_naughty_boy wrote:
YID IN ST.A wrote:
he's_a_very_naughty_boy wrote:


You are being sarcastic there aren't you Yid? You are of course stating falsified Government and Police statistics? It's just odd because if you aren't then I did actually post a thread a month or so back showing that violent crime has gone up every year under Labour. Rolling Eyes






Yid you are being sarcastic, or are you saying that Police and government figures are in fact correct?



your starting to sound like one of these conspiracy theorists mate


Yid, violent crime is up under Labour. All you have to do is google it.
I wrote an article on it to Ticcan and prooved my point. Overall crime they say is down but violent crime is up. The reason that overall crime figures are down is because people don't bother reporting them for pathetic police response times as well as the CPS continually throwing them out of court. So in effect Yid, all of crime is up under Labour but Violent Crime in particular. If you don't believe me then google "Violent Crime in the UK". Read for yourself.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Another stabbing in London but look at the Times article Reply with quote

.? wrote:
YID IN ST.A wrote:
he's_a_very_naughty_boy wrote:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/

Have a look at the picture above "Three arrested after another fatal stabbing". It is a white hand holding a knife, yet all the stabbings in London so far have been from black youths. Why not show a black hand in the picture?

This is so out of order. It is what I wrote about in the other post about the UK. What we have here is a situation where they did not show a 'black' hand in the picture for fear of attack from ethnic groups in the UK, even though the murderers are Black youths.

Unbelievable. We are now not allowed to show black hands holding knives, for fear of racist comments, even though Blacks are the ones doing the killings. Rolling Eyes




Rolling Eyes


its been going on for YEARS mate , just now gets talked about as there is nothing else to go on about.
violent crime is DOWN 45% from '95
FACT



actually that is not a fact at all

crime of all sorts has risen massively in the last 50 yrs

plerase dont tell me that you trust the statistics



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Another stabbing in London but look at the Times article Reply with quote

he's_a_very_naughty_boy wrote:
YID IN ST.A wrote:
he's_a_very_naughty_boy wrote:
YID IN ST.A wrote:
he's_a_very_naughty_boy wrote:


You are being sarcastic there aren't you Yid? You are of course stating falsified Government and Police statistics? It's just odd because if you aren't then I did actually post a thread a month or so back showing that violent crime has gone up every year under Labour. Rolling Eyes






Yid you are being sarcastic, or are you saying that Police and government figures are in fact correct?



your starting to sound like one of these conspiracy theorists mate


Yid, violent crime is up under Labour. All you have to do is google it.
I wrote an article on it to Ticcan and prooved my point. Overall crime they say is down but violent crime is up. The reason that overall crime figures are down is because people don't bother reporting them for pathetic police response times as well as the CPS continually throwing them out of court. So in effect Yid, all of crime is up under Labour but Violent Crime in particular. If you don't believe me then google "Violent Crime in the UK". Read for yourself.



all crime has increased as the govt well knows

the police stats fail to tell us anything about non reported crime - estimated to be as many instances as are actually reported

BCS stats do not include any crime affecting under 16 and also exclude sex crimes and drug crimes

the govt puts the crime fig at 11 million crimes

the BCS put 20million crimes as the actual figure

independant analysts place the figure at 62 million
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its even more interesting when look at figs for the 1950s which had recorded crimes at 170,000 - so even by the govts own figs crime has increased massively in 50yrs
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here you go YID. This is the link I used to my thread to Ticcan about Violent Crime :

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2006/may/28/ukcrime.immigrationpolicy

Specifically I quoted the following :

In 1980, the first full year of the last Tory government, police in England and Wales recorded 4,390 'woundings or other acts endangering life'. In 1997, the year of Blair's first victory, the figure was 12,531. In 2004-5 it reached 19,425, nearly four times the level 20 years earlier. Convictions rose, but they did not keep pace. In 1980, 1,277 people were found guilty of life-threatening attacks, 29 per cent of the recorded total. In 1997, 1,864 were convicted - 14.8 per cent of perpetrators. In 2004-5 the number convicted was just 1,897, despite the increase in crimes - a rate of only 9.7 per cent.

and

Robbery - a category that runs from mugging to bank raids - presents a similar picture. In 1980, the police recorded 15,800 crimes, with 3,600 convictions and cautions - a rate of 22.7 per cent. By 1997, offences were running at 63,072, with 6,426 convictions and cautions - 10.2 per cent. Under Labour, Blair has personally driven police 'street crime initiatives' to get the robbery figures down, and from a peak of more than 100,000 in 2002, recorded robberies fell in 2004-5 to 88,710. Yet the rate of convictions and cautions fell too, with the 7,932 total representing 8.9 per cent of offences.

and

Sex crime presents a still more dismal picture. The recorded figures for rapes against females in 1980, 1997 and 2004-5 were respectively 1,200, 6,281 and 12,867 - an almost elevenfold increase in 25 years. The corresponding conviction totals and percentage rates were 457, or 38 per cent; 576, or 9.2 per cent, and 704, just 5.5 per cent: the chance that the perpetrator of a recorded rape would ever be convicted was one seventh as great in 2005 as it was in 1980.

For other sexual assaults on women, recorded offences rose from 13,340 in 1987 (the 1980 figure is not comparable), to 18,674 in 1997, and to 26,709 in 2004. Here the total of convictions plus cautions actually fell - from 3,529 to 3,401 to 2,951, a decline in the conviction rate over just 18 years from 26.5 per cent to 11 per cent.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Another stabbing in London but look at the Times article Reply with quote

.? wrote:

all crime has increased as the govt well knows

the police stats fail to tell us anything about non reported crime - estimated to be as many instances as are actually reported

BCS stats do not include any crime affecting under 16 and also exclude sex crimes and drug crimes

the govt puts the crime fig at 11 million crimes

the BCS put 20million crimes as the actual figure

independant analysts place the figure at 62 million


You'll remember how I disproved Ticcan's analysis that crime was down under Labour. Well I've posted the article from the Observer above from the same thread. I can't find it. It's gone. My thread to Ticcan that is.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

he's_a_very_naughty_boy wrote:
Here you go YID. This is the link I used to my thread to Ticcan about Violent Crime :

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2006/may/28/ukcrime.immigrationpolicy

Specifically I quoted the following :

In 1980, the first full year of the last Tory government, police in England and Wales recorded 4,390 'woundings or other acts endangering life'. In 1997, the year of Blair's first victory, the figure was 12,531. In 2004-5 it reached 19,425, nearly four times the level 20 years earlier. Convictions rose, but they did not keep pace. In 1980, 1,277 people were found guilty of life-threatening attacks, 29 per cent of the recorded total. In 1997, 1,864 were convicted - 14.8 per cent of perpetrators. In 2004-5 the number convicted was just 1,897, despite the increase in crimes - a rate of only 9.7 per cent.

and

Robbery - a category that runs from mugging to bank raids - presents a similar picture. In 1980, the police recorded 15,800 crimes, with 3,600 convictions and cautions - a rate of 22.7 per cent. By 1997, offences were running at 63,072, with 6,426 convictions and cautions - 10.2 per cent. Under Labour, Blair has personally driven police 'street crime initiatives' to get the robbery figures down, and from a peak of more than 100,000 in 2002, recorded robberies fell in 2004-5 to 88,710. Yet the rate of convictions and cautions fell too, with the 7,932 total representing 8.9 per cent of offences.

and

Sex crime presents a still more dismal picture. The recorded figures for rapes against females in 1980, 1997 and 2004-5 were respectively 1,200, 6,281 and 12,867 - an almost elevenfold increase in 25 years. The corresponding conviction totals and percentage rates were 457, or 38 per cent; 576, or 9.2 per cent, and 704, just 5.5 per cent: the chance that the perpetrator of a recorded rape would ever be convicted was one seventh as great in 2005 as it was in 1980.

For other sexual assaults on women, recorded offences rose from 13,340 in 1987 (the 1980 figure is not comparable), to 18,674 in 1997, and to 26,709 in 2004. Here the total of convictions plus cautions actually fell - from 3,529 to 3,401 to 2,951, a decline in the conviction rate over just 18 years from 26.5 per cent to 11 per cent.



you dont BELIVE that do you
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they put up a black hand they paper would be getting letters about how they are being racist maybe even sued.. Sounds rather fucking stupid.. maybe someone should submit a pic of a black hand and a white hand in the same photo Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

6XKesX9 wrote:
If they put up a black hand the paper would be getting letters about how they are being racist maybe even sued.. Sounds rather fucking stupid.. maybe someone should submit a pic of a black hand and a white hand in the same photo Rolling Eyes
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