[notsmart]

People people chill your all getting a bit emotional, especially that bloke who's been on to the inland revenue, what a nob! Mate people like you and me pay taxes for them to go and look for tax evaders, so let them do there job they take enough of our money they, can get by without your help. as far as tax evasion is concerned, if the inland revenue sorted its act out then yeah i would have a problem with you guys not paying it but at the moment its a disorganized, shit system and the money is usually wasted on absolute crap like saving a whale that stupidly swam up a river or a giant fuck off tent for the millennium. peace! :D

[give him a break]

Give him a break. It sounds like he has been working hard to achieving a better job in the future, yet is at a position in his life where he needs to survive. When we are talking about survival, paying tax is nobody's main concern! On the other hand, you can still pay tax when you get cash in hand, especially when you are self-employed. He was simply looking for some help and not for all the gruesome responses, threats, fuck offs and whatver else you people have provided him with. You tell him to get off Gumtree and get out there, but what are all of you doing here?????????

Sometimes we need help and that is ultimately what a forum can be used for.

[Guest]

Cash in hand jobs: LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU GET A GOOD RESPONSE

[Guest300]

I disagree that the forum is just about helping individual people by offering advice to them on on the single issue that they raise – it’s for debate. The subtext of this debate is about the implications and consequences of evading taxes in the country that is hosting the visitor, not just about one sob story from someone on their uppers.

It’s legitimate to debate the wider context of that particular post about how to get cash in hand work. It’s made interesting because there is a mixture of responses – some boasting that they are heroic non-tax payers and others who are very sensitive to economic migrants. It remains to be seen how long the Gumtree is willing to risk its reputation by facilitating this kind of employment.

Other authors on this thread have justified the non-payment of taxes for spurious reasons because they don’t like how it is spent (stranded whales..), that using the NHS actually makes you sicker or admitted that they also can’t see the point of other expenses, such as car tax, etc.

So is there is a whole community out there aiming for an easy 20-25% increase in their income from not paying tax, national insurance contributions, council tax and so on? And is this compounded by their failure to contribute in other ways? And is there an impact on the infrastructure and services of the city because non-paying visitors benefit from them but don’t put anything back?

[Jaclyn]

Mystery shopping/consumer studies pay well, but you have to find the good agencys offering work, some agencies charge a joining fee, theres an approved independent body which offers a list of the agencies who do not try to con you-cant remember their name. I cant list the agencies im with for advertising reasons but last week I earned £90 for 5 hours of just answering questions on products I use!!!!!

Search and you will find

[jamiewu32]

why not ?

[Jenna24]

Thing is most cash in hand jobs are very badly paid. When i was 15 i worked (7 years ago now) for a market stall for 2 years and got 2pounds 50 an hour and i didnt even earn enough to pay tax. So i wouldn't count on much. Regards tax i think this country goes overboard with it. Someone where i work worked 500 hours last month and got £1046 after about 600 pounds tax. It doesnt work to do over time as you get taxed so much. I did 400 hours a few months ago before starting my masters and only got £900 pounds after tax for a lot of hard work. (retail company this is) I dont blame people for wanted to do 2 part time jobs.

[bigboss]

[Miller]

Hi Guest if you think taxes are high over here maybe you should look abroad to European Countries where the taxes are much higher and getting your money back from the tax office is really challenging.

[racingtopman]

All gambling is tax free and cash in hand!!!!!!!!!

Bookmakers offer free bets too.............

[Jnny5]

Just a question... if you did get paid cash in hand or as a contractor... how would the powers that be be able to track you....? NH no, acc details?
Would be rather risky...!!

[Bluey]

I think the powers that be probably rely on disgruntled employees snitching on companies that hack them off with low pay - there is a unit set up by Her Majesties Customs and Excise to look into reports of low pay.

The HMCE has a tax evasion hotline. Tax inspectors i imagine, like benefit fraud people, have the skills and power to investigate bank accounts and assets. This is why some benefit claimants are called to task - a quick examination of the title deeds of the property show that they own it and aren't tenants entitled to housing benefit for example.

Registered businesses are subject to random audits of their books. You'd think a good tax inspector would be able to detect fraud and the usual ploys to limit.

When employers seek to launder their cash money (as they can't pay in large wads into a bank without arousing suspicion), they normally clean it up by buying cars, businesses and other assets and then sell them. So there's usually an audit trail of these activities - no discernible funds to make a purchase followed by an electronic transfer into an account when sold.

[Jnny5]

Cheers for that... that seems to be how they would track the company..... howabouts in terms of the person getting paid and not paying tax?

[Bluey]

small fry - not sure that the powers that be have the time and resources to identify much of this and I don't know how they'd manage it.

it's probably more the case that those who need/want cash in hand jobs are already on benefits or are not entitled to work (no work permit) so probably get caught out that way. just an assumption, I don't really know.

[aussie.singer]

Who are you to question this persons motives

[Bluey]

[Rrr]

Im also looking for a cash in hand job not to dodge tax but because I need to eat. I'm currently interviewing for jobs and should have one by this time next week.

I've posted an ad on the jobs wanted section and had some good response, you might like to try that

Good luck

[englishman]

[aussie.singer]

Get off your horse, with the amount you write on these forums I doubt that you even have a job

[mcham45]

[Bluey]

[mcham45]

[Bluey]

John Prescott receives a salary (taxed presumably) and perks, including free accommodation and transport like many other politicians of a similar level paid for by the British Taxpayer (i.e. those who don't work cash in hand).

I believe that the reason why they pay politicians (voted in by their constituents) is that the UK got a better handle on how to operate as a democracy and it lessens the type of corruption we see in other countries (also runs counters the historic background where people bought their titles with their wealth and then made laws that suited them rather than the public). He is publicly accountable.

Renumeration for politicians is a different debate entirely and is not relevant to this thread.

I'm being constructive in my remarks by raising the effect of tax evasion on society because all public services (including the Government) require to be financed through taxes, at both the individual and employer level.

Cash in hand jobs benefit the individual who are encouraged to remain in the country as economic migrants when they are not entitled and encourage UK/EU applicants claim state benefits in tandem with their undeclared income.

Cash in hand work encourages crime. It doesn't benefit those who are exploited by employers who may also merrily breach health and safety regulations as well as those on pay. They don't benefit the nation on a collective level.

You can bring down the debate to the individual circumstances of a single person to try and justify why they shouldn't contribute to society but collectively, the impact of tax evasion on communities and the nation is large.

[mcham45]

[mcham45]