[doctordick]

just leave this stupid thread to die...

[petervonryan]

ok so there you have it this guy is considerate intelligent never insults or demeans anyone and of course he is a genius unlike any other people out here who are all morons.......he is also hilarious....I wonder if he has the brains to see how much fun we get from reading his comical rants!! keep going fella you cheer us all up with every post you write!!

[RotHeissPfefferStreber]

[mimicafe]

I thought RotHeissPfefferStreber says he is not a TIC agent. But looking some of the previous discussions and I see RotHeissPfefferStreber attacking other members. If he has interest in all these, then why use abusive words like those below?

[mimicafe]

No comment from RotHeissPfefferStreber is welcome on this!


II am looking for people who can act as witness against RED/TIC.

I conducted RED/TIC to refund my money because the mis-sold the course to me:

1. They lied that can train me within three months
2. They told me my EU licence is accepted my the DSA, although the knew very well that the DSA only accepts UK licence only
3. The lied to me that I could train at my own pace, but when I call them to book my session, they only offer me session every 3 – 5 weeks.

Red told me they can train me to become a training instructor within three months. I believed them (because I have been driving for over 15 years, I thought 3 months was realistic, so I said to them I am happy if I qualify within 5 months) and signed the agreement. Since signing the contract, it was always difficult to book my sessions because they have no trainers. Six months into the training and I only completed about 30% of the required 25 sessions.

The Financial Ombudsman wrote to me and I intend to reply and providing names and (if possible) addresses of people who have been mislead by RED/TIC just as me.

Please email me (mimicafe@googlemail.com) your full name and address or telephone if you are willing to help. Your email should contain a word like Red, Instructor College in the subject or body so it does not go to my junk mail folder.


PS. If anyone ever needs a witness, then do not hesitate to contact me. I believe RED/TIC are always capable of doing anything non-ethical and illegal, so I will always support anyone who has dispute with them.

[mimicafe]

Hello RotHeissPfefferStreber,

In case you are a kid, then please note that non of this below is funny. Red/TIC misled so many people into debts, and for most people this is not peanuts. It should cannot be funny if a company misled a woman with three kids into 4K or more debts.

You just luck any taste or sense of moral. Shame dich!


I have e-mailed the forum admin to review your comments and action to remove you.

[RotHeissPfefferStreber]

Well, mimicafe, first thing is your silly "RHPS need not reply" is hardly going to cut any ice with me

I would hope the forum admin are of sufficiently sound mind to first of all realise that what I'm saying is chickenfeed compared to what else gets said and discussed on this forum. With mine, there is the added advantage that it is correct and makes sense. That can't be said for everyone else, can it?

I suspect also that in the interests of free speech, me being able to have my say prevents your kind from getting what it wants and just being able to say stupid things about Red without anyone clarifying the errors in those stupid things.

The problem we have here is that you are definitely in the wrong, but you are trying to blame your mistakes on someone else. The rest of your ilk is exactly the same: they're all guilty of the most ridiculous financial and career decisions imaginable, and they're trying to blame it on Red. Oooh. And Barclays - the libel doesn't stop in one place with that sort of person.

I notice you are close to blowing a gasket over this. That's another trait which is not a good one to have in an ADI. Lucky escape, eh?

Now, on to your further attempt to gather libel in order to fuel your erroneous belief that Red is the cause of all your woes. Why don't you go to Crazy Land on the Facebook site and gather all those up? It's a captive audience and they'll all believe anything you say, just as you'll believe anything they say?

Can't you get it into your head that even if you have a legitimate case against Red, and Red is refusing to play ball, just getting a gaggle of crazies who don't have cases of any kind is not going to strengthen yours.

Red has done nothing illegal. Your comments that they have are libel - and that IS very close to being illegal. People in glass houses, eh? Tch.

[RotHeissPfefferStreber]

Oooh. And I don't work for Red.

Even if I did, what difference would it make? I'm still right, you're still wrong

[mimicafe]

I have reasons to take this personal. What about you? Do you love Red for know reason or are you just bored with your own life?

I am not going to continue this with you because I cannot see your reasons for doing all this.

If you were to work for Red, then I will have a reason to continue this war with you, but if you are just someone who has nothing else to do except going about all forum defending Red for know reason (as you want us to believe), then sorry mate.

One thing is sure, there are too many people out there who have a common goal to expose Red, and you cannot stop this force.

I cannot continue with you because I am not out of my senses.

[RotHeissPfefferStreber]

It's hardly 'personal' if you're trying to involve anyone and everyone (and his dog) who has a bad story to tell, whether you know it to be true or not - and we already know you aren't interested in anything which isn't negative.

I think I told you a while back that you should keep it personal, didn't I? If it wasn't you, it was someone else claiming to have THE definitive just case against Red. Sort it out directly with them and don't involve crazy people off the streets who are plain wrong, or just stirring things.

I don't give two hoots whether I stop the Crazy Gang or not. But they aren't going to get a free lunch blathering away on here while free speech allows my voice to be heard.

It's ironic that what you want to say is at least as aggressive as what I want to say - but look who it is who's getting angry at not being able to win Speaks volumes, I think.

Declaring oneself to not be out of one's senses is a very subjective thing to say

[doctordick]

is this still going on........snore!

RotHeissPfefferStreber - I bet you are a short and fat, middled aged man Probably long hair tied back in a ponytail and really greasy. Star wars/trek fan? Your definately losing your hair too, oh and have terrible nostril/ear hair. Your permanently fixed to your hitech nerdy chair where you spend way too much time surfing the net. Terrible acne...yet you wonder why you can't get yourself a girlfriend (prostitutes do not count).

Your a troll! I assume you get the lingo - a sad little individual without much real life, you spend your time annoying others over the internet. But being as you are a troll, this commentary is probably going in one ear and out the other - oblivous to the fact!

How about you just leave your acid opinions to yourself?

[RotHeissPfefferStreber]

Oooh. And another one reverts to type

It doesn't take long, does it. Seriously, forget trying to be an ADI - with such a low threshold you'll never survive, even if you make it to be one.

Quite frankly, it is people of your sort who are doing the real damage to the industry. It's dumbing it down way, WAY too much.

Your tiny little mind can't see that what you want here is to be able to say absolutely anything you want about Red - whether you know it to be true or not - but you are opposed to anyone disagreeing to the extent you behave this way when they do (or they get deleted from the Crazy Land Facebook site if the voice an opinion over there).

Let me just say that again using shorter sentences so there's less chance of you missing it:

You want to say whatever you want about Red. But you won't accept anyone saying something different.

But at least you have all those other geniuses over at Facebook (sic)

[RotHeissPfefferStreber]

Hey, and I noticed over in Crazy Land an increasing number of people who have had nothing whatsoever to do with Red or TIC joining up and mouthing off. Typical New Age ADIs, it seems.

When will they learn that the type of person who joins a Facebook page is someone who is already a Facebook member and Facebook addict, not someone who has a genuine complaint about goods or services offered. By implication, a typical Facebook member's opinion is of the typical Facebook nature: in other words, juvenile.

Note the number of pictures or avatars involving people in pubs with their arms round each other, mouths agape, screaming at some unknown jape.

Yep, that's why the industry is being dumbed down

[doctordick]

Huh....? I don't want to be an ADI believe me, and talking about low thresholds....you have to be a dumbass to be one anyway! I'm starting foundation 1 as a doctor in Oct and believe me I will be making 30k...and that's only my first year!

You are a kid though right? Give it the **** up!

[RotHeissPfefferStreber]

Hey, I like that! You're starting Big School next term and you're accusing other people of being kids? Wah-ha-haa

Hey, doc, what do you recommend for strained rib muscles and hernias? I just got one of each laughing at the irony (or is it hypocrisy? Or naivete?) involved here

So you're a fresher who hangs around on forums and - no doubt - Facebook, interfering in things which have nothing to do with you and - I don't doubt for second now you saw fit to raise it - with an over-inflated opinion of your own ability and prospects...?

...Welcome to my world:lol:

[doctordick]

a fresher? I doubt you misunderstand....you only get paid to be a doctor when your practising....not at uni. I'm 23 and about to start a profession....which ADI sure as shit aint!

I stumbled onto this thread and only this thread and seen you were being a pompous arrogant knob so I registered purely to ask you be moralistic and/or nice to your fellow man yet you continue to talk bollocks!

From what you've said you have absolutely nothing to do with this either, slight hypocrisy there mate! In fact your the one who's trawling the net slabbering about it and on facebook (which I've never used).

Over-inflated? I do believe that's jealously - I'll be making a 6 figure salary soon enough.

[RotHeissPfefferStreber]

[Robert Court]

I have had similar problems, not with red but with the AA.

Same sort of promises which cannot be fulfilled. I undertook training from them, fortunately paid by my redundancy. Over the past year, since i passed my part 3, they have been giving me an average of 1 customer every couple of weeks which i think is ridiculous. All that franchise fee for that little work. Iwas simply told that i should also do my own advertising, even though they charged me the full fee ?

For the last couple of months i have joined a a small school called pass and go. The guy has only a hand full of instructors meaning more work is available more often.

My advice to you mate is join a small school, and hire a car , (you can get one for £65.00 p/w). That combined by the franchise fee of the local school, (shouldnt be more then £60) will leave you enough to make it worth working.

Choose a school that does a pay as you go scheme where you pay hourly (my brother in law has joined with pass and go, they charge £28.00 per hour). This way you only pay for what you learn and is a more affordable way. It gives you options basically if you have anything else lined up instead of getting a massive loan

[RotHeissPfefferStreber]

Like most things, it depends.

Work is area dependent... I can assure you that in some of the areas I deal with the likes of AA, BSM, Surepass, and Red have plenty of work to hand out. But I am aware of other areas where getting work is very difficult - and that's for everyone, not just franchisees.

The way I always look at it is if the likes of those big schools can't get much work then its probably going to be difficult for everyone. No one can corner the market, and those who try often cut their lesson prices to attract pupils.

South Wales and parts of the North Midlands (and northwards) are having a real rough time.

Be careful about advising people on definite courses of action... what works for one person often doesn't work for another

[lionhart]

Hi there,
What an excellent hour I have had after coming in from a long shift and reading this forum! I never use forums and ashamed to state this is my first post.
I was recently at a Q&A session for Red after enq online, they have invited me back for an assessment on monday as I am deemed a suitable candidate, along with everyone else in the room who attended. After considering all comments on this post I regret to say I will not be attending.
Although I have to totally agree with the comments from 'RotHeissPfefferStreber' throughout. A stunning performance and have not laughed as much into the wee hours of the morning in a long time. I am ashamed it was at the expense of the poor victims of RED and TIC. But you guys lined them up so often for this fellow to continually shoot you down.
The original post from terry was a formal request for help for a particular court case in a serious sense - although throughout became a sugar coated cry for back up and a 'make me feel better about it campaign'

....and you got bit in the ass.

(just an outsiders comments - i wish you all good health and best of luck with all your cases!)...and thanks for the laughs!

[RotHeissPfefferStreber]

Just to clarify the original posters case... he signed up for a VERY expensive course and didn't tell his wife. All hell broke loose when he go home and then it gets a little hazy.

Cancelling a loan agreement in the cooling off period typically involves a little more than a phone call. It involves forms and evidence of sending etc. - evidence which should be easy to obtain if it really happened that way and the case were so open and shut.

Siding up with The Association Of Village Idiots is not the immediate action one would assume such a person should take.

One has to question the actual story details when they are contrived to be negative towards Red in every aspect. In these cases, if it is so natural to assume the worst against Red and everything they allegedly say and do, is it not logical that some of the claims should be doubted when you realise most of the shouters clearly only have one helix in their DNA?

[jo13]

Hi Terry
Having just read your post, i am more determined to keep pursing my money back from The instructor College, after they keep fobbing me off.
Barclays -who provided the finance are just as bad and offer no help
I feel like i'm in the twlight zone with them, and i never seem to get anywhere, It is so wrong that the money is their main priority, if we'd have taken out the finance ourselves we would'nt be in this position, would we.
I feel as probably you do to, that my life is being held at ransom by these people.
I can't believe they have done this to you, and i wish i'd have found this forum before i got drawn into it to.
I am totally behind you, as any win against this organisation is of benefit to the rest of us.
And hopefully more people will find there way here, safety in numbers!!!
Thanks
Jo

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