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anybody know anythink about this company seem to be taken on people for sales and marketing jobs

[jonnyoneye]

My daughter worked for them for a while.
Very, very long hours and hard work for very, very little pay.
Lots and lots of promises of endless riches and the possibility of retiring in a few years, etc, etc, but the only one who will get rich is the owner !
Strangely enough, she enjoyed the work and the people there, but it has proved to be a complete waste of time i'm afraid.
Good luck.

[nickora]

I have a friend who was the same, she really enjoyed working for them but made no money at all, im really surprised anyone could enjoy the type of sales involved tho.

[naomi_gary]

[jonnyoneye]

Hi Naomi,
When my daughter worked for them, she was cold calling to houses all over South Wales, trying to get householders to sign up for a monthly Direct Debit donation to the NSPCC.
I'm not sure on the amounts involved, but i think that it was trying to get punters to sign to pay about £7.50 a month for 13 months, for which she would get paid £25.
They targetted the poorer areas on any town that they were bussed to, as it was considered a waste of time knocking doors in the better areas, because people there would be too 'clued up' to sign the Direct Debit mandate.
They were all 'hyped up' at a morning meeting at about 10am and then bussed or had to catch public transport to which ever area they were all to descend on. They all went as a big group, but were given lists of houses on individual streets and had to tick them off as they called. They did this alone and in ALL weathers.
They all did this until about 8 pm, when they would try and catch people in at addresses that they had not managed to get an answer from and would finish at around 9.
After this, they would have to rerturn to the office in Cardiff and have a further meeting, where they would discuss the day and what they had sold.
My daughter managed to get two signed up on only one day out of 6 months or so and managed to earn £125 on one week only. Usually it was £25 or £0 per week.
She has gained confidence from the experience of 'cold calling' and speaking to people, but made no money for very long hours and on one occasion had a knife pulled on her by a guy in a council house.
Apart from the confidence gained, it was a complete waste of 6 moths, so please be warned. They will offer you endless riches and all sorts of success stories, but they are unachievable by virtually everyone.
I hope that this helps.
John.

[yesterday1]

As it's only commision based they have nothing lose,Arcedia that is, they could hire 1,000 people tommorow and if 500 left the next week there would be another 500 who could start-up again. Your not classed as employed, so you have no rights and to be honest you could work with NSPCC or any charity yourself and do this type of work and earn more or the same without the BS of endless riches, cult type company meetings.

http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/investigations/2009/10/our-reporter-jonny-ocallaghans.html#more

[jonnyoneye]

[ it was a complete waste of 6 moths]

I wish to make it clear, that no living animals, insects or birds were injured or hurt in any way and i have the highest regard for Moths and would not hurt one for the World.

I hope that has cleared that one up !!

As for your reply 'yesterday1', i'm glad that you mentioned the Mirror investigation. I had seen it a month or so back, but didn't want to mention it as i didn't know where to find it, so top marks boyo ! Hopefully Maomi and others will see sense look for a 'proper' job now.

[legitimate1]

Ok. Listen up.

I've worked for Arcedia in the past. I was there about 6 months and have to say it was the best opportunity i have ever had.

It's a direct sales company aka door-to-door.

There are 2/3 different divisions. One of them not being NSPCC anymore.

You start at 12. Have an hour of training and go off and have lunch together i na group. You then travel to various locations across South Wales and start at 2:00-2:30.

You are self employed meaning you break whenever you like.

If you sign someone up, you get £35 a sale.

There is usually a group break at 5:00 for half an hour, usually back at the car or at a shop or local cafe for a quick non-alcoholic drink.

You then continue until 8:00-8:30 and return back to the office.

There is a lively meeting discussing the days progress, its all fun and banter.

Then you are free to leave at 9:30 or sooner if you need to go.

Saturdays are optional but a handy day to get some extra sales if you had a bad week.

The opportunity that you have is amazing. Hit your sales criteria and you get promotion. You are then a trainee manager and you can hire staff to teach yourself.

You don't pay for their travel or food like someone previously mentioned.

Promote them and you get an extra promotion yourself and when you are assistant manager; your sales earn you £50 and you get money from what your "crew" earned.

Once you have enough people and are doing 100 sales as a collective group, you get promoted to a full branch manger, being taught administration and HR.

You then go to a location of your choice in the UK and get given an office for FREE. You then start hiring and earn money off everyones sales, meaning you don't have to work anymore.

I've witnessed this myself.

It's hard work, but if you're willing to do it then it takes anything between 4 months and 1 year to gain full promotion to your own office.

Everyone is there to help, its fun, lively and relaxed.

The only reason i'm not there now is because it wasn't suited for me personally.

You can work a 9-5 job and earn your basic wage of £50 but are you truly happy??

Be your own boss here and you can earn £100 in one day.

Work that bit harder and you the earnings are endless.

Seriously, try it, it's brilliant

[yesterday1]

Nice positive spin there

Let's face it, all this crap about area manager, office manager, CEO, Chairman , Head of Mergers & Aquisition for Arcedia Global Entrprise PLC, all these title's mean nothing.

You are just a sale's company earning commission working with a host of charities.

So you will pay £35 to the self-employed canvasser for signing up a member of the public to a direct-debit of £2 a week. I can go directly to a similar animal welfare charity and earn £25 per referral for signing up someone for £2 a month.

So what would be my sale's ratio if I did this myself as oposed to working with you guys, apart from the money I despise companies like yourself who are in effect parasite's who prey on people looking for work. The self-employed status only benefit's your company as the worker has no right's.

How about this, I'm off to the casino tonight, come and join me it's great. Most day's I double my initial outlay but then i sometime's don't make any money and do lose some.

[jonnyoneye]

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'The only reason i'm not there now is because it wasn't suited for me personally.'


Why exactly ?

Possibly, in the real World, you didn't like the endless footslogging for very, very little return.
My advice to youngsters, is to get yourself some training, Plumber and Electrician come to mind. Both can be done by either sex and all the good ones are still inundated with work, with £3-400 a day fairly easily achievable.
Sadly i didn't go down this route, but wish i had, but it's probably a bit late in life to be trying to learn it all now.
If youngsters (and others), wish to give companies like Arcedia a try, then they should do so, but very, very, very few will make any decent money and if they do it will be for some very, very, very hard work. Try Plumbing, Electrical work, or in fact anything else that will give you something to fall back on in later years, because with companies like Arcedia you will be burnt out and skint before the first year is up....just like our Pro Arcedia corespondent, Legitimate1 !

[jonnyoneye]

One other point.

When my daughter told me that after the initial 3 months she would be considered 'Self Employed', i asked her what she was considered as at that point in time. She told me that she didn't really exist and that she was not on 'Employed' staus with Arcedia.

This opens up another point.

What would happen if someone working for Arcedia (but not 'employed' or 'self employed'), had an accident ? What a bun fight would ensue then !
Of course, once the person was put on a 'self employed' basis, they would be liable for covering themselves for Public Liability insurance and once they got to be a 'Supervisor' of others, presumably they would also require Employers Insurance cover.

Sounds daft, but if for instance a 'self employed' Arcedia worker stumbled as they were walking and landed on top of a young child, causing serious injury, they would be liable for any damages that might be claimed against them.

With no insurance cover, they would be taken to the cleaners and you can be damn sure that Arcedia would not come to their aid !

Beware of things that sound to good to be true....they ususlly are !!

[Edgas]

Are Arcedia affiliates of Cobra like Progressive Global?.

All these marketing companies are the same rip off.When trainning they take you to a room full of fake, made up cheques that the suposed company has been awarded .Such as 'Business of the year'. I cant quite see how they can expect you to believe these things , when they lie to you from the start about the hours you will be working and wages you will be earning.

They also have the gall to skim some of your wages for sales and stick them in an 'overhead fund', which is apparently to cover if a customer cancels. But of-course you will never know whether they do or not so chances of getting this money back is very slim!.

To top it all you are self employed.So are not entitled to holiday pay or sick pay and are taxed more.