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Fay_S
Joined: 25 Jun 2009
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 Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:53 pm Post subject: Work Trials |
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Hi
Just wondered if anyone's done work trials through the Job centre?
I've been looking for work for a whle now and the Job centre have suggested work trials as a way to get into a job I've not done before.
They said you basically work for free for up to 15 days. 15 days work on the same money from the Job centre that I would have got anyway?
I can see the benefits of showing a future employer that I am capable of doing the job but somehow I can't help thinking it's a bit of a piss take.
Don't employers just take someone on for those 3 weeks and then drop you?
What if I only want to do 2 or 3 days. I think that would be long enough to show my capabilities and for them to decide if I'd fit in with their team.
What do you think? |
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Lunatic
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| Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Work Trials |
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| Fay_S wrote: | Hi
Just wondered if anyone's done work trials through the Job centre?
I've been looking for work for a whle now and the Job centre have suggested work trials as a way to get into a job I've not done before.
They said you basically work for free for up to 15 days. 15 days work on the same money from the Job centre that I would have got anyway?
I can see the benefits of showing a future employer that I am capable of doing the job but somehow I can't help thinking it's a bit of a piss take.
Don't employers just take someone on for those 3 weeks and then drop you?
What if I only want to do 2 or 3 days. I think that would be long enough to show my capabilities and for them to decide if I'd fit in with their team.
What do you think? |
i agree.
i think that a week would be just enough to show your attitude and skills... |
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Fay_S
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All these unemployed people and none of you have done a work trial?
The jobcentre more or less told me I'd have to - now I have been out of work for more than 13 weeks. I have to sign on weekly instead of fortnightly too.
I have an interview tomorrow which is my signing on day and I told the jobcentre advisor I was worried I might miss my signing time so could she change it for an hour or so later just in case. She looked at me really suspiciously and asked if I had proof of the interview!!!!!!!!!
I hate this country sometimes and I'm British born and bred. |
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City Plumber
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Personally I'm against free work trials. Employers should pay a fair days pay for a fair days work. The system is likely to be abused by certain employers. But on the other hand some people are being just a little bit to fussy about what they will or wont do for work... There is also the factor that once you are on benefits you get into a routine of not working and dependent on the benefit system long term... Just ask Mr D Essex  |
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only one essex
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| City Plumber wrote: | | Personally I'm against free work trials. Employers should pay a fair days pay for a fair days work. The system is likely to be abused by certain employers. But on the other hand some people are being just a little bit to fussy about what they will or wont do for work... There is also the factor that once you are on benefits you get into a routine of not working and dependent on the benefit system long term... Just ask Mr D Essex |
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pestal
Joined: 24 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:10 am Post subject: Work trials |
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| Fay_S wrote: | All these unemployed people and none of you have done a work trial?
The jobcentre more or less told me I'd have to - now I have been out of work for more than 13 weeks. I have to sign on weekly instead of fortnightly too.
I have an interview tomorrow which is my signing on day and I told the jobcentre advisor I was worried I might miss my signing time so could she change it for an hour or so later just in case. She looked at me really suspiciously and asked if I had proof of the interview!!!!!!!!!
I hate this country sometimes and I'm British born and bred. |
I do understand how you feel. I recently became unemployed and I find jobcentreplus extemely unhelpful and actually getting in the way of my getting a job.
I have to spend hours travelling, queing up and waiting for the interview when signing on while I could be do looking for a job and preparing for interviews instead. Their website and jobs advertised on job points were designed to make it as difficult and inconvenient to apply for a job as possible. Who has time to call those numbers, charged expensively by mobile phone operators, just to find out how to apply? Only someone who is not really devoting their time to looking for a job and only applies for 1 job a week just for the records and so they can continue claiming. Why can't they just provide proper email addresses to which you can send your CV or application like all job search sites do.
Their staff are poorly trained and don't even speak English, so there is a massive communication problem. They are so unprofessional too.
You can't even access any training that would help you get a job.
The whole thing was created to waste taxpayer's money and not to get anyone any jobs so they can keep us poor, obedient, and cattlelike.
I never heard of those work trials and it sounds like an outrageous thing. It's slavery. There is already a probationery period during which the employer can get rid of you quickly and easily if you are not suited for the job. It's a disgrace, whoever came up with that idea is very irreversibly retarded and irresponsible.
15 days is an incredibly long period to check if you can do the job. Noone should be working for free. It's abuse. What a waste of time. You could be looking for a job or going to interviews rather than be doing that crap which is very likely to end up by your being chucked out at the end of it.
Don't do it, look for a decent place instead that isn't that much into slave driving.
Unqualifed, inbread, thick bastards that couldn't come up with anything more or less sane. What a waste of our money. All those jobcentreplus inbred-run disgraceful dumps need to be closed down as their sole purpose is to help those who are there to abuse the system and prevent those who actually are seeking work from finding it. All of this is done for the reasons mentioned above as well as to show that the goverment is doing something to tackle unemployment... NOT.
To those of you who are about to scream that we are wasting their money and living off them while not working and claiming. Excuse me??? I have not been paid anything at all as I am not entitled to it because I left my work voluntarily, and though I had valid reasons for it such as sexual harassment, bullying, almost physical abuse, colleagues with mental health issues and violent behaviour, and lack of even basic health & safety standards and so on, which I cannot communicate to jobcentre as they'll be doing the checks with the employer, and if they do, I won't get a good reference from the employer, I am not entitled to any money. So please before you scream that please take into consideration that although I had worked all my life and never claimed anything before and paid tens of thousands in NI contributions and taxes, now that I am in trouble, I am not getting any of the money I contributed towards my benefit.
Yes, there are people who abuse the system, but they are a minority. Benefits are so small that it's not worth to choose to live off them rather than work, unless you are an asylum seeker with 12 kids and 4 wives not going and never intended to work anyway and for whom getting a tiny benefit and living in a council accommodation is a huge step up from living in a slum and working for a bowl of rice once a week in their home country.
Those British people who are on benefits by choice because they don't want to work on principle would be wasting taxpapyers' money anyway by being homeless, getting arrested and jailed for crime (if you don't want to work and have no money to live on you are very likely to turn to criminal activites), being unhealthy, addicted to drugs and alchohol, and so on, and so forth.
So stop moaning, those smarty pants who think they are feeding us and get a life. We are a rich, developed country which is meant to have social security and help its poor and less fortunate. It's not happening at the moment. The only people who benefit are those who are here to blow us up and convert this country to islam (not saying sharial law as it's happened already - noone even noticed, or objected much). |
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anita.patt
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:34 am Post subject: |
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Hi Everyone!
I am not very familiar with free work trials for office goers ... but have heard about internship or training period where you would be paid a very meagre rate for your travel and food I think. They will then take you on rolls if you qualify for the job and pay you well ... However working for non-paid trial for a day or two is a common sight for work-from-opportunities. I have never heard of 15 days non-paid trial for office goers!!!!
Hope it helps  . |
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Fay_S
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| I wonder if it's something that is only currently offered in my area? A trial for work trials! |
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