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 Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:36 am Post subject: This is a very serious question regarding rape |
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| Say two years ago as a woman you got raped by someone and then left the country and moved on with your life, then you get contacted by the police to tell you that DNA evidence has been matched up to 12 other woman who have been attacked and they want your cooperation and you just want to get on with your life, what would you do. It will mean court everything and reliving what happened, please only serious answers, thanks |
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Farnarkler2
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A serious answer? Ok, I'd get together with those other 12 women and have the offender found and removed to somewhere remote. There you would all take turns to remove fingers and toes with bolt cutters, using hot wax to seal the wounds. You would then remove his senses ie sealant in the ears, removal of the tongue and supergluing of the nostrils.
The offender would then have his spinal cord severed so he has to live the rest of his life a a quadraplegic.
Too much or a justified punishment??? |
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Misanthropic_MeL
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| Farnarkler2 wrote: | A serious answer? Ok, I'd get together with those other 12 women and have the offender found and removed to somewhere remote. There you would all take turns to remove fingers and toes with bolt cutters, using hot wax to seal the wounds. You would then remove his senses ie sealant in the ears, removal of the tongue and supergluing of the nostrils.
The offender would then have his spinal cord severed so he has to live the rest of his life a a quadraplegic.
Too much or a justified punishment??? |
Sounds good to me... |
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Farnarkler2
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Do you think I'd make a good justice minister?  |
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Misanthropic_MeL
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Farnarkler2 wrote: | | Do you think I'd make a good justice minister? |
You'd make a good Punishment Minister  |
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Farnarkler2
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| Oh I have some great ideas. Some stolen from the Japanese, some from the Koreans and others from various cultures. |
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Misanthropic_MeL
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| Farnarkler2 wrote: | | Oh I have some great ideas. Some stolen from the Japanese, some from the Koreans and others from various cultures. |
You do some light reading in your spare time, don't you?  |
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Farnarkler2
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My best idea is to set up a group who would arrive in an area being terrorised by young (or old) thugs, take one or two of the ringleaders away, cut off their hands, blind them, castrate them (so their DNA can't pollute society) and brand their crimes into their foreheads.
Then they'd be let back and be a walking warning for the rest of their scumbag mates. |
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Misanthropic_MeL
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Maybe you could round up a few like minded individuals and start such a covert group 
Any new type of Robin Hood!
The common people would love you! |
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Misanthropic_MeL
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| Misanthropic_MeL wrote: | Maybe you could round up a few like minded individuals and start such a covert group
A new type of Robin Hood!
The common people would love you! |
Could your first task be to coerce Gumtree Admin for an Edit button?!  |
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Farnarkler2
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Could do. I'm sure there are a few ex military gentlemen who would quite enjoy it. The government does fuck all so the shits get away with it.
A bit of torture and permanent damage would 'dissuade' them from being so wayward in future.
the do-gooders would say it's so evil but then so is terrorising vulnerable neighbourhoods. |
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Panda Bear
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| Up to you, I would say dont feel pressured. If you think it will adversely affect you mentally then dont, but then again it may help you long term if you did confront it again. Be strong, it's all in the mind. |
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TodayIsTheDay
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:02 pm Post subject: Re: This is a very serious question regarding rape |
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| unknown to anyone wrote: | | Say two years ago as a woman you got raped by someone and then left the country and moved on with your life, then you get contacted by the police to tell you that DNA evidence has been matched up to 12 other woman who have been attacked and they want your cooperation and you just want to get on with your life, what would you do. It will mean court everything and reliving what happened, please only serious answers, thanks |
who raped you? |
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ammie
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: This is a very serious question regarding rape |
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| unknown to anyone wrote: | | Say two years ago as a woman you got raped by someone and then left the country and moved on with your life, then you get contacted by the police to tell you that DNA evidence has been matched up to 12 other woman who have been attacked and they want your cooperation and you just want to get on with your life, what would you do. It will mean court everything and reliving what happened, please only serious answers, thanks |
I think this is something only you can answer, people can tell you they would do this or that, but ultimately it has to be your decision.
I would think of it this way, even though you may think you have moved on with your life, isn't there a part of you that wants this ooops who raped you locked away?
If you can help get this man off the streets, that has to be a good thing right?
On the other hand, no one would blame you for not wanting to re live the horror of the rape.
Good luck with what ever choice you make sweetie. |
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eVISCor8
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: This is a very serious question regarding rape |
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| ammie wrote: | | unknown to anyone wrote: | | Say two years ago as a woman you got raped by someone and then left the country and moved on with your life, then you get contacted by the police to tell you that DNA evidence has been matched up to 12 other woman who have been attacked and they want your cooperation and you just want to get on with your life, what would you do. It will mean court everything and reliving what happened, please only serious answers, thanks |
I think this is something only you can answer, people can tell you they would do this or that, but ultimately it has to be your decision.
I would think of it this way, even though you may think you have moved on with your life, isn't there a part of you that wants this ooops who raped you locked away?
If you can help get this man off the streets, that has to be a good thing right?
On the other hand, no one would blame you for not wanting to re live the horror of the rape.
Good luck with what ever choice you make sweetie. |
Ammie's views seem sound.
If you believe the others are providing enough evidence for a conviction and your's will not tip the balance, leave it to them. |
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Ceejayo
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| Farnarkler2 wrote: | Could do. I'm sure there are a few ex military gentlemen who would quite enjoy it. The government does fuck all so the shits get away with it.
A bit of torture and permanent damage would 'dissuade' them from being so wayward in future.
the do-gooders would say it's so evil but then so is terrorising vulnerable neighbourhoods. |
Hi Farny, I definitely agree that your suggestion would be a worthwhile use of the less technically proficient military members. How easy would it be for a couple of squaddies trained in CQC, to put the fear of a seriously good kicking into these little shits who are trying to take over our streets? |
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Farnarkler2
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It's a disgrace, particularly to the old that these vile wastes of DNA rule the streets. Forget putting UK squaddies into action, what this place needs is a good dose of ex Stasi, Spetsnaz (if one can entice them away from being Russian mafia bodyguards) and South African police to clean the place up using my methods of 'dissuasion'.
Other EU countries that I've visited don't have this problem so why do we??
One problem is this country hasn't had a war to get rid of the undesirables. WW1 and WW2 had the scum joining up and getting turned into pulp, particularly in WW1. Also the fact that the police command no respect anymore means that the young scum get away with whatever they want and they know there'll be no retribution.
Another problem is we have a really, really weak government which is too scared (of the human rights activists) to take the problem by the throat and crush it completely.
My psyops would ensure they would behave like angels for the rest of their lives. |
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angel3
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: This is a very serious question regarding rape |
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| unknown to anyone wrote: | | Say two years ago as a woman you got raped by someone and then left the country and moved on with your life, then you get contacted by the police to tell you that DNA evidence has been matched up to 12 other woman who have been attacked and they want your cooperation and you just want to get on with your life, what would you do. It will mean court everything and reliving what happened, please only serious answers, thanks |
Can you afford the upheaval in your life? If the reward of putting this man away means more to you than uprooting yourself once again then I'd say go for it. Long term you might get some real satisfaction and a sense of justice having been done with you being instrumental in it.
On the other hand - you've already been through a lot of shit and why would you want to face it all again? Ask yourself honestly if you have healed after all that. If not, then maybe meeting up with other women and seeing you're not alone might help.
I think on balance, if you can face it, you stand to gain quite a lot.
I wish you the very best of luck - whatever you decide. |
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Vibrance
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: This is a very serious question regarding rape |
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| unknown to anyone wrote: | | Say two years ago as a woman you got raped by someone and then left the country and moved on with your life, then you get contacted by the police to tell you that DNA evidence has been matched up to 12 other woman who have been attacked and they want your cooperation and you just want to get on with your life, what would you do. It will mean court everything and reliving what happened, please only serious answers, thanks |
its a very tough decision, one that could have implications (negative and positive) for any choice you make - and unless you are a knower of the future, then you like every woman of rape, will just have to take time out and think long and hard about what would be the best possible outcome for you - forgetting all the emotional guilt/perceived reliance on you for a testimony/family and friends "lets get the bastard"
what was your immediate thought/instinct when this was put to you originally?
focus on what that was and build on it.......
and remember that if there are 12 women testifying then the pressure is off for you to be the one who puts him away
also, if you decide that going to court is the best option for you to heal properly (as all this is about you healing) then ensure that reliving a terrifying experience wont be even more traumatic for you and your healing........as the post rape head numbness may have thawed by the time you reach court and you may be left too exposed with the reality
i dont mean to sound like iam saying dont go to court - im just saying that sometimes healing needs to happen fully before true justice can be served......and that may take time, but you will get justice
good luck |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject: Re: This is a very serious question regarding rape |
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| Vibrance wrote: | | unknown to anyone wrote: | | Say two years ago as a woman you got raped by someone and then left the country and moved on with your life, then you get contacted by the police to tell you that DNA evidence has been matched up to 12 other woman who have been attacked and they want your cooperation and you just want to get on with your life, what would you do. It will mean court everything and reliving what happened, please only serious answers, thanks |
its a very tough decision, one that could have implications (negative and positive) for any choice you make - and unless you are a knower of the future, then you like every woman of rape, will just have to take time out and think long and hard about what would be the best possible outcome for you - forgetting all the emotional guilt/perceived reliance on you for a testimony/family and friends "lets get the bastard"
what was your immediate thought/instinct when this was put to you originally?
focus on what that was and build on it.......
and remember that if there are 12 women testifying then the pressure is off for you to be the one who puts him away
also, if you decide that going to court is the best option for you to heal properly (as all this is about you healing) then ensure that reliving a terrifying experience wont be even more traumatic for you and your healing........as the post rape head numbness may have thawed by the time you reach court and you may be left too exposed with the reality
i dont mean to sound like iam saying dont go to court - im just saying that sometimes healing needs to happen fully before true justice can be served......and that may take time, but you will get justice
good luck |
Thanks for your answer on this question, it is a tough decision and I have thought nothing but it over the last couple of days.
The thing is the fact that so many other woman have been affected is making me angry as well as scared if that makes any sense. This person was horrific in what he did and did worse to some others and part of me just wants to get him locked up and have the satisfaction of seeing that as although I thought I was over it the mention of it again to me has got me reeling with anger and all sorts of emotions. I am 50/50 at the moment but he is already ruining my life again just the fact that he has been caught and I know about it and the history of how long he has abused woman in this way which is over years.
I cant give too many details but it is worse than just a normal person in the street it is someone that you are suppossed to trust who abused that trust.
I am told it can be done by video at court so wont have to see him but still does not make me feel any better.
I will let you know what happens I have to see the police tomorrow and discuss it and they will press me for me to go ahead I know that, still time to think I guess.
Thanks for your advice
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Vibrance
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:03 pm Post subject: Re: This is a very serious question regarding rape |
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Thanks for your answer on this question, it is a tough decision and I have thought nothing but it over the last couple of days.
The thing is the fact that so many other woman have been affected is making me angry as well as scared if that makes any sense. This person was horrific in what he did and did worse to some others and part of me just wants to get him locked up and have the satisfaction of seeing that as although I thought I was over it the mention of it again to me has got me reeling with anger and all sorts of emotions. I am 50/50 at the moment but he is already ruining my life again just the fact that he has been caught and I know about it and the history of how long he has abused woman in this way which is over years.
I cant give too many details but it is worse than just a normal person in the street it is someone that you are suppossed to trust who abused that trust.
I am told it can be done by video at court so wont have to see him but still does not make me feel any better.
I will let you know what happens I have to see the police tomorrow and discuss it and they will press me for me to go ahead I know that, still time to think I guess.
Thanks for your advice
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there are lot of emotionals that do come flouding back, and they will ahunt you for your life and you will (no matter what path you take) have to fight harder to ensure that you lead as mormal as life as you can...which effectively may mean relearning what you like, what your safe barriers are, future unteractions with other people, meeting new men and trying to not put that onto them and rebuld trust
so many emotions, the hate, revenge and despair/confusion....but through all that remember that something precious was stolen from you - and no can tell you how to reclaim that inner piece of yourself or how to come to peace with it
i may have experienced in this, but my only kindest advice to you is to shut eveyone out and listen to yourself - as you are the one with the power to reclaim justice
and it doesnt have to be through a court......your justice could be just making yourself an even stronger person and using all that hate and anger to turn it into a thing of beauty....as you still are beautiful
there are many methods that you can do in court - find out your options and reflect on them
i chose not to go to court, there were too many and people not exactly from different bloodlines hehe.......but i wasnt ready to go through that as i was trying to sort my head out - and it took a long hard time
but there time is coming i can assure you - and i will be strong for them
so fight wisely |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: This is a very serious question regarding rape |
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| Vibrance wrote: | | unknown to anyone wrote: |
Thanks for your answer on this question, it is a tough decision and I have thought nothing but it over the last couple of days.
The thing is the fact that so many other woman have been affected is making me angry as well as scared if that makes any sense. This person was horrific in what he did and did worse to some others and part of me just wants to get him locked up and have the satisfaction of seeing that as although I thought I was over it the mention of it again to me has got me reeling with anger and all sorts of emotions. I am 50/50 at the moment but he is already ruining my life again just the fact that he has been caught and I know about it and the history of how long he has abused woman in this way which is over years.
I cant give too many details but it is worse than just a normal person in the street it is someone that you are suppossed to trust who abused that trust.
I am told it can be done by video at court so wont have to see him but still does not make me feel any better.
I will let you know what happens I have to see the police tomorrow and discuss it and they will press me for me to go ahead I know that, still time to think I guess.
Thanks for your advice
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there are lot of emotionals that do come flouding back, and they will ahunt you for your life and you will (no matter what path you take) have to fight harder to ensure that you lead as mormal as life as you can...which effectively may mean relearning what you like, what your safe barriers are, future unteractions with other people, meeting new men and trying to not put that onto them and rebuld trust
so many emotions, the hate, revenge and despair/confusion....but through all that remember that something precious was stolen from you - and no can tell you how to reclaim that inner piece of yourself or how to come to peace with it
i may have experienced in this, but my only kindest advice to you is to shut eveyone out and listen to yourself - as you are the one with the power to reclaim justice
and it doesnt have to be through a court......your justice could be just making yourself an even stronger person and using all that hate and anger to turn it into a thing of beauty....as you still are beautiful
there are many methods that you can do in court - find out your options and reflect on them
i chose not to go to court, there were too many and people not exactly from different bloodlines hehe.......but i wasnt ready to go through that as i was trying to sort my head out - and it took a long hard time
but there time is coming i can assure you - and i will be strong for them
so fight wisely |
Thanks Vibrance for your honest advice. My first reaction was I am not doing it and then it changed to yes I will and then back again, I think I will tell the police I need more time and not be pressured into anything as that will make me more stressed.
Thanks again |
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Vibrance
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sounds like an assertive plan of action
just keep listening to your inner self and be kind to yoursefl
i wish you all the best no matter what you do - as you are a very strong lady regardless
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