[jo1976]

hi thought i would add another scammer,this person repiled to ad i had placed for a rented house,said he had one in manchester then one in preston could not give me the address of the property in preston,the property in manchester was a bookshop,wanted me to send money like every one else to a freind by nothen western or giro bank,told me his daughter deid in child birth,so i could not veiw the house until he had seen prove i could pay,how sick some people are,and there are still trying to get me to send money,the email of this person is ethelpegler@yahoo.com ,ethelpegler@gmail,

[ConLandlordInSmallHeath]

He is known by the name Adam though he is Pakistani

He lives in 67 Bankes rd smallheath Bham B10 9PS

The email he is using now: xander.kage@hotmail.co.uk

His phone: 07528 963 851

This asshole has been making a living out of conning tenants - most of them foreigners. He never gives the deposit back to any of his tenants

for the last 3 or 4 years I 've seen many complaints in this forum but keeps changing his contact details and never put his name in his Ad

He pretents to be working for an agency but it's only him

His current ads : http://birmingham.gumtree.com/birmingham/43/40059743.html

http://birmingham.gumtree.com/birmingham/55/40059955.html

He gets his tenants from this website, so be aware

Now you are warned

Cheers

[Gracelhm]

Hi, has anyone used the property agent Werentflats?
I'm looking at this place in Bloomsbury and they said I could have it in September, provided I hand in a 2 weeks worth of rent (which sounds too little to be true?) as holding deposit and sign a pre-let agreement, which states nothing about the room, the bills, the rent.
Then come back in Sept and sign the real contract, pay the deposit, pay the agent etcetc. I asked the agent to revise the pre-let contract but now he's saying he's got no time for all this and he's busy handling the people who are willing to just pay the deposit.
Also, I can't sign the contract now because apparently they do not know which exact lot they are giving me this Sept, they can only promise me the room of the same size and condition in that stretch of buildings (I've seen the room) They haven't got any credentials on their website and I've not really seen or heard of them around.
Sounds sketchy? Or am I being overly paranoid?

[thak83]

I thought it looked too good to be true.....

i recieved this guys first e-mail and started looking for similarites through google, with the address i got this forum. And with the advert i got another.

Here's the reply from him:

Hello,


First sorry for my late reply, My asking price is 240+100(including all taxes and bills) GBP per mounth and the first payment will be 2 months of rent GBP 680,because the minimum period is 2 months.The flat is very clean and i want to leave the flat to one person clean and responsible tenant.. For me is very hard to come in UK and if i will come i must be 100% sure that I will not come for nothing. As you can see in the photos everything it's new in the flat.I am working in Germany (Berlin) and I am here with my family ... as regards the viewing,i think we could fix a date i come in UK for the viewing and we reach an agreement.The property has a fully furnished kitchen,clean and well tidy sitting rooms,laundry room,and fully furnished with home utilities like:-electric shower, Lounge,Vacuum Cleaner,Toaster, Oven andmicrowave, dryer, iron, washing maching ascooker , refridgetor , dishwahser, powershower, heater, cable ready, tv set and dvd player,internet conection, equiped kitchen and so on.
I await your mail to know is you ar satisfy with the details of my flat give to you as well to know and arrrange for the viewing of the flat and arrange for the neccesary thing that is aslo needed.
PS: NO DEPOSIT
I wait your response.




We are currently located in Berlin,
Deian Broki
Auguststrasse 52
10119 Berlin

[jaydenaa]

BEWARE OF FRANKMAYOR46@YAHOO.CO.UK IS A SCAMMER HE SENT ME FAKE PICS OF A PROPERTY AND THEN ASKED ME TO WIRE 1300 TO HIM IVE JUST TOLD TO GET LOST AND AWAIT HIS REPLY,LOL

[thak83]

just had another e-mail from the wanker:

Hi again,

I work for SBG -Sales Business Germany GmbH and is very hard for me to come in UK. I can't take the risk to leave my new job for days and when I arrive in UK to see that I come for nothing. I want to be 100% sure that when I will meet you, we do the rent papers then i can come back in Germany.Few days ago I was in UK to meet with a client of my flat but when I arrived I called him and no answer,I don`t want to happend me again.I don't want to ask you to send me any money in advance, I just want to see that you are a serious tenant. I will come only for a serious deal. If you don't want to rent it after you will inspect it, no problem, but I need to be sure that you will be there.
So i can be sure of that look how we can do: You make the payment from your name and address to your best friend name and address in UK using MoneyGram for 2 months rent that means 680 GBP and send me the scanned receipt so i can see if the money is available. As soon as I see the scanned receipt that you have made the payment, I will come in UK and you will see the flat and maybe rent it. After that, we will go together at the MoneyGram office and you will take the money back and pay me.So all you have to do is to find a MoneyGram office and wire 680 GBP from your name to your friend name and send the scanned receipt.I am asking you this to be sure that I do not come in UK for nothing. Hope you can understand my situations.Also i will give you the money for the transfer fee when we will meet.(that means 30-40gbp).P.S : As I told you,I have a lot of customers interested to rent the apartment. I will reserve the apartment to the first one that provides me the scanned paper from MoneyGram. I hope to read asap from you,


We are currently located in Berlin,
Deian Broki
Auguststrasse 52
10119 Berlin
Germany

His e-mail address is: deianbroki@googlemail.com

[New2London09]

I posted a wanted ad for an apartment and could not believe every single one that replied to me was a scammer!! Are there no decent people left in the world anymore?? And do they really think we are that stupid???

Examples are as follows:
sent from: josh.spencer51@yahoo.com

My Property is a fully sellf contained flat,it is okay if you are moving into my property in August but i will like you to
do a thing, I guess you will understand this. It's in the policy my Lawyer has told me and i wish
to abide by it. I won't get any money from you now. So you will do a
thing to make me believe you really need the Property.
You will go to the nearest WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER around
you, Send to someone you trust or someone you trust send to you the
sum of 1,050pounds at western union(450 Pounds for house rent and 600
pounds for security deposit ). The money is still within you. I am not
ready to get money from you as i have said. All I need to see is the
western union money transfer copy of receipt giving to you. Scan the
western union receipt and send it as an attachment to my email just
for me to view it and be sure you are ready to get the Property.
after viewing the Property, and if you really like it, You can go
together to the western union location agent or bank around You to
get the 1,050 pounds back and we can reach an agreement on how you will
move into the Property.. I will pay back to you the charges you will
be using in sending the money at western union. If you dont
understand, Here is an examples of how to do it....

SENDERS NAME....................YOUR NAME
RECEIVER' NAME...................THE PERSON YOU SEND TO .
AMOUNT SENT.....................1,050 POUNDS.

and scan the copy of receipt to me in an email just for me to view it.
and then i can pick you up and show you the Property and you can pick
up your money after you have viewed the property,Get back to me.

And another one:
Sent from: molly.swanson49@gmail.com

I need all this information to send to my lawyer so that he can prepare the
Lease tenancy contract so i can send to you for you to go through the terms and
conditions as regards living in my Apartment.And as soon as you agree with the
terms and conditions of living in my apartment you be will making Security
deposit and a month rent to my lawyer so that i can be positive about your
reservation.And he 'll issued an acknowledgment receipt of the payment which
serves as you've reserved the room as your room to move in when you get to
London,if there is anything you don't get right,we can chat on msn,you can add
me to molly.swanson01@hotmail.com so that we can get to talk more better.

Good luck to us all who are looking for accomodation )

[manzanita]

Just to add another to this list:

saradilek@hotmail.com

Offering me a room to rent in 27a, Barnsbury Street, Islington, London, Greater London, N1 1PW.

I know it's a scam because funnily enough she emailed me earlier in the year under the guise of Lucie Vinze with the same pictures but this time they were for a house in NW London near Northwick Park Hospital! It must have wheels!

I think Lucie Vinze is probably long gone by now as an alias, but her story was she lives in Birmingham and works in fashion and spends a lot of time in New York. Parents have moved to Spain and she's been left with the house and just hates to see it unlived in and getting dirty. How does an unlived in house get dirty huh?! Needs proof before coming to show me the flat... you know the drill.

I admit, I nearly fell for it, because I was really needing a place to say, but thankfully logic won out.

[myrthl]

i get a spam under the email adress phipa99@hotmail.com.
searchs a roommate for a flat near oxford centre for 395 pound all inclusives per month. aswell with the western union account.

[manzanita]

Emailing under levivian004@hotmail.com and princessvivian004@gmail.com and offering a flatshare at 43 Lisle Street, Westminster, London WC4H 9BE (CENTRAL LONDON) for £380pcm. Address doesn't even come up on google. She is probably spamming anyone looking as my ad is for East London so if she was genuine, she wouldn't be messaging.

No mention of Moneygram or WU yet, but wants me to reply so she can proceed in my rent. Her English is decidedly broken in places for a native speaker - she's born in Australia - and just an odd email overall.

[manzanita]

[ozma83]

I just saw an ad for a flat and called the number, it is a private landlord and he told me he lives in a different part of london so he is quite happy to come show it to me but after the showing he will need a definite answer and if we say yes we have to give him a week's rent as a holding deposit, which is NOT refundable in case the references are not ok.

Don't feel confortable with this to be honest...giving money to someone who I have seen only once, and with no agency behind it.. opinions?

[Dodo12]

Hi, I hope you have not agreed to this. I used to rent from this agency and they are real liars. Do NOT believe a word what they say about the flat as they will say things that you want to hear and you will found out this only once you have signed. If you decided to go ahead, have the pre-letting contract to state EVERYTHING in smallest detail. And be aware that they will keep your deposit if you fail your credit check. And they fail to quote you that their prices do not include VAT, you will find this out only after you have already paid your deposit and there will be other additional charges. The 3rd party "impartial inventory" that you must pay is actually conducted by someone who seem to have the same address as the agency itself, funny ha?



[quote="Gracelhm"]Hi, has anyone used the property agent Werentflats?
I'm looking at this place in Bloomsbury and they said I could have it in September, provided I hand in a 2 weeks worth of rent (which sounds too little to be true?) as holding deposit and sign a pre-let agreement, which states nothing about the room, the bills, the rent.
Then come back in Sept and sign the real contract, pay the deposit, pay the agent etcetc. I asked the agent to revise the pre-let contract but now he's saying he's got no time for all this and he's busy handling the people who are willing to just pay the deposit.
Also, I can't sign the contract now because apparently they do not know which exact lot they are giving me this Sept, they can only promise me the room of the same size and condition in that stretch of buildings (I've seen the room) They haven't got any credentials on their website and I've not really seen or heard of them around.
Sounds sketchy? Or am I being overly paranoid?[/quote]

[manzanita]

Personally, I'd say that if you feel uncomfortable with it, there's probably a very good reason. If your gut instinct is saying "walk away" then I'd follow that.

If it is too good to be true, it probably is sadly.

[BristolKitten]

check my profile

[ConLandlordInSmallHeath]

That ass hole from SmallHeath has just changed his contact details to keep new tenants guessing:

Post code : B109PS
SmallHeath - Bankes Rd and surrounding

If you are interested you could contact me on (07786 85 95 95) or you could email me on (yousuf1969@hotmail.co.uk)

[m-star]

here's another one;

a woman who advertised a two bedroom flat in west kensington for 200 pop a week.
yes, it's a fact: if it sounds too good to be true, then it probably is.

her email adres is elizerbethy_09@yahoo.com, she is definately foreign (no offense but her spelling and grammer could do with a bit of freshing up),
and lo and behold after three emails back and fort she wanted money send by moneygram before we could go and view the flat.

be aware!! she emailed us saying she also has a flat for rent in chelsea;
Radnor Walk,Chelsea,London SW3 4BP

she signs the emails with "Regards
Mr & Mrs Elizerbet"
so be aware!!

also, the ad we responded to this afternoon has already magically disappeared and we haven't even seen it... go figure!!

[m-star]

and it gets even better - she just sent us a so-called certificate to say she's officially registered as a landlord...
with a picture of Charlotte York from Sex and the City on it!!!!!
how stupid do people think you are!?

[missnjones]

If you are a landlord please be aware of fake tenants. I was the victim of a possible tenant fortunately I realised before I lost money. But I did receive 3 months of nasty untraceable phone calls.

Here's to all of us geniune renters and landlords finding what we're looking for.

[ravichander1980]

This appears to be a scam advertisement based on the communication I had with the advertiser (advertisement Number: 40667624).

-----------------
He wrote:

Hello, My name is Pastor Ramsey Noah, to start with, I just want you to know that every description about the apartment is true. Its 2nd floor flat, in a tree lined terrace minutes from Princes Street, Edinburgh. (Gas Central Heating & Free parking nearby)...

Yours Faithfully.
Pastor Ramsey Noah
--------------

I wrote:

Hi,
Thanks for the mail.
When is the flat available from? Could I come for viewing?

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He wrote:

The flat is currently empty and about viewing of the flat, I am a missionary on mission to Africa from Edinburgh, Scotland. I don't happen to be in Edinburgh at the moment, I'm really sorry for the inconvenient but I asure you that the flat is fully furnished and in good condition. Please if u have any other information u will love to know about the flat please do let me know.

Yours Faithfully
Pastor Ramsey Noah

-------------------

I wrote:

Thank you for the mail.
I would like to move into the flat with my wife from mid July or so for a 6 month contract, if that is fine with you.

Could you please give me the following info..
1) The address of the flat.
2) Deposit amount.
3) The procedure to move in (who will give me the keys, contract etc)

If we have the basic furnishing, it is sufficient for us.

Thank you.

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He wrote:

Yes the apartment is fully furnished and i accept that you will be moving in from the mid of July with your wife for a 6 month contract

You will need to get back to me with the rent application form below.

FullName---------------
Full Address ----------
Phone number--------
City-----------------------
State----------------------
zipcode-------------------
Occupation-------------
Age------------------------
Sex------------------------
Religion------------------
email Address---------
Fax Number------------
marriage Status-------
Picture If Available----
How many months deposit you will be paying for--------------------



And Let me Know How many Month or Years You are Willing to Rent my Apartment--


We really need a Good Decent Person for The Flat and I Hope you are Decent And Respectfully Person, If you are interested,get back to me with the Information Above as soon as possible.

These are the answers to your questions below.

Could you please give me the following info..
1) The address of the flat.--(5 Atholl Crescent Lane, Edinburgh EH3 8ET, Scotland , United Kingdom)
2) Deposit amount.--(Fisrt month deposit fee--250POUNDS)
3) The procedure to move in (who will give me the keys, contract etc)--(The keys and doucmets will be delivery to you wia a courier service agent at your door step one payment is confirmed)

So get back to me with the rent application form above so that i can get them registered for the shippment of the keys and documents to you and that i may also forward you my lawyer's information that you will be using to make the first month deposit fee via Western Union.

Thanks And God Bless You

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[manzanita]

Well, you've got certain magic words in there: Western, Union and Africa! It's a scam...

[ConLandlordInSmallHeath]

How can somebody read all these messages to find out who is the con landlord?

Gumtree are piss takers : they don't care who is spamming and who is scamming: I know many poor poor get robbed of their money because of this website. Even when you report an ad they don't care. traffic and more clicks is their only concern

[montyzuma]

they are con as soon as they mention western union. as is anyone wanting to sell or buy via western union.

[lamartxosa]

I think these websides are also scam. Because they wrote at the end of the webside the same address that they gave me to make a transfer from another webside. If you check in internet the address the house is so old and doggy. They are SCAM

http://www.londonapartmentservice.co.uk/basils-apartments-london.htm

http://www.lfca.co.uk/

[andokai]