[kally79]

am very sure this is a scam!!!



I have received many other offers so I don't know what
to choose.
I don't want to make a trip for nothing and not to
find you there and loose time.
I also don't want to loose your time either.
Three weeks ago I have received also many offers to
rent it,
one person told me to come to show him the apartment
and to make the rent papers.
I have took a plane and I arived in London the next
day.
I showed the apartment to that person and he was
impresed but he told me that he has the money for one
month in advance and that I have to wait another two
months to pay me the rest.
I lost my time this way and money on flights.
I also go here in Athens at the hospital twice a week
so I can't stay for a long time in UK.
Here is what I propose:
Make the transfer using western union on a Friend Name
or to a Family Member of yours for the 3 months rent
and reply with the western union scaned receipt jpg
format.
This way I will be sure that you have the money to pay
me in advance and also that will not loose my time and
that I will not make the trip for nothing.
I will support the transfer fees from my pocket when
we will meet or you can deduct them from the rent.
I will expect the scaned receipt and we will arange a
meeting a soon after that.
We will go and see the apartment and after that we
will go to pick up the money from the western union.
(this means that the friend or relative must be with
you at that time)


--- david wrote:

> Hello,i am really interested in renting the
> apartment and paying advance for it,but i need to be
> sure its all authentic and free from any form of
> fraud.i will be happy if you can give me the address
> of the apartment so i can check it out with the
> authorities that its free of any legal
> "headache".you can give me your time when its most
> convenient for you to come down to London.if there
> are no ambiguities i will be very happy to pay for
> it because i love the apartment.am sorry about my
> inquiry because i was a victim of some dodgy
> business hence my fear.have a lovely day.
>
> dialcabP <dialcabp@yahoo.com> wrote: I rent the
> apartment for unlimited time.
> I am in Athens as I have told you.
> The apartment is very beutifull the rent is 350
> GBP/month (this includes all bils)
> If you wish to rent it you will have to pay in
> advance
> for 3 months.
> The key to the apartment is here with me.
> I will come and give you the key and we will make
> the
> contract.
> I will think of a solution for this because I don't
> want to come for nothing and to loose my time or
> yours.
> As I have told you I have received many offers so it
> is hard for me to decide.
> I told you that I lost my hearing and since than I
> have to go to the hospital every week and I will
> have
> little time to spend in UK because of that.
>
> Thank you
>
> Please email me to keep me informed about your free
> time .
> --- david
> wrote:
>
> > hello Alicia,
> > Thank you very much for finding time to respond to
> > my email,i do appreciate.do you live in london?if
> > not, is there any representative that i can meet
> > with to view the apartment.i await your
> response.do
> > have a nice day.
> >
> > dialcabP wrote:
> > Hello,
> > My name is Alicia Brown and I am from Athens,
> > Greece. I have the apartment for rent, the rent is
> > 350£ per month this includes all bils. My husband
> > was
> > British and he wanted the apartment in London.
> Last
> > year we had an accident and my husband lost his
> > life.
> > I also lost my hearing in the car accident that we
> > had. Now I live in Athens, Greece. I have received
> > another offers today about 50 proposals and I want
> > you
> > to know that I only let the apartment if you pay
> in
> > advance the rent for three months. The apartment
> on
> > Montagu Court it is very close to Marble Arch and
> > Edgware Road tube.
> > Thank you
> >
> >
> >

[the_tidy_kiwi]

Hi kally79,

This is most definitely a scam.

Same tired sob story about being out of town, relative in hospital, wasted money on flights last time, heaps of interest, blah blah blah.

The big giveaway is asking for a Western Union transfer, and the offer is two good to be true. An apartment for 350 pounds! No chance.

I will email you for more details on this person so that we can take action!

Please see below for tips on how to stay safe on Gumtree.

[jamiehayward]

Also received this email!

Was quite surprised she went into so much detail for a 1st email - i'd only sent an email about a flat.

Most definitely a scam!!

[vickyn]

i am currently talking t this lady.
i am aware that she is telling me to much and that she cant come over. how does somebody expect to get so much money when they arent willing to show the flat
strange
seems very strange i will try and get more infor but i think action should be taking.
every flat i am interested in is such a scam.. im fed up with it all
i thihnk im just going to live in a cardboard box

[Sanne]

Anyone who wants money in advance before you see the place is a scam

[sauzerice]

this person has been trying to get people to send her money for months be aware of them. I am currently trying to report them to a fraud departement, if anyone has any other info please reply!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*emails sent between me and the so call ALICIA BROWN*

{I have received many other offers so I don't know what
to choose.
I don't want to make a trip for nothing and not to
find you there and loose time.
I also don't want to loose your time either.
Three weeks ago I have received also many offers to
rent it,
one person told me to come to show him the apartment
and to make the rent papers.
I have took a plane and I arived in London the next
day.
I showed the apartment to that person and he was
impresed but he told me that he has the money for one
month in advance and that I have to wait another two
months to pay me the rest.
I lost my time this way and money on flights.
I also go here in Athens at the hospital twice a week
so I can't stay for a long time in UK.
Here is what I propose:
Make the transfer using western union on a Friend Name
or to a Family Member of yours for the 3 months rent
and reply with the western union scaned receipt jpg
format.
This way I will be sure that you have the money to pay
me in advance and also that will not loose my time and
that I will not make the trip for nothing.
I will support the transfer fees from my pocket when
we will meet or you can deduct them from the rent.
I will expect the scaned receipt and we will arange a
meeting a soon after that.
We will go and see the apartment and after that we
will go to pick up the money from the western union.
(this means that the friend or relative must be with
you at that time)


--- Saree Rice <sauzerice@yahoo.com> wrote:

> The fllat sounds amazing and we would be greatfull
> if we could meet up, I understand your circumstances
> and it is easy for us to work around whatever is
> best for you, we currently live in zone 3 but are
> always in central London for school and work. Like I
> mentioned before our lease is not up for at least
> another 2 weeks, I understand that you probably
> would like to rent the flat as soon a possible but
> we would be most greatfull if we could move in when
> our lease is up. anytime your are free and able to
> come over we wouldnt have a problem meeting up.
>
> thank you again
> Saree Rice
>
>
>
> dialcabP <dialcabp@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I rent the apartment for unlimited time.
> I am in Athens as I have told you.
> The apartment is very beutifull the rent is 350
> GBP/month (this includes all bils)
> If you wish to rent it you will have to pay in
> advance
> for 3 months.
> The key to the apartment is here with me.
> I will come and give you the key and we will make
> the
> contract.
> I will think of a solution for this because I don't
> want to come for nothing and to loose my time or
> yours.
> As I have told you I have received many offers so it
> is hard for me to decide.
> I told you that I lost my hearing and since than I
> have to go to the hospital every week and I will
> have
> little time to spend in UK because of that.
>
> Thank you
>
> Please email me to keep me informed about your free
> time .
> --- Saree Rice wrote:
>
> > I am so sorry to hear that I can only hope for the
> > best for you in Athens
> >
> > I am a full time student and work part time for my
> > uni
> > as a computer technician, I also live with another
> > girl who goes to the same uni on Marylebone
> > Highstreet.. I was just recently burgled and I
> feel
> > completely unsafe and unable to live where I am
> now,
> > your flat looks amazing and I don't think it would
> > be
> > a problem to pay three months in advance.. I cant
> > move
> > in for another 2 weeks because of our lease and my
> > housemate is still on holiday.. I am very very
> very
> > interested in the flat i need to move soon and
> > somewhere secure and closer to uni. We are both
> > great
> > tenants and have been living in London for 2
> years,
> > we
> > are very clean and spend most our daily lives at
> > university, we travel as well and are usually only
> > at
> > home to sleep or eat, Im sorry I cant offer
> anymore
> > for rent but we do live on a tight student budget
> > but
> > we also intend on this being our last move for a
> > long
> > time and this flat is a perfect location and near
> > uni.
> > Is it £350 a month for each tenant? please let me
> > know
> > if it available!!!
> >
> > thank you for your time and best of wishes to you
> > Saree Rice


> > --- dialcabP wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > > My name is Alicia Brown and I am from Athens,
> > > Greece. I have the apartment for rent, the rent
> is
> > > 350£ per month this includes all bils. My
> husband
> > > was
> > > British and he wanted the apartment in London.
> > Last
> > > year we had an accident and my husband lost his
> > > life.
> > > I also lost my hearing in the car accident that
> we
> > > had. Now I live in Athens, Greece. I have
> received
> > > another offers today about 50 proposals and I
> want
> > > you
> > > to know that I only let the apartment if you pay
> in
> > > advance the rent for three months. The apartment
> > on
> Montagu Court it is very close to Marble Arch
> and
> > > Edgware Road tube.
Thank you}


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[sauzerice]

this person has been trying to get people to send her money for months be aware of them. I am currently trying to report them to a fraud departement, if anyone has any other info please reply!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*emails sent between me and the so call ALICIA BROWN*

{I have received many other offers so I don't know what
to choose.
I don't want to make a trip for nothing and not to
find you there and loose time.
I also don't want to loose your time either.
Three weeks ago I have received also many offers to
rent it,
one person told me to come to show him the apartment
and to make the rent papers.
I have took a plane and I arived in London the next
day.
I showed the apartment to that person and he was
impresed but he told me that he has the money for one
month in advance and that I have to wait another two
months to pay me the rest.
I lost my time this way and money on flights.
I also go here in Athens at the hospital twice a week
so I can't stay for a long time in UK.
Here is what I propose:
Make the transfer using western union on a Friend Name
or to a Family Member of yours for the 3 months rent
and reply with the western union scaned receipt jpg
format.
This way I will be sure that you have the money to pay
me in advance and also that will not loose my time and
that I will not make the trip for nothing.
I will support the transfer fees from my pocket when
we will meet or you can deduct them from the rent.
I will expect the scaned receipt and we will arange a
meeting a soon after that.
We will go and see the apartment and after that we
will go to pick up the money from the western union.
(this means that the friend or relative must be with
you at that time)


--- Saree Rice <sauzerice@yahoo.com> wrote:

> The fllat sounds amazing and we would be greatfull
> if we could meet up, I understand your circumstances
> and it is easy for us to work around whatever is
> best for you, we currently live in zone 3 but are
> always in central London for school and work. Like I
> mentioned before our lease is not up for at least
> another 2 weeks, I understand that you probably
> would like to rent the flat as soon a possible but
> we would be most greatfull if we could move in when
> our lease is up. anytime your are free and able to
> come over we wouldnt have a problem meeting up.
>
> thank you again
> Saree Rice
>
>
>
> dialcabP <dialcabp@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I rent the apartment for unlimited time.
> I am in Athens as I have told you.
> The apartment is very beutifull the rent is 350
> GBP/month (this includes all bils)
> If you wish to rent it you will have to pay in
> advance
> for 3 months.
> The key to the apartment is here with me.
> I will come and give you the key and we will make
> the
> contract.
> I will think of a solution for this because I don't
> want to come for nothing and to loose my time or
> yours.
> As I have told you I have received many offers so it
> is hard for me to decide.
> I told you that I lost my hearing and since than I
> have to go to the hospital every week and I will
> have
> little time to spend in UK because of that.
>
> Thank you
>
> Please email me to keep me informed about your free
> time .
> --- Saree Rice wrote:
>
> > I am so sorry to hear that I can only hope for the
> > best for you in Athens
> >
> > I am a full time student and work part time for my
> > uni
> > as a computer technician, I also live with another
> > girl who goes to the same uni on Marylebone
> > Highstreet.. I was just recently burgled and I
> feel
> > completely unsafe and unable to live where I am
> now,
> > your flat looks amazing and I don't think it would
> > be
> > a problem to pay three months in advance.. I cant
> > move
> > in for another 2 weeks because of our lease and my
> > housemate is still on holiday.. I am very very
> very
> > interested in the flat i need to move soon and
> > somewhere secure and closer to uni. We are both
> > great
> > tenants and have been living in London for 2
> years,
> > we
> > are very clean and spend most our daily lives at
> > university, we travel as well and are usually only
> > at
> > home to sleep or eat, Im sorry I cant offer
> anymore
> > for rent but we do live on a tight student budget
> > but
> > we also intend on this being our last move for a
> > long
> > time and this flat is a perfect location and near
> > uni.
> > Is it £350 a month for each tenant? please let me
> > know
> > if it available!!!
> >
> > thank you for your time and best of wishes to you
> > Saree Rice


> > --- dialcabP wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > > My name is Alicia Brown and I am from Athens,
> > > Greece. I have the apartment for rent, the rent
> is
> > > 350£ per month this includes all bils. My
> husband
> > > was
> > > British and he wanted the apartment in London.
> > Last
> > > year we had an accident and my husband lost his
> > > life.
> > > I also lost my hearing in the car accident that
> we
> > > had. Now I live in Athens, Greece. I have
> received
> > > another offers today about 50 proposals and I
> want
> > > you
> > > to know that I only let the apartment if you pay
> in
> > > advance the rent for three months. The apartment
> > on
> Montagu Court it is very close to Marble Arch
> and
> > > Edgware Road tube.
Thank you}


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[the_tidy_kiwi]

Thanks for the info. We will take care of this person also.

If you do a Google search of '419 scam' then you can access websites where you can report these guys.

[sussex_th]

I received an email from this lady and I notice that the time zone shown in the email doesn't match Greece's time zone.

For example (The shown date and time, except the time zone, in the example is not the same as the one I got. I changed it in oder to prevent tracking. The purpose is to want you to check if you can detect the same fraud in the email)

Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2007 13:10:11 -0700
From: dialcabp@yahoo.com

The time zone is -7. But Greece should be +2.

So I'm very sure it's a scam.

[QMS]

It's a scam. 100%. As someone else mentioned, this sort of thing is known as a 419 scam. Personally, I can't see how anyone could be so gullible as to fall for it, but then I'm one of the most cynical people I know!

If you have the time and inclination, it's fun to wind these people up. Use false details, and keep assuring them you have sent the money via Western Union. Use a fake tracking number, and when they come back tell them you misread one digit, and off they go again. Keep making excuses to keep them hanging on. Hours of fun!

Lots of this type of thing here: http://www.419eater.com/ or http://www.scambuster419.co.uk/

[goosh]

two words: WESTERN UNION
translates to: THIS IS A SCAM

cheers

[Surrey08]

Regarding the email about a flat between Marble Arch & Edgware Road, it's definitely a scam because had that person known the area, they'd know that 350 a month is highly unlikely in that expensive area!!

[charlee]

Well this little fraudster is still at it! Now going by a different name! They make me so angry This is what i got..........

Hello,
My name is Johanna O'Hagan and I am from Athens, Greece. I have the apartment for rent, the rent is 350£ per month this includes all bils. My husband was British and he wanted the apartment in London. Last year we had an accident and my husband lost his life.
I also lost my hearing in the car accident that we had. Now I live in Athens, Greece. I have received another offers today about 50 proposals and I want you to know that I only let the apartment if you pay in advance the rent for three months. The apartment on Montagu Court it is very close to Marble Arch and Edgware Road tube.
Thank you

[Bluey]

Charlee,

This is a common scam that plagues all internet sites dealing with accommodation with just the contact details, location of property and the excuse for why the landlord can't meet up to show the property in person
changing.

http://forums.gumtree.com/topic53491.html
http://forums.gumtree.com/about66259.html&highlight=athens

Same type of ad has been place in Manhatten

http://blog.myspace.com/discounted_dental_floss

If this property was advertised on the Gumtree, please can you let Gumtree Admin know?

http://www.gumtree.com/cgi-bin/help.pl?f=1&s=

Our stay safe tips are here and include the following advice

- View properties in person. .. People willing to rent a property without seeing ..the prospective tenant first, even if they claim that it is because they are currently overseas, are unlikely to be legitimate.

- Never send or wire money to landlords. This includes never mailing a cheque or using payment services like Bidpay, Western Union or Money Gram ... It is our belief that these forms of funds transfer are favoured by fraudsters.

http://www.gumtree.com/help/stay_safe#item73

[the_tidy_kiwi]